So the actual summoner showdown (Gold difficulty) is locked to Thronebreakers which makes no sense since getting a 6* r3 is rng based and has nothing to do with skill. I thought the fight is supposed to be skill-based or is Kabam saying that people who have complete most if not all content in the game but don't have the luck to form a t5cc of a class they have aren't "skilled" enough for showdown? This looks like a cheap move to me. A way of having more Thronebreaker content without you know, actually creating Thronebreaker content. Cavs are quite capable of doing showdown like they have the last 2 years and this needs to be changed.
Your argument would have been valid 6 months ago when TB was a new thing but if you haven’t been able to get a t5CC by now it’s not due to RNG, it’s due to one of roster strength, skill level, progression level or willingness to do content.
There are so many ways to get T5CC now that either you have chosen not to complete that content (so being excluded from this is understandable) or your roster is not large enough to have a 6* you want to r3 and the T5CC to do so
Either way you shouldn’t be surprised that your starting to find content locked behind a TB gate now
SUMMONER SHOWDOWN or Summer of Pain. What are we discussing here? This post is probably about Summer of Pain I think.
Why Thornbreaker?: 'Coz Cavalier is not supposed to get those Rank 4 Materials and Selectors. And, FYI achieving all Summer of Pain milestones is gonna be much worst than getting Thornbreaker Title. Even Abyss doesn't come with Rank 4 Material. So why would Cavalier expect those rewards? It's too early for them to get those. Just try to understand that players at all levels should not have access to all content.
Imagine if he had a mutant t5cc opened 40 crystals and had no mutant 6 star because, damn you’re close to that. That can stop someone from becoming TB.
Yes it can, but such a player is not a Thronebreaker caliber player.
Thronebreaker is a progressional title, meant to target players who were at a point in the game where they were focused on ranking 6* champs to rank 2 and particularly to rank 3. Champs, plural. By definition, if you're focused on taking champs to rank 3, you can't possibly be sitting on a single T5CC with the next one in the distant future. Such resources have to be rolling in at a decent clip.
Originally the devs were going to set the requirement higher, to say three R3s. But the thinking was that since there is *some* randomness involved with forming T5CC and pulling 6* champs, it was entirely possible that there existed Thronebreaker caliber players that might be sitting on tons of T5CC and waiting for that optimal pull to rank up. By setting the requirement to one R3, that basically guaranteed that such players, even if they had the worst luck in the world, would still be able to form one rank 3 for the title and just keep going.
If you're holding on to one single T5CC like it is the Ring of Power and praying that the next 6* crystal you open will have a decent rank up option to go with your other twelve 6* champs, you are not a Thronebreaker caliber player. You aren't focused on ranking up 6* champs. You aren't doing rank 3 rank ups at any measurable rate. Whatever it is you're doing, you aren't doing enough of it.
When people say luck is involved with becoming Thronebreaker, they are right, but not in the way they think. Good luck can get you there sooner. But no amount of bad luck can prevent a true Thronebreaker caliber player from becoming Thronebreaker. They are just opening so many 6* crystals and landing so much T5CC that the only question is whether they become TB today, or a month from now, or a couple months from now.
On day one of Thronebreaker, I had formed one T5CC, I was getting close to forming another one, and I had about 60 6* champs. I got lucky, but then again, just exactly how much luck do you need to have one class with a decent rank up option, with the second class maybe a month or two away? I just needed to avoid having a one in a billion worst roster ever, and even with that kind of ludicrously horrible luck I would have still been able to find a passable rank up option if I really wanted Thronebreaker.
Today, the "skill path" to TB that avoids the Abyss is to grind out Cav monthly EQ, complete Act 6, do Act 7.1 and 7.2, do all the Variants, and somewhere in there is going to be a rank 3 option somewhere. I would like to see someone who has done all the story arc content, done all the Variants, grinds out monthly EQ every month, and still can't manage to do a single R3 rank up.
Everyone is right. If you do the right things it’s a joke to get to thronebreaker now. I achieved with 100% act 6. I then did my first run of abyss, I ran the guantlet, 100% all variants, 100% 7.1 and 7.2. I have 10 rank 3s I believe. Maybe 11. And I also have 4 t5cc chillen waiting for the right champ to pull or pull the trigger on a few rank 2s I have.
