New Arena Structure Feedback

1199345 · May 2021

Anyone else see an increase in death matches this week?

Piccolina · May 2021

Piccolina said:
I soooooo cant believe you removed the basic arena that in itself was a grind. . . Buuut then to add these its jst not worth the time or effort and u do this jst before July lols is actually crazy. . . for f2p players and the smaller players is actually really sad I wouldn't be wasting the time it take to hit a starting point of 250k points which then jst means less amount to spend come July. Its one of the times even I spend in game buuuut now i can't see it. Its taking all my strength not to jst rage quit. This is one thing you really didn't think about. Sure add a 6* arena but don't remove the 1 arena most ppl did. Even if they didn't do the others, the basic ones most did. Its actually kinda sad again cos it always seems to be the bigger accs to benefit, same as the content is never a balance between the skilled players and the others lols.... Its about time kabam actually thought about all of its players.

My morning always started with coffee and basic arena even before I attempt war or aq....now I keep looking at the 6* arena going to start it aaaaand thinking stuff it its sooooo not worth it...then today I needed my units in cav eq...and all this wk I've sat and watched my units stay the same...i am soooooo mad rn it's unreal...cant progress cos I need units, need them more for July, and this new arena is actually soul destroying. I have 8 6* champs lols.

I don't have the time or energy to even attempt them. My time goes into 2 alli's making sure its fun for everyone keeping them all as an amazing family and team. For what

To feel like I'm being punished for all my efforts. I am soooooo close to being finally done with kabam it's Crazy!!!

Fit_Fun9329 · May 2021

We had this new arena set-up now for one full week. I think we can expect an update for the following week by tomorrow. Various feedbacks were given.

At least an update where the internal discussions lead to would be well appreciated by the community.

Pyramid1 · May 2021

I am now totally disheartened by the new arena structure. More effort for less rewards. You do realise most of us have jobs and cannot achieve tens of millions in arena? I use arenas to give me units to cope with AW and other content. If I cannot get them then there is no point playing this game any longer.

Fabricius · May 2021

Since this update , i stopped playing arena. In fact i almost stoped playing this game. Before, i connected to reach milestone, and then make the other contents. Now i connect just for the aq, for my ally. I think i won't still playing the game with so few motivation.

Ram_Sarkar · May 2021

I'm a arena grinder but new arena totally waste of time for me. I have 69 6* but don't want to play arena anymore.
Old arena was good for units farming.
RIP ARENA

Wildone277 · May 2021

Hi,

I'd like to give my feedback on the new arena structure.

While I can see the benefit of the change for people who grind for the actual champion (being able to grind for 5* and 6* champions more easily is good), the new change is a big negative for generally free to play players like me who only use arena to get battle chips and hit the milestones for units.

The changes to the arena structure have 3 main draw backs:
1. They are obviously focused on using 6*s so if you don't have a large 6* roster, you have to grind a lot more to get the same results as previously and unless you spend units to revive 6* champs, it makes it more difficult to run both arenas in the given time.
2. Linked to the first point, the points needed for the new milestones are now so high that especially if you don't have a large 6* roster, you need to grind 3 times more (at least in my case) per arena to get the same number of units.
3. 5* champs have now lost a significant amount of value for arena grinding meaning that if people have upgraded certain champs specifically for arena, those resources have been largely wasted.

I'm not sure why this was done but I sincerely hope it wasn't to force players to have to spend real money to get units because that would be downright dishonest and money-grabbing in my view.

To fix this issue, I suggest 1 of 2 things:
1. lower the points needed for the milestones to be more in line with the previous arenas e.g. 4 mill points to get all milestones
2. Introduce a new arena separate from the current 6* ones with the lowered milestone points specifically for people to grind to get units

I hope this is fixed soon as I know I am not the only player very displeased with this change.

Thanks,

Strikerrx8 · May 2021

What u did to arena is terrible worse change i seen ever from kabam

Ghost12 · May 2021

Kabam Miike said:
Greetings Summoners!

Today, we kick off the brand new Arena System that reduces the number of Arenas and introduces 6-Star Featured Champions, as well as 5 and 6-Star Basic Heroes.

If you remember when we tried to eliminate deathmatches in the Arena, it's not always possible for us to predict how a change to Arenas will affect Summoners, so we're setting up this thread for your feedback and to report any issues!

