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Abyss First Run Advice

GhostboytjieGhostboytjie Member Posts: 2,733 ★★★★★
Ok to start I did some rank ups etc.
Heres my team
6* r2 Unduped Doom
6* r2 Unduped Torch
5* r5 sig 110 ish Ægon
5* r5 sig 200 Void
5* r5 sig 50 Sparky

So im waiting for 21th when gifting drops then on 22th ill start my run.

Would this stash be ok?
No items in Stash. Only 750 units and 4300 ish units on mini and 600 on other 1.

Does the collector have Unblockable Specials like 5.2.6? And any other general help would be nice. I Dont run MD so thats why im using doom for Cosmics.

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  • SpideyFunkoSpideyFunko Member Posts: 21,973 ★★★★★
    I’m assuming the plan is to gift yourself revives
  • ClynevaClyneva Member Posts: 78 ★★
    I don't think you really need both void and torch on the team. They cover the same fights. Also, which fights are you bringing Sparky for?

    As a general advice, you should make a list of all the fights you'll face on the path, and plan out exactly who you'll be using for each fight. The remaining slots should be filled with synergy champs (e.g. Nick fury+quake, Heimdall, etc), even low level ones.


  • IKONIKON Member Posts: 1,361 ★★★★★
    I would revamp your team.

    Torch and Aegon for sure. Bring another mystic in addition to doom instead of sparky.

    You can bring Void, but the only thing I'd expect you to use him for is HTD heal reversal. I'd probably go Heimdal instead.

    Collector does not have unblockable specials, I'd watch some vids on how to dex the SP2, its not that bad once you get the hang of it.
  • Wicket329Wicket329 Member Posts: 3,779 ★★★★★
    edited December 2020
    Clyneva said:

    I don't think you really need both void and torch on the team. They cover the same fights. Also, which fights are you bringing Sparky for?

    As a general advice, you should make a list of all the fights you'll face on the path, and plan out exactly who you'll be using for each fight. The remaining slots should be filled with synergy champs (e.g. Nick fury+quake, Heimdall, etc), even low level ones.

    With Torch unduped, bringing along void is a safety net in case you slip up and die to Mephisto with his prefight on. Since there’s no way to get it back, Void could end up saving a ton of units. I messed up once against Mephisto with my unduped Torch and I was so glad I brought along my Void as well.

    I have the same question about Sparky. Can’t think of any fights he’d take that Aegon isn’t better for. Maybe bring a synergy champ like Heimdall in that last spot? Aegon, Doom, and Torch/Void will cover everything else.
  • The_Blue_JaguarThe_Blue_Jaguar Member Posts: 256 ★★
    Do you have an awakened 5* Torch? Or even a 4*? I didn’t care for his awakened ability and regretted it—until I came into Abyss. If you don’t take down Mephisto in one shot, you pretty much have to restart your run because he doesn’t have a chance to regain his prefight. It’s up to RNG when he is awakened and it can still be costly, but better than starting all the way over. Although I’m now remembering you were thinking of bringing Void. It would be a long few fights but that is doable. However that would mean you couldn’t bring a Heimdal, who I definitely recommend for the fifth spot. He saves tons of units. I’d also recommend Symbiote Supreme instead of Doom if you’re taking path 1. He just dominates the cosmic fights better than Doom at least on that path. And finally I’d recommend finding a good Invisible Woman counter, maybe BWDO? I didn’t find Nick an easy take down for her at all, but if you have a miss counter and a way to bypass the stun you can get her.
  • Wicket329Wicket329 Member Posts: 3,779 ★★★★★

    And finally I’d recommend finding a good Invisible Woman counter, maybe BWDO? I didn’t find Nick an easy take down for her at all, but if you have a miss counter and a way to bypass the stun you can get her.

    Yeah, people consider Fury to be one of the horsemen for this, but he’s definitely the least useful of them. For the fights that he was recommended for, I found using Aegon just as effective most of the time and the fights went by faster.

    Also this isn’t relevant for your first path but anybody saying Nick Fury is a good Green Goblin counter is extremely wrong, do not listen.
  • IKONIKON Member Posts: 1,361 ★★★★★
    The concern over Torches prefight is overblown.

    I fought dorm with dex off, forgot to turn it back on, and promptly lost HT prefight. Granted it was an R3 unduped Torch, but it cost me a total of 4 revives to down Mephisto.