If you do what you need to do, it’s not hard to become thronebreaker. My buddy hasn’t done abyss, hasn’t done LoL, hasnt 100% act 6, 7.1 or 7.2 (just 1 pass) and he’s still super close to his first rank 3. So honestly if he can do it with the little time he plays the game (relatively new born child, grueling job). Then….. anyone can.
Imagine if he had a mutant t5cc opened 40 crystals and had no mutant 6 star because, damn you’re close to that. That can stop someone from becoming TB.
If my 6* roster was so small and bad that I had entire classes that I didn't even have a bad champ of, I'd have spent the last year and a half (it's been out that long) grinding arena to explore Abyss for that selector as you can do that completely with 5*s, get a champ of a specific class you want, and get 3 full t5cc.
Having Abyss fully explored even as a f2p player has been completely feasible for a long time now. There really isn't anyone with a legitimate RNG excuse at this point.
Some people are just not grinders like you. I don’t have abyss done and I have no intentions on ever doing it. There are some content that people just can’t bother to do. For me 1 abyss fight is just too damn long and dying has nothing to do with skill.
Then those people should probably stop complaining about "unfair" requirements and realize that sometimes you actually have to do things to get things and if your plan is to sit around and wait for someone to give it to you instead, it's going to take substantially longer
Have you ever thought some people may just have a super busy life and can’t grind like you or other grinders.
Imagine if he had a mutant t5cc opened 40 crystals and had no mutant 6 star because, damn you’re close to that. That can stop someone from becoming TB.
If my 6* roster was so small and bad that I had entire classes that I didn't even have a bad champ of, I'd have spent the last year and a half (it's been out that long) grinding arena to explore Abyss for that selector as you can do that completely with 5*s, get a champ of a specific class you want, and get 3 full t5cc.
Having Abyss fully explored even as a f2p player has been completely feasible for a long time now. There really isn't anyone with a legitimate RNG excuse at this point.
Some people are just not grinders like you. I don’t have abyss done and I have no intentions on ever doing it. There are some content that people just can’t bother to do. For me 1 abyss fight is just too damn long and dying has nothing to do with skill.
Then those people should probably stop complaining about "unfair" requirements and realize that sometimes you actually have to do things to get things and if your plan is to sit around and wait for someone to give it to you instead, it's going to take substantially longer
Have you ever thought some people may just have a super busy life and can’t grind like you or other grinders.
Imagine if he had a mutant t5cc opened 40 crystals and had no mutant 6 star because, damn you’re close to that. That can stop someone from becoming TB.
If my 6* roster was so small and bad that I had entire classes that I didn't even have a bad champ of, I'd have spent the last year and a half (it's been out that long) grinding arena to explore Abyss for that selector as you can do that completely with 5*s, get a champ of a specific class you want, and get 3 full t5cc.
Having Abyss fully explored even as a f2p player has been completely feasible for a long time now. There really isn't anyone with a legitimate RNG excuse at this point.
Some people are just not grinders like you. I don’t have abyss done and I have no intentions on ever doing it. There are some content that people just can’t bother to do. For me 1 abyss fight is just too damn long and dying has nothing to do with skill.
Then those people should probably stop complaining about "unfair" requirements and realize that sometimes you actually have to do things to get things and if your plan is to sit around and wait for someone to give it to you instead, it's going to take substantially longer
Have you ever thought some people may just have a super busy life and can’t grind like you or other grinders.
Then why should they get the same things the same speed. You have to offer some reward to people putting time in, and in this case, it’s getting TB faster.
You don’t need to grind to get abyss done, just save units and don’t spend them on Cav crystals. Even if it’s long term saving, an hour of arena a week can get you there.
Some Cav players need to stop expecting everything to be handed to them on a silver platter. Everyone else had to go out and get TB
Imagine if kabam did the original plan of 3 R3s 😂😂😂
Suck it up and get use to it, they've made it clear the next progression will require similar, and with the pace R4s are being released, be prepared for 3+ R4s and 7.4 completion at least.
