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Is there a new best 5th champ for the Abyss easy path?

EtjamaEtjama Posts: 7,981 ★★★★★
edited March 2021 in Strategy and Tips
We all know that there are 4 mainstream champs for the Abyss easy path. Ægon, Human Torch, Symbiote Supreme, Nick Fury. That leaves 1 more space. Who belongs there?

See, Heimdall has been the go-to in that 5th slot for the longest time, but we've now seen what Prof X, Mags, and CGR can do in Abyss. Does Heimdall really still save the most units? Prof X, Mags, and CGR can all solo fights on the easy path that aren't otherwise soloable with your other champs which I feel should save more revives than being able to survive a little longer in each fight if you slip up.

And then there's White Mags who may seem like an odd one, but he could save several revives on the Abyss Collector with his pre-fight allowing you to properly parry.

So what do you think? Really interested to know.

Is there a new best 5th champ for the Abyss easy path? 57 votes

Heimdall
31%
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Magneto
24%
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CGR
17%
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White Mags
5%
CazTheKillerSpork_Sham_ 3 votes
Professor X
21%
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    AdokAdok Posts: 274 ★★
    Doom??? lol
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    TheBair123TheBair123 Posts: 5,344 ★★★★★
    Professor X
    I mean I am nowhere near being an Abyss expert, but I've seen crazy things from Prof X
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    magnus_xixmagnus_xix Posts: 2,020 ★★★★★
    If we're talking about the easy path the best team is Stryfe, Apoc, Red Mags, Prof X and Sym Supreme. Pretty much every fight can be soloed or very close to it by someone.
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    magnus_xixmagnus_xix Posts: 2,020 ★★★★★
    edited March 2021
    magnus_xix said:

    If we're talking about the easy path the best team is Stryfe, Apoc, Red Mags, Prof X and Sym Supreme. Pretty much every fight can be soloed or very close to it by someone.

    Just looked at the easy path and noticed Prof X is not necessary for any of the fights so sub him out for White mags.
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    EtjamaEtjama Posts: 7,981 ★★★★★
    The_Blue_Jaguar said:

    I took Mags instead of Heimdal for my initial run and regretted it. Also, Fury isn’t that good against IW. I ended up using Ægon against her.

    Fury not good against IW? He's literally the best option, he can one-shot that fight.
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    Six_strings6Six_strings6 Posts: 223 ★★
    Etjama said:

    magnus_xix said:

    If we're talking about the easy path the best team is Stryfe, Apoc, Red Mags, Prof X and Sym Supreme. Pretty much every fight can be soloed or very close to it by someone.

    Yeah, no. The whole Stryfe in Abyss thing was hyped way too hard. Don't let the videos with a R3 fully boosted Stryfe with a full synergy team and the White Mags pre-fight against the Collector fool you, he'd be hell against him compared to Ægon.
    I was always under the impression that there are other champs that may be better at clearing fights than aegon but he is far and away the best collector option that the few extra revives on the path makes up for it
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    VendemiaireVendemiaire Posts: 2,178 ★★★★★
    Professor X
    I'm going with Aegon, Torch, Doom, Prof. X, White Mags on my first run. Can't pull NF and no SymbSup. Lol.
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    EtjamaEtjama Posts: 7,981 ★★★★★
    Vendemiaire said:

    I'm going with Aegon, Torch, Doom, Prof. X, White Mags on my first run. Can't pull NF and no SymbSup. Lol.

    Seems pretty solid tbh. I was actually wondering about replacing Nick as well. Apparently an HT solo on IW is possible, though the attack increase with Nick is another thing to keep in mind.
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    Agent_X_zzzAgent_X_zzz Posts: 4,494 ★★★★★
    magnus_xix said:

    If we're talking about the easy path the best team is Stryfe, Apoc, Red Mags, Prof X and Sym Supreme. Pretty much every fight can be soloed or very close to it by someone.

    Lol good one
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    The_Blue_JaguarThe_Blue_Jaguar Posts: 249 ★★
    Etjama said:

    The_Blue_Jaguar said:

    I took Mags instead of Heimdal for my initial run and regretted it. Also, Fury isn’t that good against IW. I ended up using Ægon against her.