These new Arenas may alter the Arena experience, and while some change and alteration of behaviour is to be expected, if there is anything you feel is too different or difficult, we'd like to know.

Please do not use this thread to discuss potential Arena Cutoffs. While we want to hear opinions on those as well, this thread is about the actual experience of playing in the new Arenas.

Also, please note that the "Infinite Streak" method is not being altered, but since there is no actual concrete method to achieve that, it will continue to change as more Summoners obtain more of the new highest Rank of Champions.

Would you guys just plz return the old arena at this point you already killed my excitement for the game. Plz kabbam just return the old arenas and keep the new ones for the people who want them. I understand this change you mean well but its not fair for everyone I put much time and I ain't earning much units as I did before. Plz just return it back no one grinded arena for rank rewards unless you where a whale or well builded roster player but what about the 95% of players we only did it for the milestones not for the rank rewards. Just plz return them back its that simple keep the old Arenas and new Arenas that way playes have the choice on which arena to grind

CyberOneMillion · May 2021

As a free to play summoner I will be changing my focus in regards to in-game activities. First and foremost, I will only play the arenas that were unaffected by the May update until I have enough 5* champs that are strong enough to make 100 percenting all milestones in one 6* arena a reality.
Example: Sunday, Tier 4 Basic Catalyst, Tier 1 Alpha Catalyst, Tier 4 Class Catalyst Arena, and various other special limited time only arenas. Besides non-modified arenas, I will play uncollected/master event quests, at least one alliance quest per week to qualify for glory, and a minimum of 5 alliance wars per season to qualify for rank rewards. My opinion is that my account will receive more benefits from various in-game activities which yield rank up resources versus completing a few 6* arena milestones for some units. Like many other summoners, I could not reach many of the milestones. I will join the 6* arena grind when I have enough 5* champs at a suggested rank that I have already determined to comfortably complete all milestones. With all that being said I feel that the new arenas should remain unchanged. There will definitely be a loss in rewards if the new arenas are modified in any way.

urzafrank · May 2021

I only play the arena for gold. I am not a F2P player, but since there is no efficient way to buy gold I have to play a game mode I despise. This change is awful for players like me.

CyberOneMillion · May 2021

Don't get me wrong. My progression will be slowed down by not playing the new 6* arenas for a period of time. That's why I am focusing on upgrading my 5* roster until I can handle the new 6* arenas. The same people that complain and possibly get the 6* arena rewards nerfed are the same people who will want arena rewards buffed when they are able to comfortably reach all milestones in those same arenas. We have a better chance of holding onto buffed arena rewards than we do at getting nerfed arena rewards reversed to their original buffed state.

Swank777 · May 2021

Why did they take so much away to add so little? Is Kabam considering switching it back or is arena just for the top 10%-25% players ig now?

Giuliameij · May 2021

Wozzy101 said:
The problem we’ll have is Kabam will be doing a cost benefit analysis on the number of units being used on these arenas versus the old. I’m not sure they care to much if less people or doing them overall. When you see FTP Brian Grant using something like 8,000 units to make sure he gets iBomb there’s gonna be quite a lot of Odins of money being dropped by the top whales to make sure they get there 6* champs.

That’s the only real data Kabam will be collecting. They already have all the other data.

But this doesn`t change if you let the 6 star basic arena be for 4 and 5 star champions only. This will allow a lot of players to get more milestones for units. The scores for the top prices will be lower, but the amount of effort and refreshes will still be the same. It would just mean playing 500 rounds with 5 star champs instead of 6 star champs to get the 6 star basic. The only reason they spend on it is because of the 6 star they earn, not because they can use 6 star champions.

Lorddrew · May 2021

Swank777 said:
Why did they take so much away to add so little? Is Kabam considering switching it back or is arena just for the top 10%-25% players ig now?

bud even top 1% are saying they have the roster but it takes more time. arguable they still like the change tho for the 6*... they actually spend more units to get those higher scores.
I want to add that even the grand master crystals are obsolete, you usually get 3* and best is 5*.. wich are useless for act 6 + and arena.

Swank777 · May 2021

Lorddrew said:

Swank777 said:
Why did they take so much away to add so little? Is Kabam considering switching it back or is arena just for the top 10%-25% players ig now?
bud even top 1% are saying they have the roster but it takes more time. arguable they still like the change tho for the 6*... they actually spend more units to get those higher scores.
I want to add that even the grand master crystals are obsolete, you usually get 3* and best is 5*.. wich are useless for act 6 + and arena.