This is life, and it's a very simple lesson I'll give you, and I won't charge you an odin for it. Work hard, push for what you want.. you will achieve it. All else fails.. daddy's credit card can pay for most of it 🤷♂️ If you don't want to, or can't do it - then you need to accept it'll take a little longer.
Back when RoL was released, you didn't have one specific champion, you couldn't even unit through it. FTP it took about a year of playing to catch up. They've made the game so much better since then, but the core is still intact. You want to be at the top? Work for it. If not, wait until you're ready.
If the rewards are worth it, you will rank whoever it takes. I had 3 R3s when TB came out, and I would have ranked my worst one for half the benefits I've had since becoming TB.. so it's your call. Youve had the time. TB has been around for what? 10 months when this is released.
July 4th you will get better options, gauntlet gives you good rewards, daily and hourly crystals give you better rewards. Calendar, glory store, what possible motivation do you have not to rank? Yes, it might not be ghost.. but in the grand scheme.. that 1 throw away rank up, could change your roster.. especially if you're as skilled as you say you are, you should be doing gauntlet unitless, which would make up for it.
Very simple option here, rank up or don't. If you don't want to. Don't. That's not our issue, but it's not kabams issue either. Although, I'd highly recommend considering a rank up soon, because you'll miss out on a lot if you don't.
Actually 2 OG champs to get through ROL. Gully was the best option or star lord and power through until you out damage him (by him I mean Wolvie) but your point stands @DoubleDelta
Imagine if he had a mutant t5cc opened 40 crystals and had no mutant 6 star because, damn you’re close to that. That can stop someone from becoming TB.
If my 6* roster was so small and bad that I had entire classes that I didn't even have a bad champ of, I'd have spent the last year and a half (it's been out that long) grinding arena to explore Abyss for that selector as you can do that completely with 5*s, get a champ of a specific class you want, and get 3 full t5cc.
Having Abyss fully explored even as a f2p player has been completely feasible for a long time now. There really isn't anyone with a legitimate RNG excuse at this point.
Some people are just not grinders like you. I don’t have abyss done and I have no intentions on ever doing it. There are some content that people just can’t bother to do. For me 1 abyss fight is just too damn long and dying has nothing to do with skill.
Then those people should probably stop complaining about "unfair" requirements and realize that sometimes you actually have to do things to get things and if your plan is to sit around and wait for someone to give it to you instead, it's going to take substantially longer
Have you ever thought some people may just have a super busy life and can’t grind like you or other grinders.
I'm assuming most players of the game can't grind the game like the top grinders can. But I also assume the vast overwhelming majority of them are realistic about what their game play will produce.
I can grind the game to get what I want, or I can spend money to get what I want, or I can be patient and get it later. Those are the same three options every other player of the game has, and there exists no player of the game that cannot utilize at least one of them.
Suck it up and get use to it, they've made it clear the next progression will require similar, and with the pace R4s are being released, be prepared for 3+ R4s and 7.4 completion at least.
I wonder if the people whining about it being so hard to scratch together one R3 fully appreciate the fact that the lesson their complaints may be teaching Kabam is next time make the requirement harder, so people cannot complain about the fact that bad luck is holding them back. Because I'm quite certain the vast majority of the people complaining about "luck" today are going to be the very people who will get stuck behind a higher requirement next time.
Some people are just not grinders like you. I don’t have abyss done and I have no intentions on ever doing it. There are some content that people just can’t bother to do. For me 1 abyss fight is just too damn long and dying has nothing to do with skill.
Certainly Gauntlet requires more "skill" than Abyss just on the basis of node combinations versus health pool and the hit count threshold before the enrage kicks in.
Having said that some fights can be solo'd in Abyss and yes, you will unavoidably die in many instances, but how often you die overall and minimization of resource usage is about skill. It's the difference between clearing a path in 2000 units versus 5000 units.
Concentration and endurance are a huge factor.
Coming in here and writing off Abyss as "unskilled" content because you don't have the fortitude to do a single pass doesn't sound like a ThroneBreaker.
Why does everything always comeback to abyss lol. All I said was I don’t like abyss because it’s too long lol.
