I don’t understand hoarding champion crystals. Just open them smh
Collection purposes. I personally have one "rare" crystal that I got from some giveaway, and never opened till now. Don't really need anything out of it
I don’t see crystals as a collection. They are meant to be opened. Speaking just of champion crystals. Even if it’s a lame 2*, there is no reason to hoard it. I pop 5* crystals but I don’t need anything out of them. So should I just hoard unopened 5* basic/feature crystals? Lmao
U are wrong, I got 2k iso items. (sold 200 pcs just yesterday because it was expiring) 400 phc and maybe 30 4star champions, All my 2s and 3s are maxed and 4s are minimum r2 with half of them being R3.. All 5s and 6s are lvled up
So open them for what? For more iso to sell to stack on the 28m gold I already have? The iso comes from everywhere in the game aside of phc or 3s or 4s crystals that I don't open. Only if I run out of iso of a certain class. And no I don't buy cavs,in the last 2 months I opened just one
Since people Always Ask/Assume, Kabam Really should specify that Crystals like Catalyst/AQ Crystals or the Free 4 Hour Crystals for example aren't affected by this...
When they say Old Crystals they mean Purchased Special Crystals (Such as Champion Specific Featureds), Special Shard Crystals (such as the Old Featureds and from Special Events like last month's Shatter Heart Shard Crystals) or Event Crystals (such as Special Legendary Crystals that have a Certain Themed Set of Champions).
So what EXACTLY does this mean? Are those the 4 hour and daily crystals? Or is it something else?
Like I said before it's the calendar champ crystal
It is most likely the crystal that we get on day 25 of each calendar. The other crystals are are daily and 4 hour crystals and if those was a problem then they would a lot of them to open. I highly doubt that it is the daily or the 4 hours crystals though.
I don’t understand hoarding champion crystals. Just open them smh
Collection purposes. I personally have one "rare" crystal that I got from some giveaway, and never opened till now. Don't really need anything out of it
I don’t see crystals as a collection. They are meant to be opened. Speaking just of champion crystals. Even if it’s a lame 2*, there is no reason to hoard it. I pop 5* crystals but I don’t need anything out of them. So should I just hoard unopened 5* basic/feature crystals? Lmao
U are wrong, I got 2k iso items. (sold 200 pcs just yesterday because it was expiring) 400 phc and maybe 30 4star champions, All my 2s and 3s are maxed and 4s are minimum r2 with half of them being R3.. All 5s and 6s are lvled up
So open them for what? For more iso to sell to stack on the 28m gold I already have? The iso comes from everywhere in the game aside of phc or 3s or 4s crystals that I don't open. Only if I run out of iso of a certain class. And no I don't buy cavs,in the last 2 months I opened just one
I don’t understand hoarding champion crystals. Just open them smh
Collection purposes. I personally have one "rare" crystal that I got from some giveaway, and never opened till now. Don't really need anything out of it
I don’t see crystals as a collection. They are meant to be opened. Speaking just of champion crystals. Even if it’s a lame 2*, there is no reason to hoard it. I pop 5* crystals but I don’t need anything out of them. So should I just hoard unopened 5* basic/feature crystals? Lmao
U are wrong, I got 2k iso items. (sold 200 pcs just yesterday because it was expiring) 400 phc and maybe 30 4star champions, All my 2s and 3s are maxed and 4s are minimum r2 with half of them being R3.. All 5s and 6s are lvled up
So open them for what? For more iso to sell to stack on the 28m gold I already have? The iso comes from everywhere in the game aside of phc or 3s or 4s crystals that I don't open. Only if I run out of iso of a certain class. And no I don't buy cavs,in the last 2 months I opened just one
how do you expire Premium crystal shards?