    Fury not good against IW? He's literally the best option, he can one-shot that fight.
    Don’t know what to tell you, I speak from experience. It was super hard to keep her shield down because it was so hard to get it down in the first place with Nick. Ægon made quick work of her, and was way better in my case.
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    magnus_xixmagnus_xix Posts: 2,020 ★★★★★
    Masterpuff said:

    magnus_xix said:

    If we're talking about the easy path the best team is Stryfe, Apoc, Red Mags, Prof X and Sym Supreme. Pretty much every fight can be soloed or very close to it by someone.

    LOL

    Have fun on the collector. Enjoy Mephisto. Aegon is way better.

    Take this L
    Guess you didn't know Apoc becomes immune to Mephisto's aura
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    EtjamaEtjama Posts: 7,981 ★★★★★
    The_Blue_Jaguar said:

    Etjama said:

    The_Blue_Jaguar said:

    I took Mags instead of Heimdal for my initial run and regretted it. Also, Fury isn’t that good against IW. I ended up using Ægon against her.

    Fury not good against IW? He's literally the best option, he can one-shot that fight.
    Don’t know what to tell you, I speak from experience. It was super hard to keep her shield down because it was so hard to get it down in the first place with Nick. Ægon made quick work of her, and was way better in my case.
    Well I'm speaking from experience too and it's still a 2-shot even with just 1 point in DW. Easily soloable with max DW.
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    Agent_X_zzzAgent_X_zzz Posts: 4,494 ★★★★★
    The_Blue_Jaguar said:

    Etjama said:

    The_Blue_Jaguar said:

    I took Mags instead of Heimdal for my initial run and regretted it. Also, Fury isn’t that good against IW. I ended up using Ægon against her.

    Fury not good against IW? He's literally the best option, he can one-shot that fight.
    Don’t know what to tell you, I speak from experience. It was super hard to keep her shield down because it was so hard to get it down in the first place with Nick. Ægon made quick work of her, and was way better in my case.
    Disagree it was very simple for me, here is 1 revive with a 5/65 and only 1 pt in DW.
    https://youtu.be/CjkGvsFpePY
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    EtjamaEtjama Posts: 7,981 ★★★★★
    edited March 2021
    magnus_xix said:

    Masterpuff said:

    magnus_xix said:

    If we're talking about the easy path the best team is Stryfe, Apoc, Red Mags, Prof X and Sym Supreme. Pretty much every fight can be soloed or very close to it by someone.

    LOL

    Have fun on the collector. Enjoy Mephisto. Aegon is way better.

    Take this L
    Guess you didn't know Apoc becomes immune to Mephisto's aura
    Guess you didn't know he'd have to tank the incinerate debuff from a Sp1 to do that and the fight would still be absolute hell. And the Collector would still be god awful. Go do Abyss with that team and we can all laugh about it taking 8k units.
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    MasterpuffMasterpuff Posts: 6,466 ★★★★★
    Professor X
    magnus_xix said:

    Masterpuff said:

    magnus_xix said:

    If we're talking about the easy path the best team is Stryfe, Apoc, Red Mags, Prof X and Sym Supreme. Pretty much every fight can be soloed or very close to it by someone.

    LOL

    Have fun on the collector. Enjoy Mephisto. Aegon is way better.

    Take this L
    Guess you didn't know Apoc becomes immune to Mephisto's aura
    Fully aware. Apoc doesnt have as much damage(or even close) to Torch. So having that powergain is gonna be super fun.

    Question:
    Have you really done completion with that team?
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    magnus_xixmagnus_xix Posts: 2,020 ★★★★★
    Etjama said:

    magnus_xix said:

    Masterpuff said:

    magnus_xix said:

    If we're talking about the easy path the best team is Stryfe, Apoc, Red Mags, Prof X and Sym Supreme. Pretty much every fight can be soloed or very close to it by someone.

    LOL

    Have fun on the collector. Enjoy Mephisto. Aegon is way better.

