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Why Apoc Is the 2nd (Arguably the 1st) Best Mutant
BuffBeast
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Yes, you read that right. Apoc Is at least a top 2 mutant. Forget about Russian tin CAIW, the living magnet and budget doc ock who also happens to be from Russia. We’re talking about the mutant GOD. Why is he a top 2 (at least) mutant? Let’s see
Let’s talk about abilities.
Horsemen Pre-Fight
Apocs claim to fame. You can either choose to ramp him up by taking 3 or 2 fights, or bringing in a Mr. Sinister. With this ability, you can make your top mutants even more powerful, or take not so good mutants like bishop, PL, or DPX and make them playable. They gain:
Bleed immunity
A passive unstoppable once per fight when struck
Go unblockable when the opponent purifies a debuff
30% offensive ability accuracy
And a passive prowess increasing special damage by 50%
Like mentioned before this ability can make mutants like 10000% better than they already are. And that’s not it. With wolverine, psylocke,AA,gambit, and the storms, he gives them even MORE benefits with the horsemen ability through synergies. The most useful of those would probably be gambit, because he take ABSOLUTELY 0 damage on block with 10 kinetic charges. While we’re talking synergies, he has synergies with Kang and Cable that make them go from trash to decent and *sigh* gOd-TiEr. Cable is just phenomenal with this synergy.
Having had been the FASTEST abyss thing killer for about... a day? Can’t quite remember. Sorry. (Shulk FTW)
Back to Apocs abilities.
Every time the opponent evades, they get 10 passive (anti evade?) charges. These CANNOT be affected by AAR. These anti evades persist for the whole quest.
He also reduces purify ability accuracy by 100%. This is some TOP TIER utility, as it counters many annoying skill defenders.
Apocalypse also gains up to four persistent charges.
Whether or not you spend those for charges on giving one of your mutants the horsemen ability or keeping them for apoc is up to you
He gains a passive prowess increasing special damage by 40% per charge.
At 3 charges, he becomes stun immune while striking.
At four charges, he can stun the opponent when hitting their block with a light attack.
Also, at 4 charges, apoc applies BOTH debuffs from his specials, but we’ll get into that later.
Immunities
Apoc can be immune to
Bleed
Incinerate
Disorient
The only catch is, he has to suffer from said debuffs for 8 seconds. They also persist for the entire quest once developed. Now, 8 seconds isn’t too bad, but that’s definitely gonna be some health down the drain.
Debuffs and specials
Apoc can apply Degen, Bleed, Concussion, Poison and Weakness debuffs (all non stacking)
The bleed is applied through a heavy attack
The poison and weakness are applied through sp1
The degen and concussion are both applied through sp2.
( end combo with medium for degen on sp2 or poison from sp1, or end combo with light for concussion on sp2 or weakness from sp1)
Now, the reason you want these debuffs is for his damage. Specifically BURST damage. You have to heavy to refresh these debuffs every once in a while.
Once you get 2-4 debuffs, the fight is pretty straightforward.
Usually I bring MS along with apoc to get him at 4 persistent charges on the first fight. This is because instead of having to throw 2 sp1s and 2 sp2s for all his debuffs, you can get both in one sp1 and sp2 (sorry if that sounds confusing)
Most of the time, I don’t even have to get to a sp3, he finishes most fights in one sp1 and sp2
(again, apologies for the confusion, but bear with me)
Apocalypses’ sp3 makes all his debuffs (except bleed) indefinite, meaning you don’t have to refresh them all the time.
Now, here’s a PRIME reason Apoc is atleast a top 2 mutant.
He gets taller
I mean, seriously, how is that NOT one of the best mechanics in the game?
But seriously, this guy is perfect imo
He’s got an INSANE amount of utility, and his damage plus the burst damage is *chefs kiss* he’s also not a boring parry heavy sp2/sp3 champ. (Looking at you magneto and colossus) yes, I know that they’re both top champs, but it gets really boring to play them after a while. As for buff Russian doc ock, he needs high sig, and the average player isn’t just going to get those stones outta nowhere. Not saying that’s a huge thing, but its just eh. Personally I find apoc to be the most fun mutant in the game. (Along with being a top 2 mutant)
So, thoughts?
Let’s talk about abilities.
Horsemen Pre-Fight
Apocs claim to fame. You can either choose to ramp him up by taking 3 or 2 fights, or bringing in a Mr. Sinister. With this ability, you can make your top mutants even more powerful, or take not so good mutants like bishop, PL, or DPX and make them playable. They gain:
Bleed immunity
A passive unstoppable once per fight when struck
Go unblockable when the opponent purifies a debuff
30% offensive ability accuracy
And a passive prowess increasing special damage by 50%
Like mentioned before this ability can make mutants like 10000% better than they already are. And that’s not it. With wolverine, psylocke,AA,gambit, and the storms, he gives them even MORE benefits with the horsemen ability through synergies. The most useful of those would probably be gambit, because he take ABSOLUTELY 0 damage on block with 10 kinetic charges. While we’re talking synergies, he has synergies with Kang and Cable that make them go from trash to decent and *sigh* gOd-TiEr. Cable is just phenomenal with this synergy.