Pcs I typed. Not Phc.. Pcs I meant pieces. I should of typed the full word
I don’t understand hoarding champion crystals. Just open them smh
Collection purposes. I personally have one "rare" crystal that I got from some giveaway, and never opened till now. Don't really need anything out of it
I don’t see crystals as a collection. They are meant to be opened. Speaking just of champion crystals. Even if it’s a lame 2*, there is no reason to hoard it. I pop 5* crystals but I don’t need anything out of them. So should I just hoard unopened 5* basic/feature crystals? Lmao
U are wrong, I got 2k iso items. (sold 200 pcs just yesterday because it was expiring) 400 phc and maybe 30 4star champions, All my 2s and 3s are maxed and 4s are minimum r2 with half of them being R3.. All 5s and 6s are lvled up
So open them for what? For more iso to sell to stack on the 28m gold I already have? The iso comes from everywhere in the game aside of phc or 3s or 4s crystals that I don't open. Only if I run out of iso of a certain class. And no I don't buy cavs,in the last 2 months I opened just one
how do you expire Premium crystal shards?
Pcs I typed. Not Phc.. Pcs I meant pieces. I should of typed the full word
yes please, because not everyone know every single shortcut words
this post has basically derailed. I was making this post too see if some moderator could explain more how these old crystal affect the server stability issue doing a huge impact and what we can do to help mitigate it in future.
this post has basically derailed. I was making this post too see if some moderator could explain more how these old crystal affect the server stability issue doing a huge impact and what we can do to help mitigate it in future.
Each crystal has a table associated with it and that table is located on the server which takes up space and time to load it. Less tables less space and time. Players can’t do anything about that.
this post has basically derailed. I was making this post too see if some moderator could explain more how these old crystal affect the server stability issue doing a huge impact and what we can do to help mitigate it in future.
Each crystal has a table associated with it and that table is located on the server which takes up space and time to load it. Less tables less space and time. Players can’t do anything about that.
You mentioned time. It made me confused as I’m not sure what time you meant?
I don’t understand hoarding champion crystals. Just open them smh
For when you need iso.
Always using iso, that’s a poor excuse to hoard a crystal.
Actually, there's two reasons why I might hold onto a champion crystal. ISO is one, and saving points for events is another. I always open high value champion crystals of course, but PHCs and 4* and lower I only open when I need something from them, otherwise I save them for a rainy day. And while that rainy day almost never comes, you just never know.
At the moment I have 1606 PHCs. Opening them for ISO would be completely worthless, as I currently have 2066 ISO in overflow. Opening them for gold would be even more silly, as I have a ludicrous amount of gold at the moment. Opening them to score points in events would be worth it, but I generally do that opening shard-formed crystals.
Things change: no matter how efficient I am at managing resources, you never know what will happen in the future and saving resources I cannot make use of today for the future is for me completely logical.
this post has basically derailed. I was making this post too see if some moderator could explain more how these old crystal affect the server stability issue doing a huge impact and what we can do to help mitigate it in future.
Each crystal has a table associated with it and that table is located on the server which takes up space and time to load it. Less tables less space and time. Players can’t do anything about that.
You mentioned time. It made me confused as I’m not sure what time you meant?
I don't think loading time specifically is the issue, but in general the larger a database is, the longer it takes to look up and reference any data in it. This might be a tiny fraction of a second for the crystal databases, but multiplied by the thousands or millions of lookups that occur constantly whenever crystals are awarded or opened and it adds up.
While they're at it, it'd be good if they figured out a way to de-itemize stuff like ISO and Catalysts. There'd be problems with overflow management, but it's probably worth a look-at.
I've never thought about it but making a Filing System for Iso-8 would be Much More Orderly and Time Saving...
For example, you go to Level Up a Champion and you see:
Whatever Class the Champion is that you're attempting to Rank Up would Glow as an Indication that you gain more Value out of using that type, you then click whatever Class you want:
First Number= Whatever Amount of that Iso-8 Type you have on hand. Second Number= The Inventory of Iso-8 you could Hold at One Time before it goes into Overflow.
Once you select the Tier a Scale similar to the one used for the Signature Stone Interface will appear and let you quickly scroll up to the amount of Iso-8 Required, it'll warn you when you have reached the Iso-8 Required for the Final Level at which point you can just hit Accept or go back One or Whatever Amount of Iso-8 Chunks and use a Lesser Tier to Finish the Final Level Up.