    Take this L
    Guess you didn't know Apoc becomes immune to Mephisto's aura
    Guess you didn't know he'd have to rank the I cinerate debuff from a Sp1 to do that and the fight would still be absolute hell. And the Collector would still be god awful. Go do Abyss with that team and we can all laugh about it taking 8k units.
    Except you don't. Stand in his aura for 8 seconds you're immune. He'll place fate seal debuffs the entire fight so you can heal back whatever you lost
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    VendemiaireVendemiaire Posts: 2,178 ★★★★★
    edited March 2021
    Professor X
    Etjama said:

    Vendemiaire said:

    I'm going with Aegon, Torch, Doom, Prof. X, White Mags on my first run. Can't pull NF and no SymbSup. Lol.

    Seems pretty solid tbh. I was actually wondering about replacing Nick as well. Apparently an HT solo on IW is possible, though the attack increase with Nick is another thing to keep in mind.
    Yea, Munash did a solo on IMIW with HT but the +20% damage from Nick is what's making me think otherwise but I just can't seem to pull him as a 5/6*.

    Adding White Mags will not only help against Abyss Collector with his pre-fight but it will also make Professor X much more manageable with +30% prowess duration if I'll use him against Invisible Woman. If there's a 6th slot, Apoc will be perfect for the horseman pre-fight and additional prowess potency but that's asking too much. Lol.
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    MasterpuffMasterpuff Posts: 6,466 ★★★★★
    Professor X
    magnus_xix said:

    Etjama said:

    magnus_xix said:

    Masterpuff said:

    magnus_xix said:

    If we're talking about the easy path the best team is Stryfe, Apoc, Red Mags, Prof X and Sym Supreme. Pretty much every fight can be soloed or very close to it by someone.

    LOL

    Have fun on the collector. Enjoy Mephisto. Aegon is way better.

    Take this L
    Guess you didn't know Apoc becomes immune to Mephisto's aura
    Guess you didn't know he'd have to rank the I cinerate debuff from a Sp1 to do that and the fight would still be absolute hell. And the Collector would still be god awful. Go do Abyss with that team and we can all laugh about it taking 8k units.
    Except you don't. Stand in his aura for 8 seconds you're immune. He'll place fate seal debuffs the entire fight so you can heal back whatever you lost
    Can confirm this actually works. Until you get sp3ed.
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    EtjamaEtjama Posts: 7,981 ★★★★★
    magnus_xix said:

    Etjama said:

    magnus_xix said:

    Masterpuff said:

    magnus_xix said:

    If we're talking about the easy path the best team is Stryfe, Apoc, Red Mags, Prof X and Sym Supreme. Pretty much every fight can be soloed or very close to it by someone.

    LOL

    Have fun on the collector. Enjoy Mephisto. Aegon is way better.

    Take this L
    Guess you didn't know Apoc becomes immune to Mephisto's aura
    Guess you didn't know he'd have to rank the I cinerate debuff from a Sp1 to do that and the fight would still be absolute hell. And the Collector would still be god awful. Go do Abyss with that team and we can all laugh about it taking 8k units.
    Except you don't. Stand in his aura for 8 seconds you're immune. He'll place fate seal debuffs the entire fight so you can heal back whatever you lost
    The fight would still be hell with all the power gain. It would take tons of revives. And you're still ignoring the fact that the Collector would be awful.
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    magnus_xixmagnus_xix Posts: 2,020 ★★★★★
    edited March 2021
    Masterpuff said:

    magnus_xix said:

    Etjama said:

    magnus_xix said:

    Masterpuff said:

    magnus_xix said:

    If we're talking about the easy path the best team is Stryfe, Apoc, Red Mags, Prof X and Sym Supreme. Pretty much every fight can be soloed or very close to it by someone.

    LOL

    Have fun on the collector. Enjoy Mephisto. Aegon is way better.

    Take this L
    Guess you didn't know Apoc becomes immune to Mephisto's aura
    Guess you didn't know he'd have to rank the I cinerate debuff from a Sp1 to do that and the fight would still be absolute hell. And the Collector would still be god awful. Go do Abyss with that team and we can all laugh about it taking 8k units.
    Except you don't. Stand in his aura for 8 seconds you're immune. He'll place fate seal debuffs the entire fight so you can heal back whatever you lost
    Can confirm this actually works. Until you get sp3ed.
    He has a less than 20% chance to activate his aura. Do heavy attacks and sp1s to maximize the damage per hit. Keep his power low by baiting his special 1.