    Quite frankly, unless you do something silly like I did, Mephisto is so easy with HT that you shouldn't be worried about losing prefight anyway.

    Also, unless Green Goblin has changed since I ran Abyss, NF is a perfectly good counter.
  • SecretWarri0rSecretWarri0r Member Posts: 234
    edited December 2020
    Aegon does fine on IW. I used him on her, changed back to suicides right before her and zerged her down in a few revives. If you really wanted to you could enable resonate mastery and it’ll help, but it’s not really a big deal.

    I used Aegon 5/65s120, Void 5/65s80, SymSupreme 2/35s0, Hit Monkey 5/65s20, Magneto 2/35s0

    Aegon and Sym for the usuals.
    Void can 2 shot Mephisto. He one shots joe fixit and Howard the duck. He’s handy for the last 15% of IMIW. (I one shot with Magneto) I used Hit Monkey on Mordo (assassin’s cunning shut him down) so he wasn’t needed there, and I did the petrify lockout method on cyclops until void died then finished him the parry/dex way with Aegon from about 40%, then like I said, changed back to suicides at IW, and that was it. Nuked her, Nuked Cull until Sym died, finished him with Aegon, then Collector was standard.

    20 stashed revives, 50ish L3 pots, and a bit less than three thousand units. I played like a slob too, and could have done it in way less.

    You can do it. Watch some videos on the fights if you aren’t sure about them. Good luck. It’s not that bad, just an endurance run.

    Looking back, I wish I’d have used magneto to one shot another fight or two.

    Did not regret not bringing heimdall, he doesn’t save as many units as you’d think anyway.
  • Wicket329Wicket329 Member Posts: 3,779 ★★★★★
    IKON said:

    The concern over Torches prefight is overblown.

    I fought dorm with dex off, forgot to turn it back on, and promptly lost HT prefight. Granted it was an R3 unduped Torch, but it cost me a total of 4 revives to down Mephisto.

    Quite frankly, unless you do something silly like I did, Mephisto is so easy with HT that you shouldn't be worried about losing prefight anyway.

    Also, unless Green Goblin has changed since I ran Abyss, NF is a perfectly good counter.

    Sometimes the AI doesn’t cooperate and he sits on his power to an sp3, which is enough to one shot you in abyss. Happened to me in my last path against him, but luckily had Void. Not sure how difficult it would have been with a non-incinerate immune champ.

    I would’ve been much happier bringing in a heavy hitting armor break champ like CMM or Cull for that Green Goblin. I got him down, but it was the most revive-intensive fight on the path
  • GhostboytjieGhostboytjie Member Posts: 2,733 ★★★★★
    The reason I bring sparky is since he can do a ton of damage within the 200 hit cap. He also places taunt on opponent so he should be great against Invisoble womam since I dont got resonate for aegon vs her and void is for the safety net for mephisto also for Mordo and Howard and Joe for some heal reverse aswell
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  • -sixate--sixate- Member Posts: 1,532 ★★★★★
    Torch and Ægon for sure. Sym Sup over Doom if you have him and run MD. Sym is actually better for the easy path. No reason to bring Void or Spark imo. Fury Quake or Heindall plus another synergy champ. IW won't be easy without Fury. You can muscle through her with Ægon, but it sucks.
  • Normax_XNormax_X Member Posts: 689 ★★★★
    i would switch sym supreme over doom for path1 if u run md3 or md4, VTD will be a pain with doom
    paths 1 and 3 sym over doom
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  • Rbk19Rbk19 Member Posts: 195 ★★

    Ok to start I did some rank ups etc.
    Heres my team
    6* r2 Unduped Doom
    6* r2 Unduped Torch
    5* r5 sig 110 ish Ægon
    5* r5 sig 200 Void
    5* r5 sig 50 Sparky

    So im waiting for 21th when gifting drops then on 22th ill start my run.

    Would this stash be ok?
    No items in Stash. Only 750 units and 4300 ish units on mini and 600 on other 1.

    Does the collector have Unblockable Specials like 5.2.6? And any other general help would be nice. I Dont run MD so thats why im using doom for Cosmics.

    Instead on doom if you have symbiote supreme bring him he will be easy match for VTD and other cosmics. Bring void for safety not only for mephisto fight for imiw last 15% he will be very helpful. For invisibility women Nick is best if u don't have bring stealthy or AA
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