You could also Automate the Overflow System where Everytime you use an Iso Chunk that was Maxed and had some in Overflow, it would automatically fill that Free Space with the Soonest Expiring Iso-8 Chunk, then if you had any Expiring in 7 Days an Exclamation Mark would appear next to the Tab of it's corresponding Class then Tier which when clicked displays that Info and Timer.
I guess it could be slightly more Complicated for Newer Players but it wouldn't be hard to Learn and would make the Management of Iso-8 Much Smoother, could still have the Auto Select Button for Quicker Level Ups.
I don’t understand hoarding champion crystals. Just open them smh
For when you need iso.
Always using iso, that’s a poor excuse to hoard a crystal.
Actually, there's two reasons why I might hold onto a champion crystal. ISO is one, and saving points for events is another. I always open high value champion crystals of course, but PHCs and 4* and lower I only open when I need something from them, otherwise I save them for a rainy day. And while that rainy day almost never comes, you just never know.
At the moment I have 1606 PHCs. Opening them for ISO would be completely worthless, as I currently have 2066 ISO in overflow. Opening them for gold would be even more silly, as I have a ludicrous amount of gold at the moment. Opening them to score points in events would be worth it, but I generally do that opening shard-formed crystals.
Things change: no matter how efficient I am at managing resources, you never know what will happen in the future and saving resources I cannot make use of today for the future is for me completely logical.
No, you put yourself into a bad situation with that many hoarded crystals. Because now opening 2,000 phc crystals would be too excessive. You need to figure out how to get out of it.
My roster is just as big and just as developed as most. I pop every champion crystal, I sell iso daily, I have 30+ r5 max sig 5*, 80 6* plus tons of r3/2 of those. 3* and 4* haven’t been ranked up in years unless there have been nothing left to rank up on level up solo goal days.
People put themselves deep into a situation, that doesn’t justify not opening the crystals.
Let me help everyone that is hoarding champion crystals... open them. Don’t worry about the rest of the problems just open them. Open 10 a day till they are all gone. It doesn’t matter. You are already selling iso, so that is not a good excuse.
I don’t understand hoarding champion crystals. Just open them smh
For when you need iso.
Always using iso, that’s a poor excuse to hoard a crystal.
Actually, there's two reasons why I might hold onto a champion crystal. ISO is one, and saving points for events is another. I always open high value champion crystals of course, but PHCs and 4* and lower I only open when I need something from them, otherwise I save them for a rainy day. And while that rainy day almost never comes, you just never know.
At the moment I have 1606 PHCs. Opening them for ISO would be completely worthless, as I currently have 2066 ISO in overflow. Opening them for gold would be even more silly, as I have a ludicrous amount of gold at the moment. Opening them to score points in events would be worth it, but I generally do that opening shard-formed crystals.
Things change: no matter how efficient I am at managing resources, you never know what will happen in the future and saving resources I cannot make use of today for the future is for me completely logical.
Let me help everyone that is hoarding champion crystals... open them. Don’t worry about the rest of the problems just open them. Open 10 a day till they are all gone. It doesn’t matter. You are already selling iso, so that is not a good excuse.
I much rather keep and collect the crystals than opening and get nothing of value out of it. This is the same for almost all hoarders around here. If you prefer to open all of your crystals, then that's your decision. If you feel you're getting something out of it then do it. I personally not feel satisfied to open a "rare" or an expired 2-star crystal that will award me 55x 3-star shards, so I just keep it for collection
I don’t understand hoarding champion crystals. Just open them smh
For when you need iso.
Always using iso, that’s a poor excuse to hoard a crystal.
Actually, there's two reasons why I might hold onto a champion crystal. ISO is one, and saving points for events is another. I always open high value champion crystals of course, but PHCs and 4* and lower I only open when I need something from them, otherwise I save them for a rainy day. And while that rainy day almost never comes, you just never know.
At the moment I have 1606 PHCs. Opening them for ISO would be completely worthless, as I currently have 2066 ISO in overflow. Opening them for gold would be even more silly, as I have a ludicrous amount of gold at the moment. Opening them to score points in events would be worth it, but I generally do that opening shard-formed crystals.