    Besides with HT you want to 3 combos constantly and the power gain is no problem for him
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    magnus_xixmagnus_xix Posts: 2,020 ★★★★★
    Etjama said:

    magnus_xix said:

    Etjama said:

    magnus_xix said:

    Masterpuff said:

    magnus_xix said:

    If we're talking about the easy path the best team is Stryfe, Apoc, Red Mags, Prof X and Sym Supreme. Pretty much every fight can be soloed or very close to it by someone.

    LOL

    Have fun on the collector. Enjoy Mephisto. Aegon is way better.

    Take this L
    Guess you didn't know Apoc becomes immune to Mephisto's aura
    Guess you didn't know he'd have to rank the I cinerate debuff from a Sp1 to do that and the fight would still be absolute hell. And the Collector would still be god awful. Go do Abyss with that team and we can all laugh about it taking 8k units.
    Except you don't. Stand in his aura for 8 seconds you're immune. He'll place fate seal debuffs the entire fight so you can heal back whatever you lost
    The fight would still be hell with all the power gain. It would take tons of revives. And you're still ignoring the fact that the Collector would be awful.
    magnus_xix said:

    magnus_xix said:

    If we're talking about the easy path the best team is Stryfe, Apoc, Red Mags, Prof X and Sym Supreme. Pretty much every fight can be soloed or very close to it by someone.

    Just looked at the easy path and noticed Prof X is not necessary for any of the fights so sub him out for White mags.
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    EtjamaEtjama Posts: 7,981 ★★★★★
    magnus_xix said:

    Etjama said:

    magnus_xix said:

    Etjama said:

    magnus_xix said:

    Masterpuff said:

    magnus_xix said:

    If we're talking about the easy path the best team is Stryfe, Apoc, Red Mags, Prof X and Sym Supreme. Pretty much every fight can be soloed or very close to it by someone.

    LOL

    Have fun on the collector. Enjoy Mephisto. Aegon is way better.

    Take this L
    Guess you didn't know Apoc becomes immune to Mephisto's aura
    Guess you didn't know he'd have to rank the I cinerate debuff from a Sp1 to do that and the fight would still be absolute hell. And the Collector would still be god awful. Go do Abyss with that team and we can all laugh about it taking 8k units.
    Except you don't. Stand in his aura for 8 seconds you're immune. He'll place fate seal debuffs the entire fight so you can heal back whatever you lost
    The fight would still be hell with all the power gain. It would take tons of revives. And you're still ignoring the fact that the Collector would be awful.
    magnus_xix said:

    magnus_xix said:

    If we're talking about the easy path the best team is Stryfe, Apoc, Red Mags, Prof X and Sym Supreme. Pretty much every fight can be soloed or very close to it by someone.

    Just looked at the easy path and noticed Prof X is not necessary for any of the fights so sub him out for White mags.
    No. He would still be way worse in that fight than Ægon. Everyone else in this thread knows that team wouldn't be nearly as good as the normal Abyss team. If you need to go and spend 8k units with your suggested team in order to see that, do it and come back.
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    Agent_X_zzzAgent_X_zzz Posts: 4,494 ★★★★★
    _Sham_ said:

    Agent_X_zzz said:

    The_Blue_Jaguar said:

    Etjama said:

    The_Blue_Jaguar said:

    I took Mags instead of Heimdal for my initial run and regretted it. Also, Fury isn’t that good against IW. I ended up using Ægon against her.

    Fury not good against IW? He's literally the best option, he can one-shot that fight.
    Don’t know what to tell you, I speak from experience. It was super hard to keep her shield down because it was so hard to get it down in the first place with Nick. Ægon made quick work of her, and was way better in my case.
    Disagree it was very simple for me, here is 1 revive with a 5/65 and only 1 pt in DW.
    https://youtu.be/CjkGvsFpePY
    I am newbie in NF got him recently, tell my why his charges are not expiring ?

    Thanks
    While nick fury has a fury active, his tactical charges become permanent until that fury expires. In this case with his sig it is permanent.
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