Then the comment about people don’t have time we’ll that’s just how the cookie crumbles for some people, I never said they should progress the same as people who spend there whole time grinding this game. All I’m saying is we don’t know this guys circumstances.
Imagine if he had a mutant t5cc opened 40 crystals and had no mutant 6 star because, damn you’re close to that. That can stop someone from becoming TB.
If my 6* roster was so small and bad that I had entire classes that I didn't even have a bad champ of, I'd have spent the last year and a half (it's been out that long) grinding arena to explore Abyss for that selector as you can do that completely with 5*s, get a champ of a specific class you want, and get 3 full t5cc.
Having Abyss fully explored even as a f2p player has been completely feasible for a long time now. There really isn't anyone with a legitimate RNG excuse at this point.
Some people are just not grinders like you. I don’t have abyss done and I have no intentions on ever doing it. There are some content that people just can’t bother to do. For me 1 abyss fight is just too damn long and dying has nothing to do with skill.
Damn, you just need to look at this post for the definition of self-centered.
Imagine if he had a mutant t5cc opened 40 crystals and had no mutant 6 star because, damn you’re close to that. That can stop someone from becoming TB.
If my 6* roster was so small and bad that I had entire classes that I didn't even have a bad champ of, I'd have spent the last year and a half (it's been out that long) grinding arena to explore Abyss for that selector as you can do that completely with 5*s, get a champ of a specific class you want, and get 3 full t5cc.
Having Abyss fully explored even as a f2p player has been completely feasible for a long time now. There really isn't anyone with a legitimate RNG excuse at this point.
Some people are just not grinders like you. I don’t have abyss done and I have no intentions on ever doing it. There are some content that people just can’t bother to do. For me 1 abyss fight is just too damn long and dying has nothing to do with skill.
Damn, you just need to look at this post for the definition of self-centered.
Imagine if he had a mutant t5cc opened 40 crystals and had no mutant 6 star because, damn you’re close to that. That can stop someone from becoming TB.
If my 6* roster was so small and bad that I had entire classes that I didn't even have a bad champ of, I'd have spent the last year and a half (it's been out that long) grinding arena to explore Abyss for that selector as you can do that completely with 5*s, get a champ of a specific class you want, and get 3 full t5cc.
Having Abyss fully explored even as a f2p player has been completely feasible for a long time now. There really isn't anyone with a legitimate RNG excuse at this point.
Some people are just not grinders like you. I don’t have abyss done and I have no intentions on ever doing it. There are some content that people just can’t bother to do. For me 1 abyss fight is just too damn long and dying has nothing to do with skill.
Damn, you just need to look at this post for the definition of self-centered.
Really… no joke…
I wouldn't say self centered but they are insensitive to other people's time and abilities. I don't think being sensitive to that is their job. They are just giving examples of what is possible. Grinding arena. A lot. You don't have to grind very long to get lots of units and battlechips. The issue being discussed is getting TB and the truth is, you want it? You gotta do the content. The content that isn't fun, the content that's going to burn your units, the content that you may even have to take a couple days in. You may not be able to do eq for a couple of days to prevent burnout or thumb wreckage. Idk. The thing is, they aren't being self centered, they just aren't privy to your availability, desires, or skill level.
Imagine if he had a mutant t5cc opened 40 crystals and had no mutant 6 star because, damn you’re close to that. That can stop someone from becoming TB.
If my 6* roster was so small and bad that I had entire classes that I didn't even have a bad champ of, I'd have spent the last year and a half (it's been out that long) grinding arena to explore Abyss for that selector as you can do that completely with 5*s, get a champ of a specific class you want, and get 3 full t5cc.
Having Abyss fully explored even as a f2p player has been completely feasible for a long time now. There really isn't anyone with a legitimate RNG excuse at this point.
Some people are just not grinders like you. I don’t have abyss done and I have no intentions on ever doing it. There are some content that people just can’t bother to do. For me 1 abyss fight is just too damn long and dying has nothing to do with skill.
Damn, you just need to look at this post for the definition of self-centered.
I would like to know how am I self-centred? Just because I said I don’t wanna do the abyss? Lol
Why does everything always comeback to abyss lol. All I said was I don’t like abyss because it’s too long lol.
