6.3.6 CAIW not taking any damage from damage over time debuffs.

BreadyboyBreadyboy Member Posts: 37 ★
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@Kabam Lyra I decided to push 6.3.6 today, And my plan was to nick fury it and hope for the best with the bleeds. As it turns out, caiw takes NOTHING. he doesn't take any of the damage. And, this is not specified by the Crit Me wth your Best shot as it states "The Defender takes 100 % less damage from Hits that are not Critical,". 100% less damage from HITS THAT ARE NOT CRITICAL. not debuffs HITS .
I will post a vid soon
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  • SkyLord7000SkyLord7000 Member Posts: 4,000 ★★★★★
    edited January 2021
    It’s not a critical bleed is it.
  • GamerGamer Member Posts: 10,881 ★★★★★
    Not a bug. U can only deal damage with a crt hit
  • BreadyboyBreadyboy Member Posts: 37 ★
    SkyLord7000 said:

    It’s not a critical bleed is it.

    Nick fury doesn't have critical bleeds.
  • GreanGrean Member Posts: 1,397 ★★★★
    Crit me with ur best shot is the critical hit version of do you bleed
  • TheBair123TheBair123 Member Posts: 5,344 ★★★★★
    Breadyboy said:

    SkyLord7000 said:

    It’s not a critical bleed is it.

    Nick fury doesn't have critical bleeds.
    Then don't use Nick Fury. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the only champs with critical bleeds are Hit-Monkey, Squirrel Girl, and Domino
  • Eb0ny-O-M4wEb0ny-O-M4w Member Posts: 14,013 ★★★★★
    No debuff or passive deal "hits" to the oponent.
    "Hits" refer to attacks
  • YoMovesYoMoves Member Posts: 1,283 ★★★★
    This does beg the question: Would Domino/Squirrel Girl/Horseman Wolvie's critical bleeds count?
  • BreadyboyBreadyboy Member Posts: 37 ★
    YoMoves said:

    This does beg the question: Would Domino/Squirrel Girl/Horseman Wolvie's critical bleeds count?

    Well I read it as "Hits", therefore physical attacks. I would think it wouldnt work.
  • BreadyboyBreadyboy Member Posts: 37 ★
    SkyLord7000 said:

    It’s not a critical bleed is it.

    I get what you're saying, and how it would work if it was a critical bleed but what I m saying, is that it shouldn't matter because 'bleed" is not a hit. The node specifically says "takes 100% less damage from hits that are not critical,".
  • BreadyboyBreadyboy Member Posts: 37 ★
    I just saw a video of a guy using domino against caiw and the critical failure did no damage
    https://youtu.be/FrL-IWqxwDw

    I know critical failure is a passive, but its still critical and it is doing no damage so i would say the same would apply to bleeds
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  • BreadyboyBreadyboy Member Posts: 37 ★
    JoshKosh557 said:

    bruh thats just a name, critical failure has nothing to do with critical hits

    I know that, but people have that damage over time debuffs or passives are not doing damage because they are not critical and I was simply proving them wrong.
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  • GamerGamer Member Posts: 10,881 ★★★★★
    edited January 2021
    Breadyboy said:

    I just saw a video of a guy using domino against caiw and the critical failure did no damage
    https://youtu.be/FrL-IWqxwDw

    I know critical failure is a passive, but its still critical and it is doing no damage so i would say the same would apply to bleeds

    You look like u don’t hav a lot of knowledge of the game so to be Cler that node call Crit me with yours best shot meant hit.
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  • BreadyboyBreadyboy Member Posts: 37 ★
    will-o-wisp said:

    Breadyboy said:

    I just saw a video of a guy using domino against caiw and the critical failure did no damage
    https://youtu.be/FrL-IWqxwDw

    I know critical failure is a passive, but its still critical and it is doing no damage so i would say the same would apply to bleeds