Having had been the FASTEST abyss thing killer for about... a day? Can’t quite remember. Sorry. (Shulk FTW)
Back to Apocs abilities.
Every time the opponent evades, they get 10 passive (anti evade?) charges. These CANNOT be affected by AAR. These anti evades persist for the whole quest.
He also reduces purify ability accuracy by 100%. This is some TOP TIER utility, as it counters many annoying skill defenders.
Apocalypse also gains up to four persistent charges.
Whether or not you spend those for charges on giving one of your mutants the horsemen ability or keeping them for apoc is up to you
He gains a passive prowess increasing special damage by 40% per charge.
At 3 charges, he becomes stun immune while striking.
At four charges, he can stun the opponent when hitting their block with a light attack.
Also, at 4 charges, apoc applies BOTH debuffs from his specials, but we’ll get into that later.
Immunities
Apoc can be immune to
Bleed
Incinerate
Disorient
The only catch is, he has to suffer from said debuffs for 8 seconds. They also persist for the entire quest once developed. Now, 8 seconds isn’t too bad, but that’s definitely gonna be some health down the drain.
Debuffs and specials
Apoc can apply Degen, Bleed, Concussion, Poison and Weakness debuffs (all non stacking)
The bleed is applied through a heavy attack
The poison and weakness are applied through sp1
The degen and concussion are both applied through sp2.
( end combo with medium for degen on sp2 or poison from sp1, or end combo with light for concussion on sp2 or weakness from sp1)
Now, the reason you want these debuffs is for his damage. Specifically BURST damage. You have to heavy to refresh these debuffs every once in a while.
Once you get 2-4 debuffs, the fight is pretty straightforward.
Usually I bring MS along with apoc to get him at 4 persistent charges on the first fight. This is because instead of having to throw 2 sp1s and 2 sp2s for all his debuffs, you can get both in one sp1 and sp2 (sorry if that sounds confusing)
Most of the time, I don’t even have to get to a sp3, he finishes most fights in one sp1 and sp2
(again, apologies for the confusion, but bear with me)
Apocalypses’ sp3 makes all his debuffs (except bleed) indefinite, meaning you don’t have to refresh them all the time.
Now, here’s a PRIME reason Apoc is atleast a top 2 mutant.
He gets taller
I mean, seriously, how is that NOT one of the best mechanics in the game?
But seriously, this guy is perfect imo
He’s got an INSANE amount of utility, and his damage plus the burst damage is *chefs kiss* he’s also not a boring parry heavy sp2/sp3 champ. (Looking at you magneto and colossus) yes, I know that they’re both top champs, but it gets really boring to play them after a while. As for buff Russian doc ock, he needs high sig, and the average player isn’t just going to get those stones outta nowhere. Not saying that’s a huge thing, but its just eh. Personally I find apoc to be the most fun mutant in the game. (Along with being a top 2 mutant)
So, thoughts?
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The 3 things I love about him
Is the stun through block
70% AAR (bliss to see Juggernauts unstoppable fail)
And revenge for ACT 5.3 now I can give everyone weakness reducing damage by 50% It just nice to have
Not forgetting his tankiness, his Epic synergies and the horseman ability kabam did a good job with him
Now to the Apoc:
I agree with you, Apoc is stupidly strong. He has above average damage even alone. He can get fights done, but he isn't top5 (dmg wise, Domino alone vs Apoc alone, Domino wins. Sorry). HOWEVER, once he gets ramped up and teamed with other mutants (not necessarily full mutant team, 1-2 other mutants suffice), his damage skyrockets up and leaves the said Domino far behind.
His utility is also unique and he is a solution for many things. I like how long his debuffs last, so it is pretty chill to refresh them. The stun into block is sick af. And his everpresent prowess makes him THE BEST counter to the new Cav EQ node (if you disagree, please tell me who is better at that node).
The people who say there are a definite order are strange to me.
The order differs from person to person, but I would say most agree on who belongs on the top 5.
If you bring MS Cable or Kang, (for the 4 charges) he can:
Safely bypass mesmerize without being stunned
He can bypass evade in general, but that’s an example of a pesky node
Once his immunities are built up, he’s safe from the truckload of bleed nodes and champs, the occasional incinerate node or champ (would be cautious if it’s HT)
He can counter the rising number of disorient nodes. The stun immunity is good for encroaching stun, stunning reflection, and even more annoying stun nodes.
That’s just the immunities. And I haven’t really made a ‘proper’ example. Just off the top of my head. But, there’s definitely one champ who’s better, depending on how you look at it. Just trying to back up my point