Then the comment about people don’t have time we’ll that’s just how the cookie crumbles for some people, I never said they should progress the same as people who spend there whole time grinding this game. All I’m saying is we don’t know this guys circumstances.
That's fine, but that comes with it taking longer to form a t5cc to become TB. It either takes money or time. If you have neither, it takes even longer.
I’m talking about me I’m talking about the op and was tryna find reasons as to why he might no be TB.
I have time and money but I just don’t make this game that important to invest all that time and money into it.
Why does everything always comeback to abyss lol. All I said was I don’t like abyss because it’s too long lol.
Then the comment about people don’t have time we’ll that’s just how the cookie crumbles for some people, I never said they should progress the same as people who spend there whole time grinding this game. All I’m saying is we don’t know this guys circumstances.
That's fine, but that comes with it taking longer to form a t5cc to become TB. It either takes money or time. If you have neither, it takes even longer.
I’m talking about me I’m talking about the op and was tryna find reasons as to why he might no be TB.
I have time and money but I just don’t make this game that important to invest all that time and money into it.
There is no right or wrong here. But progression exists on a multivariate continuum where more of one variable can make up for lack of another variable. And two together can push progression even further despite a lack of the third variable. You progress and play this game anyway that makes you happy. Same goes for the OP, and anyone else. But that does mean that perhaps you will not progress at the same rate and might miss things like the first shot at gauntlet, Carina's challenges, and other things. In fact, I would say that before these past two months there was not enough incentive to be TB, that I had advised some friends to hold on to a catalyst instead of ranking up a champ they did not particularly enjoy using. That finally changed, and I think from an objective standpoint, that's probably a good thing. I think it would be unhealthy to see this discrepancy every month, but certainly reminding everyone that there is a perk to being TB is a positive imo.
Put another way, what's the point of a highest progression point if it comes with no perks? Games die off because they put the highest point of progression behind a paywall, but that is not the case here. So ultimately, I do not care why you or anyone else may not be TB. As far as I'm concerned, you do you, and more power to you for it. But that does not mean catering to you or the OP is in the best interest of the game. I get why people may not be TB, but why should that matter in this discussion?
Oh In no way should the game cater to one person or a group of people, I’m definitely not advocating for that. I was just tryna come up with reasotas to why some people may not be TB for their own reason.
I am TB been that for months and honestly I complete about every content except Lol and Aol.
Why does everything always comeback to abyss lol. All I said was I don’t like abyss because it’s too long lol.
Then the comment about people don’t have time we’ll that’s just how the cookie crumbles for some people, I never said they should progress the same as people who spend there whole time grinding this game. All I’m saying is we don’t know this guys circumstances.
That's fine, but that comes with it taking longer to form a t5cc to become TB. It either takes money or time. If you have neither, it takes even longer.
I’m talking about me I’m talking about the op and was tryna find reasons as to why he might no be TB.
I have time and money but I just don’t make this game that important to invest all that time and money into it.
There is no right or wrong here. But progression exists on a multivariate continuum where more of one variable can make up for lack of another variable. And two together can push progression even further despite a lack of the third variable. You progress and play this game anyway that makes you happy. Same goes for the OP, and anyone else. But that does mean that perhaps you will not progress at the same rate and might miss things like the first shot at gauntlet, Carina's challenges, and other things. In fact, I would say that before these past two months there was not enough incentive to be TB, that I had advised some friends to hold on to a catalyst instead of ranking up a champ they did not particularly enjoy using. That finally changed, and I think from an objective standpoint, that's probably a good thing. I think it would be unhealthy to see this discrepancy every month, but certainly reminding everyone that there is a perk to being TB is a positive imo.
Put another way, what's the point of a highest progression point if it comes with no perks? Games die off because they put the highest point of progression behind a paywall, but that is not the case here. So ultimately, I do not care why you or anyone else may not be TB. As far as I'm concerned, you do you, and more power to you for it. But that does not mean catering to you or the OP is in the best interest of the game. I get why people may not be TB, but why should that matter in this discussion?
Oh In no way should the game cater to one person or a group of people, I’m definitely not advocating for that. I was just tryna come up with reasotas to why some people may not be TB for their own reason.
