The State of MCOC

TheBair123 · April 2021

KDSuperFlash10 said:
It just confuses me honestly. People build up their r3 6 star roster for what? And now we're getting r4 6 stars soon. Where's the content to challenge them? Where is the fabled Summer of Pain? Where is the game going?

i wouldn't say soon just yet. i mean it took a lot of dubloons to even get the offer, and it's not like it was a full catalyst. plus you need 3 t3a and 3 t6b to be able to r4 a 6*. but i do agree with you that we need something fun like mulaney's challenge where it's challenging but doesn't feel unnecessarily grueling

Agent_X_zzz · April 2021

NerdNerdNerd1 said:

sir_gavin226 said:

SpideyFunko said:

sir_gavin226 said:

SpideyFunko said:
and this is why I am in no rush to get stuff done

or rather I was in no rush but then I challenged someone to a race
or maybe its coz u suck

nah you’re right
nah im mostly joking lol, i suck too
can also confirm

*6.3.6 Cap IW has entered*

Agent_X_zzz · April 2021

Anyway KD, I agree with this post very well written, this game has been pretty stale for a while for many players, we need something big soon.

Snizzbar · April 2021

Mmm I agree - Apocalypse is a dud

KDSuperFlash10 · April 2021

Snizzbar said:
Mmm I agree - Apocalypse is a dud

KDSuperFlash10 · April 2021

TheBair123 said:

KDSuperFlash10 said:
It just confuses me honestly. People build up their r3 6 star roster for what? And now we're getting r4 6 stars soon. Where's the content to challenge them? Where is the fabled Summer of Pain? Where is the game going?
i wouldn't say soon just yet. i mean it took a lot of dubloons to even get the offer, and it's not like it was a full catalyst. plus you need 3 t3a and 3 t6b to be able to r4 a 6*. but i do agree with you that we need something fun like mulaney's challenge where it's challenging but doesn't feel unnecessarily grueling

Considering we've gotten the first r4 materials in a PTW event, not in any challenging content, we're due to be able to r4 6 stars soon, whether that is by July 4th or Cyber Monday, with the latter being more likely.

KDSuperFlash10 · April 2021

IKON said:

KDSuperFlash10 said:
It just confuses me honestly. People build up their r3 6 star roster for what? And now we're getting r4 6 stars soon. Where's the content to challenge them? Where is the fabled Summer of Pain? Where is the game going?
I wouldn't necessarily say we're getting R4 6* soon, but the clock has definitely started.

I really do hope they don't come soon, but considering we've gotten r4 materials for the first time in a promotional event that isn't even one of the big two promotional events of the year, I have a strong feeling they'll be available by Cyber Monday.

TheBair123 · April 2021

KDSuperFlash10 said:

TheBair123 said:

KDSuperFlash10 said:
It just confuses me honestly. People build up their r3 6 star roster for what? And now we're getting r4 6 stars soon. Where's the content to challenge them? Where is the fabled Summer of Pain? Where is the game going?
i wouldn't say soon just yet. i mean it took a lot of dubloons to even get the offer, and it's not like it was a full catalyst. plus you need 3 t3a and 3 t6b to be able to r4 a 6*. but i do agree with you that we need something fun like mulaney's challenge where it's challenging but doesn't feel unnecessarily grueling
Considering we've gotten the first r4 materials in a PTW event, not in any challenging content, we're due to be able to r4 6 stars soon, whether that is by July 4th or Cyber Monday, with the latter being more likely.

i mean as much as a i want to agree with you, i just can't. we saw a glimpse of r4 cats the other day. nothing that kabam has said or done has pointed or hinted to the idea that we will be able to r4 6*s anytime soon. let's say that we do get 7.2 next month, and the rewards for completion and/or exploration include t3a or t6b. i don't see it being any more than one full catalyst of both. and let's keep in mind that you need 3 of each to rank up a 6*. then, let's say you can get 1 more of each for the july 4th deals. you would still need one more of each to rank up a 6*. if all of those things happen, earliest that i can see it is cyber monday, which is in about 7 months. i think it'll be at the end of act 7, but that's just me

DarkLord8470 · April 2021

Chikel said:
Then there's the bugs. I've been playing mobile games since the era of Java phones and I've never seen a game as buggy as mcoc. It's impossible to play this game for an hour without experiencing a stupid bug

See I agree with this completely. As much as I agree and disagree with this, I would rather them fix all the bugs and current issues in the game first. Lagging in higher class fight and log out issues in arenas aren’t just happening to a few. I’ve checked my connection heck, I’ve even upgraded my internet, and still issues persist. With whoever said it before, not a lot of the players are at your skill level however I do understand I’m not too long there’s going to be a lot more like you. I would just rather the gameplay be pristine or close to as possible by the time we all get there.