    "Critical failure" can be named "ebony maw punishment". It will change nothing, as it is just a name and not a description of what the ability does
    ok ok, didnt know that.
  • GamerGamer Member Posts: 10,881 ★★★★★
    HI_guys said:

    will-o-wisp said:

    No debuff or passive deal "hits" to the oponent.
    "Hits" refer to attacks

    The node doesn't specify that though. It does not say " only takes damage from crits"
    It do said hit at the end.
  • GamerGamer Member Posts: 10,881 ★★★★★
    HI_guys said:

    will-o-wisp said:

    No debuff or passive deal "hits" to the oponent.
    "Hits" refer to attacks

    The node doesn't specify that though. It does not say " only takes damage from crits"
    Read the node Crit me with your best shot
  • GamerGamer Member Posts: 10,881 ★★★★★
    edited January 2021
    Hmm
  • BreadyboyBreadyboy Member Posts: 37 ★
    edited January 2021
    It says 100% less damage from hit that are not critical.
    This statement and
    Only takes damage from critical hits, arecompletely different statements
    Gamer said:

    HI_guys said:

    will-o-wisp said:

    No debuff or passive deal "hits" to the oponent.
    "Hits" refer to attacks

    Gamer said:

    HI_guys said:

    will-o-wisp said:

    No debuff or passive deal "hits" to the oponent.
    "Hits" refer to attacks

    The node doesn't specify that though. It does not say " only takes damage from crits"
    It do said hit at the end.
  • GamerGamer Member Posts: 10,881 ★★★★★
    Breadyboy said:

    It says 100% less damage from hit that are not critical.
    This statement and
    Only takes damage from critical hits, arecompletely different statements

    Gamer said:

    HI_guys said:

    will-o-wisp said:

    No debuff or passive deal "hits" to the oponent.
    "Hits" refer to attacks

    Gamer said:

    HI_guys said:

    will-o-wisp said:

    No debuff or passive deal "hits" to the oponent.
    "Hits" refer to attacks

    The node doesn't specify that though. It does not say " only takes damage from crits"
    It do said hit at the end.
    Well it shuld say take no damage from non critical to be most. But is is how the node works it need to be a critical hit before deal damage
  • BreadyboyBreadyboy Member Posts: 37 ★
    Gamer said:

    Breadyboy said:

    It says 100% less damage from hit that are not critical.
    This statement and
    Only takes damage from critical hits, arecompletely different statements

    Gamer said:

    HI_guys said:

    will-o-wisp said:

    No debuff or passive deal "hits" to the oponent.
    "Hits" refer to attacks

    Gamer said:

    HI_guys said:

    will-o-wisp said:

    No debuff or passive deal "hits" to the oponent.
    "Hits" refer to attacks

    The node doesn't specify that though. It does not say " only takes damage from crits"
    It do said hit at the end.
    Well it shuld say take no damage from non critical to be most. But is is how the node works it need to be a critical hit before deal damage
    EXACTLY!!! Thats my point, it should say that or the node should be changed or else the description is false and what is the point of a description that only explains half of what the node is.
  • Hammerbro_64Hammerbro_64 Member Posts: 7,463 ★★★★★
    edited January 2021
    I don’t know why this is so hard. Only yellow numbers do things. Red and grey/orange numbers do not.

    Debate all you want about the wording, but this is how it works and has always worked.

    Edit responding to Hi_guys:

    Okay then yeah I agree it could say “this defender can only be damaged by critical hits” although I wonder if with like NF and BPCW+BPOG bleed synergy (since it would increase his bleed damage to over 100%) if that would work.
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  • IvarTheBonelessIvarTheBoneless Member Posts: 1,276 ★★★★
    I can see where he's coming from, the wording could use an update.
  • Thicco_ModeThicco_Mode Member Posts: 8,852 ★★★★★
    basically anything that isn't a critical hit doesn't do damage but i do see what you mean
  • BreadyboyBreadyboy Member Posts: 37 ★
    @Kabam Zibiit please change the wording or something for the next update.
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