is Falcon better than we think?

Denslo500Denslo500 Member Posts: 905 ★★★
1) When locked on, he has the highest base attack in the game (went through Aunt Mai and did comparisons. no one is even close).

2) If he is duped with a High Sig, he might have the highest Crit rate in the game (outside of guaranteed crit champs).

3) His special attack damage is pathetic.

So, he should also be good for nodes/champs that:
1) limit power gain (SP1 lock, Matador?, etc)
2) punish specials (Hurt Locker, Mr Fantastic, etc)
3) punish power levels going below a certain threshold (he would lose his SP3 bonuses)
4) have Crit resistance
5) require Crits to do damage

Thoughts?
(If negative, please back up with a substantive argument.)
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  • Denslo500Denslo500 Member Posts: 905 ★★★
    @Magrailothos thank you for the correction.

    Still very high in base attack AND can keep it for most of the fight.
    Stealthy is more complicated to get his boost.
    Fury's fury also complicated.
    Punisher 2099, I don't know what the uptime on Overdrive is.

    I don't think anyone can match his Crit Rate with max Sig (other than guaranteed Crit champs).
  • Denslo500Denslo500 Member Posts: 905 ★★★
    @Magrailothos also, I wouldn't use any Furys or other buffs to equate.

    Falcon increases his base attack.

    There is something significant about that, but I don't remember.

    Does anyone know any attack modifiers that use base attack, that you could use on Falcon???
    I think the 10/20/30% damage boosts are based on base attack.
    Any synergy that could put a Fury on Falcon should also.
  • Kill_GreyKill_Grey Member Posts: 8,666 ★★★★★
    Denslo500 said:

    @Magrailothos thank you for the correction.

    Still very high in base attack AND can keep it for most of the fight.
    Stealthy is more complicated to get his boost.
    Fury's fury also complicated.
    Punisher 2099, I don't know what the uptime on Overdrive is.

    I don't think anyone can match his Crit Rate with max Sig (other than guaranteed Crit champs).

    I just checked the stats, and Stealthy adds a whole 8k+ to his crit rate, while Falcon adds 1.9k. No competition here.

    Stealthy's fury is literally 2 combos then spam dash back/intercepts and you're set for the whole fight. .

    Nick has a permanent 200% base attack fury, idk about p99
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  • MagrailothosMagrailothos Member Posts: 5,981 ★★★★★
    Kill_Grey said:

    Don't let my nit-picking put you off him, @Denslo500!

    He's a way better champ than he was.

    The fact we can even talk about comparing him to Nick Fury and Stealth-suit Spiderman tells you how good his Tune-Up has been!

    They're very different champs with different abilities. Falcon's an amazing counter for evade; and can also shut down almost every defensive ability in the game (except, for some reason, Miss - which is one thing you'd expect him to counter!). He's got solid damage now, and isn't dependent on debuffs to inflict it. He's got the potential to stack up amazing damage potential in tricky areas of the game (like Act 6 and the Labyrinth of Legends) where you run into a lot of Evade champs/paths.

    Nick is a far stronger defender; hits hard (but needs Awakened to really shine) can reduce AAR with disorient, go Unblockable and has some of the best bleed damage in the game - but only if you've invested in Deep Wounds, and only if your opponent bleeds.

    Stealthy has amazing damage, but again he's dependent on debuffs to inflict it. And those 6-7 hit combos can be a real pain against certain champions/nodes. Not a great candidate for Mixmaster!

    Seriously - you like him? He's a solid candidate for R2 as a 6* champ, and maybe even R3 if you love him.

    Idk about you, but Stealthy rocks mix master and tunnel vision.
    For mix master, as long as the opponent isn't stun immune, just do parry-l-l-l-m-l
    I'll have to give that a try!
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  • ChikelChikel Member Posts: 2,106 ★★★★

    Falcon is really good right now! A lot of people are gonna wish they had him at some point. I know I don’t even have a 5* version yet! So pissed

    I don't think I have even a 4* I don't have evade counters that don't depend on debuffs except a 4* Ghost
  • Denslo500Denslo500 Member Posts: 905 ★★★
    Crits apparently reduce armor and physical resistance effects?
    (tried to find specifics, but was unable to find a clean definition of what a critical hit is in this game)

    If so, Falcon's High Sig should be good for the armor nodes too.
  • ChikelChikel Member Posts: 2,106 ★★★★
    Denslo500 said:

    Crits apparently reduce armor and physical resistance effects?
    (tried to find specifics, but was unable to find a clean definition of what a critical hit is in this game)

    If so, Falcon's High Sig should be good for the armor nodes too.

    Critical hits bypass 75% armor and resistance. I'm not sure how it interacts with champions like Doom with high crit resistance.
  • ChuckD05ChuckD05 Member Posts: 174
    Denslo500 said:

    His damage approach is very unique.
    In 6 months, I think we might have a very different opinion on him.

    This comment aged well
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  • Agent_TAgent_T Member Posts: 221
    Dang. I’m really sleeping on my r1 5* Falcon. Huh?
  • Colinwhitworth69Colinwhitworth69 Member Posts: 7,470 ★★★★★
    Mine is going to rank 3 in a few months, RNG willing.
  • TrashyPandaTrashyPanda Member Posts: 1,574 ★★★★★
    Falcon is exactly as good as I think he is, I think.
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