Things change: no matter how efficient I am at managing resources, you never know what will happen in the future and saving resources I cannot make use of today for the future is for me completely logical.
Let me help everyone that is hoarding champion crystals... open them. Don’t worry about the rest of the problems just open them. Open 10 a day till they are all gone. It doesn’t matter. You are already selling iso, so that is not a good excuse.
I much rather keep and collect the crystals than opening and get nothing of value out of it. This is the same for almost all hoarders around here. If you prefer to open all of your crystals, then that's your decision. If you feel you're getting something out of it then do it. I personally not feel satisfied to open a "rare" or an expired 2-star crystal that will award me 55x 3-star shards, so I just keep it for collection
That again is a you problem. I hope kabam does more auto opens on hoarders that put themselves too deep to dig themselves out of the problem. So now people have to be satisfied from their pulls to open a crystal. Jeez y’all are on some kind of mind altering drugs. The backwards thinking here is nuts.
I never said I got in to any problem with hoarding crystals. It's quite the opposite actually. The only thing this change will affect is the collection itself. Is not like now I will just have resources expiring that I can't handle or something.
I understand if Kabam force open those specific / old champ crystals.
For PHC, gold, 4-hr crystals etc., sometimes players stop opening it is mainly because of item overflow rather than hoarding. Unless Kabam enlarge the storage (esp iso), otherwise the best way to avoid wastage is stop opening those crystals.
I don’t understand hoarding champion crystals. Just open them smh
For when you need iso.
Always using iso, that’s a poor excuse to hoard a crystal.
Actually, there's two reasons why I might hold onto a champion crystal. ISO is one, and saving points for events is another. I always open high value champion crystals of course, but PHCs and 4* and lower I only open when I need something from them, otherwise I save them for a rainy day. And while that rainy day almost never comes, you just never know.
At the moment I have 1606 PHCs. Opening them for ISO would be completely worthless, as I currently have 2066 ISO in overflow. Opening them for gold would be even more silly, as I have a ludicrous amount of gold at the moment. Opening them to score points in events would be worth it, but I generally do that opening shard-formed crystals.
Things change: no matter how efficient I am at managing resources, you never know what will happen in the future and saving resources I cannot make use of today for the future is for me completely logical.
No, you put yourself into a bad situation with that many hoarded crystals. Because now opening 2,000 phc crystals would be too excessive. You need to figure out how to get out of it.
My roster is just as big and just as developed as most. I pop every champion crystal, I sell iso daily, I have 30+ r5 max sig 5*, 80 6* plus tons of r3/2 of those. 3* and 4* haven’t been ranked up in years unless there have been nothing left to rank up on level up solo goal days.
People put themselves deep into a situation, that doesn’t justify not opening the crystals.
Let me help everyone that is hoarding champion crystals... open them. Don’t worry about the rest of the problems just open them. Open 10 a day till they are all gone. It doesn’t matter. You are already selling iso, so that is not a good excuse.
Your point is valid on some crystals like 5 star ones, or featured crystals we get for events such as shattered heart crystals. For others like 4hr free ones, daily crystals or phc, I don't think kabam should touch them. Other than that, resource crystals are the only ones that makes sense to hoard like T4cc crystals.
I see BG hoarding even crystal shard crystals which makes no sense. If you have a special one like the egg he is holding on to, I can somewhat understand that, even though it makes no sense to me.
For others like 4hr free ones, daily crystals or phc, I don't think kabam should touch them.
They are NOT gonna touch your Gold, PC/PHC, 4-hour Free, Daily, Quest, Arena, or Solo crystals.
(besides for what they already did a while back to Solo shards when they assigned them to dedicated Solo crystals)
It's not a problem with game storage/resource memory that people have 500 of a single type of common crystal, it's rather that there are 500 other different unique crystals taking up resources that maybe there is someone here and there that still have 1 each of some.
For others like 4hr free ones, daily crystals or phc, I don't think kabam should touch them.
They are NOT gonna touch your Gold, PC/PHC, 4-hour Free, Daily, Quest, Arena, or Solo crystals.