I can understand that but it still feels completely designed for that top % only before lower/newer player could at least compete in lower arenas that option is gone what's left only the top % of players could hope to compete in this new arena system.

1199345 · May 2021

Lower the champ refresh timer

Tainto · May 2021

CHANGE THE ARENA KABAM. EVERYONE OBVIOUSLY HATES IT.
Dear god, the feedback literally couldn’t be more clear. How is this still going on?
At this point I’d rather see no arena in the game than having to keep looking at the “updated” structure - it just makes me more annoyed every time I see it...

Pulyaman · May 2021

Rohit_316 said:
It looks like the definition of "improved" and "fun" is not the same for you as rest of the world.

This is the exact example of the quote "one step forward , two steps backwards"

We are 53 pages deep now Kabam and still no response , this shows how efficient you guys are.

I have never seen 1.5k comments on a thread and will soon have close to 100k views too . Learn before it's too late.

Again, what response do you expect from them? What if they respond they they need 6 months to gather data before they can change the arena, will that be acceptable to you? We have given the feedback, they have said they are discussing on what to do. Badgering them opening multiple threads is not useful.

Pulyaman · May 2021

Fit_Fun9329 said:

Pulyaman said:

Rohit_316 said:
It looks like the definition of "improved" and "fun" is not the same for you as rest of the world.

This is the exact example of the quote "one step forward , two steps backwards"

We are 53 pages deep now Kabam and still no response , this shows how efficient you guys are.

I have never seen 1.5k comments on a thread and will soon have close to 100k views too . Learn before it's too late.
Again, what response do you expect from them? What if they respond they they need 6 months to gather data before they can change the arena, will that be acceptable to you? We have given the feedback, they have said they are discussing on what to do. Badgering them opening multiple threads is not useful.
Main problem is the intransparency right now. A huge problem which many company’s have. Asking for feedback is very welcomed but right now it’s not constructive.

A little Update is not too much asking for.

This has long stopped being a feedback thread and more of an "change it or else thread. ". I am not a fan of this arena and I have actually stopped grinding from this week because it takes too much time. But, badgering for an update or asking them to revert immediately is useless. They have decided to introduce a 6 star arena and the majority don't like it. They cannot just revert it and call it a day. They need to decide what should be the new milestones if the change that, they need to decide where to place the featured champs if the milestones are decreased, they need to decide the resource distribution over all milestones. As much as I like to thing they can fix this with a wave of a wand, that's not how it works. I am willing to wait for an update if it takes a couple of weeks more and if it results in our favor.

You guys are talking about the number of pages and views, how many of them are actual feedbacks and not simply rants or insults or conspiracy theories? We will know something when there is actually something to know. Otherwise, all you will get is "we are working hard to make the contest the best place, stay tuned" which is useless.

Pulyaman · May 2021

Where is the silence? We have had someone giving feedback on the topic every day and that is good. What I am against is saying again and again that we need an update or threatening to quit. I and especially kabam don't want people to quit the game, but there was a detailed response 2 days after the arenas changed.

We won’t be able to address this right away, and there will be more Arenas like this before we can implement a new plan.

This was the response. So, these arenas are here to stay for the time being. After sometime, we need to either adjust our gameplay or leave. I am just going to adjust depending on the time I have and try to build my roster to a point that these arenas don't consume too much time.

Zeuszero · May 2021

Right now 4* and 6* are the only rarity dominant in the three arenas. If we're not going back to an arena for each rarity I have an idea :

- have all refreshing time the same in each arenas (for example 2 hours for the 2*, 3* and 4* and 11h for the 4*, 5*, 6* ; note that 4* can have either 2 or 11h to refresh depending on where it's used) and have an increase in points accordingly
- maybe reduce the difference in points when PI increases/decreases

Xva23 · May 2021

They say no news is good news, so....

Aziz5253 · May 2021

Atleast temporarily lower the milestones until you guys can come up with a fix from the feedback, I have essentially nothing to do in the game right now

Robin_010 · May 2021

New milestones are too high. Yes I have 50 6* champions, not want to grind hours end hours.
Bring it back to 4 mil for all the units.

CometEarth · May 2021

Will we get the "good" changes any time soon this new arena is really time consuming and getting to use only the 6* and 5* champions is not good

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