GAMEOVERJames · April 2021

TBH, I believe one of the reasons pushing Kabam release 6R4 materials in this spring cleaning event is that the Big Whales are perhaps “leaving” the game as they already ranked up all the God-tier 6*champs they want to Rank 3. As they already have a “perfect” and “ultimate” 6R3 roster, they would probably stop “spending” on this game, which could be a big issue for Kabam’s annual revenue.

So Kabam wants to create sth to tease the Big Whales to open their wallet——introduction to 6R4 rank-up materials, even though they have yet to launch a MCOC content that really requires 6R3 champs to deal with....

I believe there’re quite a few issues Kabam need to think about at this moment, and they need to prioritize these issues....

I guess the most important issue: keep getting profits from MCOC (at least in a short period of time)——Big Whales of this game are their target——release new materials to let them spend;

Then I guess the second most important issue: keep this game attractive——new players could leave anytime since they have yet to put much efforts and investment on this game——End-Game players are their target——release new endgame challenges to keep their interests;

Then I guess the third most important issue: let the new players be stick to this game——so Kabam made the contents before Act 6 much easier comparing with previous years by making 5*champs and rank-up resources more available (if it’s too early for these new players to feel “frustrated” during cleaning the early contents, these players will just leave this game)

Then I believe the fourth most important issue: keep touching the potential players——so they keep advertising this game, especially if there is a Marvel movie about to come (#Marvel is the No.1 advertising feature to keep this game alive)

Practically, I believe Kabam is tackling all these issues at the same time, but in terms of the progression, they’re still prioritizing them. That’s why you won’t see them come out at the same time.

Just my point of view. welcome any disagreement

Demonzfyre · April 2021

KDSuperFlash10 said:
It just confuses me honestly. People build up their r3 6 star roster for what? And now we're getting r4 6 stars soon. Where's the content to challenge them? Where is the fabled Summer of Pain? Where is the game going?

6*'s R4 soon? No, not soon. We're probably not going to see them until 2022. There's zero chance you'll see them by the end of this year. We're only 5 months into 2021.

They told us that S.o.P wasn't going to be released because of how busy last summer was. Hopefully we'll see it this summer. Hope it's not too hard for you. Don't want to see another summoner Showdown incident.

I don't think the game is in a dire state. I also don't think you're one that can represent what it means to have R3's for content. You have 2 and barely that. 7.2 will be here either next month or July. They said they'll release them about 6 months apart. There weren't major issues during the beta so not a huge amount to go back and redo unless the boss fight was terrible. This game is going on it's 7th year and I've been here for all of them. We see these lull's from time to time. There's only so much that the devs can do at a time.

On top of all that, it's incredibly hard to make this community happy. I'd be reserved about releasing content given this communities reaction to everything that's ever been released. It's too hard and rewards aren't worth it. It's to easy and rewards aren't worth it. It's too boring and rewards aren't worth it. I don't know how Kabam can ever win honestly.

Demonzfyre · April 2021

DarkLord8470 said:

Chikel said:
Then there's the bugs. I've been playing mobile games since the era of Java phones and I've never seen a game as buggy as mcoc. It's impossible to play this game for an hour without experiencing a stupid bug
See I agree with this completely. As much as I agree and disagree with this, I would rather them fix all the bugs and current issues in the game first. Lagging in higher class fight and log out issues in arenas aren’t just happening to a few. I’ve checked my connection heck, I’ve even upgraded my internet, and still issues persist. With whoever said it before, not a lot of the players are at your skill level however I do understand I’m not too long there’s going to be a lot more like you. I would just rather the gameplay be pristine or close to as possible by the time we all get there.

It's impossible for them to fix all the bugs. Bugs will always exist regardless of what devs do. Every game has them and this game is far from the worst. Some of the biggest games companies in the world can't prevent bugs. Just look at EA. They've been in the business forever and still can't make a game without tons of issues and their new games are $70 just to play.