(besides for what they already did a while back to Solo shards when they assigned them to dedicated Solo crystals)
It's not a problem with game storage/resource memory that people have 500 of a single type of common crystal, it's rather that there are 500 other different unique crystals taking up resources that maybe there is someone here and there that still have 1 each of some.
Ya, I agree that Kabam will not touch them. For one thing, the outrage would be too much. Niche crystals such as the featured from 2 years ago should go because it is a waste of resource to keep track of them. The 4hr, daily and arena crystals are also common for people starting the game to end game players, so they won't auto open them without giving alternatives I think.
I don’t understand hoarding champion crystals. Just open them smh
For when you need iso.
Always using iso, that’s a poor excuse to hoard a crystal.
Actually, there's two reasons why I might hold onto a champion crystal. ISO is one, and saving points for events is another. I always open high value champion crystals of course, but PHCs and 4* and lower I only open when I need something from them, otherwise I save them for a rainy day. And while that rainy day almost never comes, you just never know.
At the moment I have 1606 PHCs. Opening them for ISO would be completely worthless, as I currently have 2066 ISO in overflow. Opening them for gold would be even more silly, as I have a ludicrous amount of gold at the moment. Opening them to score points in events would be worth it, but I generally do that opening shard-formed crystals.
Things change: no matter how efficient I am at managing resources, you never know what will happen in the future and saving resources I cannot make use of today for the future is for me completely logical.
No, you put yourself into a bad situation with that many hoarded crystals. Because now opening 2,000 phc crystals would be too excessive. You need to figure out how to get out of it.
My roster is just as big and just as developed as most. I pop every champion crystal, I sell iso daily, I have 30+ r5 max sig 5*, 80 6* plus tons of r3/2 of those. 3* and 4* haven’t been ranked up in years unless there have been nothing left to rank up on level up solo goal days.
People put themselves deep into a situation, that doesn’t justify not opening the crystals.
Let me help everyone that is hoarding champion crystals... open them. Don’t worry about the rest of the problems just open them. Open 10 a day till they are all gone. It doesn’t matter. You are already selling iso, so that is not a good excuse.
Your point is valid on some crystals like 5 star ones, or featured crystals we get for events such as shattered heart crystals. For others like 4hr free ones, daily crystals or phc, I don't think kabam should touch them. Other than that, resource crystals are the only ones that makes sense to hoard like T4cc crystals.
I see BG hoarding even crystal shard crystals which makes no sense. If you have a special one like the egg he is holding on to, I can somewhat understand that, even though it makes no sense to me.
That’s all I’m talking about, everything you mentioned to save I save as well. I have hundreds of 4hr crystals. I don’t see kabam opening those. Even T4cc I only open when I need a class. I was just speaking of champion crystals or champion shard crystals.
Hoarding makes sense to me, especially resources based ones. Or battle chips. Hoarding champion crystals make sense to an extent too, especially if people stream. Or if you’re saving for featured crystals. I personally like to hoard and open in batches of 10. But I still open them. And I hoard and open phc’s in batches of 100. You won’t ever run out of those for supplies of Gold and ISO. So even if they go into your stash... you’ll get more starting from the next day. But I agree. Hoarding Shards make no sense to me. There is literally no benefit to it. They just collect in your shard amount, and you can choose how many to open and not open whenever. Hoarding a champion crystal from a year or two ago makes no sense either.
And to echo the biggest point... if it’s better for the game, why are you complaining? Just open them and move on.
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All my 2s and 3s are maxed and 4s are minimum r2 with half of them being R3.. All 5s and 6s are lvled up
So open them for what? For more iso to sell to stack on the 28m gold I already have? The iso comes from everywhere in the game aside of phc or 3s or 4s crystals that I don't open. Only if I run out of iso of a certain class. And no I don't buy cavs,in the last 2 months I opened just one
When they say Old Crystals they mean Purchased Special Crystals (Such as Champion Specific Featureds), Special Shard Crystals (such as the Old Featureds and from Special Events like last month's Shatter Heart Shard Crystals) or Event Crystals (such as Special Legendary Crystals that have a Certain Themed Set of Champions).
