Max dupe antman is a beast of a tank. Just going to toss that into the air. He's very good defensively.
I'll obviously agree with colossus as most will. He's just outdated and armor buffs as a whole since 12.0 are next to useless seeing as how buff stacks don't actually stack evenly but calculate together which lowers the overall effectiveness.
No one in tier 1-2 AW is using ant man for that glance lol Rhino far outweighs him because he actually had some form of offensive capability. A rag doll does not count as a defensive tank because tanks can actually shoot BACK.
I disagree. On certain Nodes I find a R4 Ant to be much more difficult than a R4 Rhino. That being said, I would choose to rank up neither.
You don't understand how good a duped antman is defensively, specially if he's placed on a thorns node. I do agree that colossus is garbage and needs an improvement
I do understand. I have him lol. And please dude no one in tier 1-2 AWis using ant man for thorns.
I'm pretty sure very few people in tier 1 and 2 are using Cyclops, Iron Patriot, or Hulkbuster for very much either. At the highest tiers of gameplay, there are very few champions that are considered top tier. Everything else is not. Saying tier 1 players aren't using a champion is saying almost nothing significant about that champion. That's a true statement for almost all champions.
And even if you buffed Colossus and Ant-Man to make them better than average, tier 1 and tier 2 players still won't use them, because tier 1 and tier 2 players don't use champions that are just better than average. Any buff on those champions would be meaningless to those players. Buffs would only be meaningful to the very players that would currently see both as being useful in the first place (as one of the few bleed immune 5* champs they would likely possess and a reasonably good defensive champion respectively).
I agree with this but just to wanted add a point of clarification. Cyclops is being used less and less but still shows up in nearly every T1 war. I don't IP, HB, Col ever. Sometimes people place Ant-Man in war and he is definitely a major inconvenience but doesn't seem to really get any kills.
The damage dealt by antmans poison does need increasing its barely taking any health when you have several stacks, when compared to the likes of doctor voodoo's poison it is a bit of a laughable joke. On Colossus I kind of like him as he is I don't think he's as bad as PPL make out he'd be better with some type of offensive buff but still a usable champ.
I have issues with why ultron an vision suffer the effects of iceman's cold snap? There robots they don't get hypothermia an they don't have blood to freeze they should be immune.
Antman was never buffed after the huge v12 update as promised just like abomination. They'd be much better if they actually buffed them like they were supposed to.
You can still freeze robots. Frozen joints don't move so well, you know there has to be moisture in the circuitry and articulated joints.
Dude ultron an vision aren't your typical robots there able to perform in outer space -454f iceman cant freeze that well an if he could he'd kill all human players in seconds . Ultron an vision should be immune an arguably red Hulk an ghost rider 2
Fighting in space (a super cold vacuum) is not the same as freezing on Earth. The moisture in the air on Earth would still allow robots to be frozen.
Red hulk is a different story, I think I would agree on that one as he creates heat and could counter the cold. GR I'm not sure on, not sure his "fire" is actual fire as people don't seem to be uncomfortable around his bonfire face ever
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I disagree. On certain Nodes I find a R4 Ant to be much more difficult than a R4 Rhino. That being said, I would choose to rank up neither.
I agree with this but just to wanted add a point of clarification. Cyclops is being used less and less but still shows up in nearly every T1 war. I don't IP, HB, Col ever. Sometimes people place Ant-Man in war and he is definitely a major inconvenience but doesn't seem to really get any kills.
I have issues with why ultron an vision suffer the effects of iceman's cold snap? There robots they don't get hypothermia an they don't have blood to freeze they should be immune.
Dude ultron an vision aren't your typical robots there able to perform in outer space -454f iceman cant freeze that well an if he could he'd kill all human players in seconds . Ultron an vision should be immune an arguably red Hulk an ghost rider 2
Red hulk is a different story, I think I would agree on that one as he creates heat and could counter the cold. GR I'm not sure on, not sure his "fire" is actual fire as people don't seem to be uncomfortable around his bonfire face ever