Demonzfyre · April 2021

JoshKosh557 said:

Demonzfyre said:

KDSuperFlash10 said:
It just confuses me honestly. People build up their r3 6 star roster for what? And now we're getting r4 6 stars soon. Where's the content to challenge them? Where is the fabled Summer of Pain? Where is the game going?
6*'s R4 soon? No, not soon. We're probably not going to see them until 2022. There's zero chance you'll see them by the end of this year. We're only 5 months into 2021.

They told us that S.o.P wasn't going to be released because of how busy last summer was. Hopefully we'll see it this summer. Hope it's not too hard for you. Don't want to see another summoner Showdown incident.

I don't think the game is in a dire state. I also don't think you're one that can represent what it means to have R3's for content. You have 2 and barely that. 7.2 will be here either next month or July. They said they'll release them about 6 months apart. There weren't major issues during the beta so not a huge amount to go back and redo unless the boss fight was terrible. This game is going on it's 7th year and I've been here for all of them. We see these lull's from time to time. There's only so much that the devs can do at a time.

On top of all that, it's incredibly hard to make this community happy. I'd be reserved about releasing content given this communities reaction to everything that's ever been released. It's too hard and rewards aren't worth it. It's to easy and rewards aren't worth it. It's too boring and rewards aren't worth it. I don't know how Kabam can ever win honestly.
As hard as it is to believe, @KDSuperFlash10 is breaker of thrones.

Also the same person with all the "super accurate hot takes" and one of the biggest complainers resulting in the summoner Showdown nerf.

Masterpuff · April 2021

Agent_X_zzz said:

NerdNerdNerd1 said:

sir_gavin226 said:

SpideyFunko said:

sir_gavin226 said:

SpideyFunko said:
and this is why I am in no rush to get stuff done

or rather I was in no rush but then I challenged someone to a race
or maybe its coz u suck

nah you’re right
nah im mostly joking lol, i suck too
can also confirm
*6.3.6 Cap IW has entered*

💀

We need a new op champ.

Agent_X_zzz · April 2021

Demonzfyre said:

JoshKosh557 said:

Demonzfyre said:

KDSuperFlash10 said:
It just confuses me honestly. People build up their r3 6 star roster for what? And now we're getting r4 6 stars soon. Where's the content to challenge them? Where is the fabled Summer of Pain? Where is the game going?
6*'s R4 soon? No, not soon. We're probably not going to see them until 2022. There's zero chance you'll see them by the end of this year. We're only 5 months into 2021.

They told us that S.o.P wasn't going to be released because of how busy last summer was. Hopefully we'll see it this summer. Hope it's not too hard for you. Don't want to see another summoner Showdown incident.

I don't think the game is in a dire state. I also don't think you're one that can represent what it means to have R3's for content. You have 2 and barely that. 7.2 will be here either next month or July. They said they'll release them about 6 months apart. There weren't major issues during the beta so not a huge amount to go back and redo unless the boss fight was terrible. This game is going on it's 7th year and I've been here for all of them. We see these lull's from time to time. There's only so much that the devs can do at a time.

On top of all that, it's incredibly hard to make this community happy. I'd be reserved about releasing content given this communities reaction to everything that's ever been released. It's too hard and rewards aren't worth it. It's to easy and rewards aren't worth it. It's too boring and rewards aren't worth it. I don't know how Kabam can ever win honestly.
As hard as it is to believe, @KDSuperFlash10 is breaker of thrones.
Also the same person with all the "super accurate hot takes" and one of the biggest complainers resulting in the summoner Showdown nerf.

Ugh the summoner showdown nerf I hated that nerf.

KDSuperFlash10 · April 2021

Demonzfyre said:

KDSuperFlash10 said:
It just confuses me honestly. People build up their r3 6 star roster for what? And now we're getting r4 6 stars soon. Where's the content to challenge them? Where is the fabled Summer of Pain? Where is the game going?
6*'s R4 soon? No, not soon. We're probably not going to see them until 2022. There's zero chance you'll see them by the end of this year. We're only 5 months into 2021.

They told us that S.o.P wasn't going to be released because of how busy last summer was. Hopefully we'll see it this summer. Hope it's not too hard for you. Don't want to see another summoner Showdown incident.