At the moment I have 1606 PHCs. Opening them for ISO would be completely worthless, as I currently have 2066 ISO in overflow. Opening them for gold would be even more silly, as I have a ludicrous amount of gold at the moment. Opening them to score points in events would be worth it, but I generally do that opening shard-formed crystals.
Things change: no matter how efficient I am at managing resources, you never know what will happen in the future and saving resources I cannot make use of today for the future is for me completely logical.
For example, you go to Level Up a Champion and you see:
Iso-8 Class: Basic >
Iso-8 Class: Mutant >
Iso-8 Class: Skill >
Iso-8 Class: Science >
Iso-8 Class: Mystic >
Iso-8 Class: Cosmic >
Iso-8 Class: Tech >
Whatever Class the Champion is that you're attempting to Rank Up would Glow as an Indication that you gain more Value out of using that type, you then click whatever Class you want:
Iso-8 Mystic v
Tier 1 14/100
Tier 2 100/100
Tier 3 13/100
Tier 4 67/100
Tier 5 36/100
Tier 6 58/100
First Number= Whatever Amount of that Iso-8 Type you have on hand.
Second Number= The Inventory of Iso-8 you could Hold at One Time before it goes into Overflow.
Once you select the Tier a Scale similar to the one used for the Signature Stone Interface will appear and let you quickly scroll up to the amount of Iso-8 Required, it'll warn you when you have reached the Iso-8 Required for the Final Level at which point you can just hit Accept or go back One or Whatever Amount of Iso-8 Chunks and use a Lesser Tier to Finish the Final Level Up.
You could also Automate the Overflow System where Everytime you use an Iso Chunk that was Maxed and had some in Overflow, it would automatically fill that Free Space with the Soonest Expiring Iso-8 Chunk, then if you had any Expiring in 7 Days an Exclamation Mark would appear next to the Tab of it's corresponding Class then Tier which when clicked displays that Info and Timer.
I guess it could be slightly more Complicated for Newer Players but it wouldn't be hard to Learn and would make the Management of Iso-8 Much Smoother, could still have the Auto Select Button for Quicker Level Ups.
My roster is just as big and just as developed as most. I pop every champion crystal, I sell iso daily, I have 30+ r5 max sig 5*, 80 6* plus tons of r3/2 of those. 3* and 4* haven’t been ranked up in years unless there have been nothing left to rank up on level up solo goal days.
People put themselves deep into a situation, that doesn’t justify not opening the crystals.
Let me help everyone that is hoarding champion crystals... open them. Don’t worry about the rest of the problems just open them. Open 10 a day till they are all gone. It doesn’t matter. You are already selling iso, so that is not a good excuse.
If you prefer to open all of your crystals, then that's your decision. If you feel you're getting something out of it then do it. I personally not feel satisfied to open a "rare" or an expired 2-star crystal that will award me 55x 3-star shards, so I just keep it for collection
The only thing this change will affect is the collection itself. Is not like now I will just have resources expiring that I can't handle or something.
This is the thread you probably meant to comment in (**2021**).
Not the really old 2019 one from the last time they did it back in April/May of 2019 that you pulled up.
For PHC, gold, 4-hr crystals etc., sometimes players stop opening it is mainly because of item overflow rather than hoarding. Unless Kabam enlarge the storage (esp iso), otherwise the best way to avoid wastage is stop opening those crystals.
I see BG hoarding even crystal shard crystals which makes no sense. If you have a special one like the egg he is holding on to, I can somewhat understand that, even though it makes no sense to me.
(besides for what they already did a while back to Solo shards when they assigned them to dedicated Solo crystals)
It's not a problem with game storage/resource memory that people have 500 of a single type of common crystal, it's rather that there are 500 other different unique crystals taking up resources that maybe there is someone here and there that still have 1 each of some.
But I agree. Hoarding Shards make no sense to me. There is literally no benefit to it. They just collect in your shard amount, and you can choose how many to open and not open whenever.
Hoarding a champion crystal from a year or two ago makes no sense either.
And to echo the biggest point... if it’s better for the game, why are you complaining? Just open them and move on.