I don't think the game is in a dire state. I also don't think you're one that can represent what it means to have R3's for content. You have 2 and barely that. 7.2 will be here either next month or July. They said they'll release them about 6 months apart. There weren't major issues during the beta so not a huge amount to go back and redo unless the boss fight was terrible. This game is going on it's 7th year and I've been here for all of them. We see these lull's from time to time. There's only so much that the devs can do at a time.

On top of all that, it's incredibly hard to make this community happy. I'd be reserved about releasing content given this communities reaction to everything that's ever been released. It's too hard and rewards aren't worth it. It's to easy and rewards aren't worth it. It's too boring and rewards aren't worth it. I don't know how Kabam can ever win honestly.

You don't know what tho do you? No one expected r4 materials during spring cleaning. You don't work for Kabam so you wouldn't know exactly what they're planning for r4 6 stars.

So SOP couldn't be released, fine. Then why didn't we get any challenging content from Summer of 2020 till now? It's nearly May 2021. It didn't have to be titled Summer of Pain, it could've been titled anything.

It's hard to make the community happy when no new, challenging content has been released for over a year. It's hard to make the community happy when all of 2021's champions bar one (if even) have generated any hype or use. It's hard to make the community happy when Alliance War has been unchanged and stale for far too long now.

Open your eyes up and stop being so narrow minded.

Demonzfyre · April 2021

KDSuperFlash10 said:

Demonzfyre said:

KDSuperFlash10 said:
It just confuses me honestly. People build up their r3 6 star roster for what? And now we're getting r4 6 stars soon. Where's the content to challenge them? Where is the fabled Summer of Pain? Where is the game going?
6*'s R4 soon? No, not soon. We're probably not going to see them until 2022. There's zero chance you'll see them by the end of this year. We're only 5 months into 2021.

They told us that S.o.P wasn't going to be released because of how busy last summer was. Hopefully we'll see it this summer. Hope it's not too hard for you. Don't want to see another summoner Showdown incident.

I don't think the game is in a dire state. I also don't think you're one that can represent what it means to have R3's for content. You have 2 and barely that. 7.2 will be here either next month or July. They said they'll release them about 6 months apart. There weren't major issues during the beta so not a huge amount to go back and redo unless the boss fight was terrible. This game is going on it's 7th year and I've been here for all of them. We see these lull's from time to time. There's only so much that the devs can do at a time.

On top of all that, it's incredibly hard to make this community happy. I'd be reserved about releasing content given this communities reaction to everything that's ever been released. It's too hard and rewards aren't worth it. It's to easy and rewards aren't worth it. It's too boring and rewards aren't worth it. I don't know how Kabam can ever win honestly.
You don't know what tho do you? No one expected r4 materials during spring cleaning. You don't work for Kabam so you wouldn't know exactly what they're planning for r4 6 stars.

So SOP couldn't be released, fine. Then why didn't we get any challenging content from Summer of 2020 till now? It's nearly May 2021. It didn't have to be titled Summer of Pain, it could've been titled anything.

It's hard to make the community happy when no new, challenging content has been released for over a year. It's hard to make the community happy when all of 2021's champions bar one (if even) have generated any hype or use. It's hard to make the community happy when Alliance War has been unchanged and stale for far too long now.

Open your eyes up and stop being so narrow minded.

No, I don't work for Kabam. But you need 3 T6B and 3 T3A plus 2 T5cc and 5 T5B in order to take an R3 to R4. With the spring cleaning event, you only get a small fraction of what's needed to form a full cat. We weren't able to R3 anyone until 6.4 100%. I'm very much willing to bet you whatever you want that we don't see any R4's until after 7.4. I will bet that's it's at least a year off. We've had 6*'s for going on 3 years now right? Their progression curve is huge. They don't want to introduce 7*'s yet so they'll drag out 6* progression.

Content is planned out so if they didn't do it last summer, maybe they want to do it this summer instead. AW hasn't gone in changed. They updated the map and rewards within the past year. They've changed global nodes several times and continue to make global node adjustments. What makes AW "stale" is that one global becomes meta and we see the same defenders every war. 10 out 12 wars last season I fought Dragon Man on Hazzard shift on boss island. What they need to do is not let people pick global nodes and it's random every war. That's a start.

Kabam Ahab · April 2021

This thread has derailed into arguments and name calling. Closing this thread to prevent further issues.

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