I am TB been that for months and honestly I complete about every content except Lol and Aol.
And I'm not sure the question of "why" matters in this discussion. If you want TB, you need to work towards it. Otherwise you may have to wait longer. What they are or are not willing to do matters less than what they can do, and choose not to anyway. They have to right to choose not to, but then that comes with its own price.
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Cavs: why is it locked away!
Kabam: ok, cavs can try this next bit of hard content too
Cavs: omg this is such a money grab plz nerf!
Kabam: ... fine thronebreaker only this time until you learn to accept defeat.
Cavs: omg you locked it behind thronebreaker! So unfair!
There are so many ways to get T5CC now that either you have chosen not to complete that content (so being excluded from this is understandable) or your roster is not large enough to have a 6* you want to r3 and the T5CC to do so
Either way you shouldn’t be surprised that your starting to find content locked behind a TB gate now
Why Thornbreaker?: 'Coz Cavalier is not supposed to get those Rank 4 Materials and Selectors. And, FYI achieving all Summer of Pain milestones is gonna be much worst than getting Thornbreaker Title. Even Abyss doesn't come with Rank 4 Material. So why would Cavalier expect those rewards? It's too early for them to get those. Just try to understand that players at all levels should not have access to all content.
Thronebreaker is a progressional title, meant to target players who were at a point in the game where they were focused on ranking 6* champs to rank 2 and particularly to rank 3. Champs, plural. By definition, if you're focused on taking champs to rank 3, you can't possibly be sitting on a single T5CC with the next one in the distant future. Such resources have to be rolling in at a decent clip.
Originally the devs were going to set the requirement higher, to say three R3s. But the thinking was that since there is *some* randomness involved with forming T5CC and pulling 6* champs, it was entirely possible that there existed Thronebreaker caliber players that might be sitting on tons of T5CC and waiting for that optimal pull to rank up. By setting the requirement to one R3, that basically guaranteed that such players, even if they had the worst luck in the world, would still be able to form one rank 3 for the title and just keep going.
If you're holding on to one single T5CC like it is the Ring of Power and praying that the next 6* crystal you open will have a decent rank up option to go with your other twelve 6* champs, you are not a Thronebreaker caliber player. You aren't focused on ranking up 6* champs. You aren't doing rank 3 rank ups at any measurable rate. Whatever it is you're doing, you aren't doing enough of it.
When people say luck is involved with becoming Thronebreaker, they are right, but not in the way they think. Good luck can get you there sooner. But no amount of bad luck can prevent a true Thronebreaker caliber player from becoming Thronebreaker. They are just opening so many 6* crystals and landing so much T5CC that the only question is whether they become TB today, or a month from now, or a couple months from now.
On day one of Thronebreaker, I had formed one T5CC, I was getting close to forming another one, and I had about 60 6* champs. I got lucky, but then again, just exactly how much luck do you need to have one class with a decent rank up option, with the second class maybe a month or two away? I just needed to avoid having a one in a billion worst roster ever, and even with that kind of ludicrously horrible luck I would have still been able to find a passable rank up option if I really wanted Thronebreaker.
Today, the "skill path" to TB that avoids the Abyss is to grind out Cav monthly EQ, complete Act 6, do Act 7.1 and 7.2, do all the Variants, and somewhere in there is going to be a rank 3 option somewhere. I would like to see someone who has done all the story arc content, done all the Variants, grinds out monthly EQ every month, and still can't manage to do a single R3 rank up.
Everyone is right. If you do the right things it’s a joke to get to thronebreaker now. I achieved with 100% act 6. I then did my first run of abyss, I ran the guantlet, 100% all variants, 100% 7.1 and 7.2. I have 10 rank 3s I believe. Maybe 11. And I also have 4 t5cc chillen waiting for the right champ to pull or pull the trigger on a few rank 2s I have.
If you do what you need to do, it’s not hard to become thronebreaker. My buddy hasn’t done abyss, hasn’t done LoL, hasnt 100% act 6, 7.1 or 7.2 (just 1 pass) and he’s still super close to his first rank 3. So honestly if he can do it with the little time he plays the game (relatively new born child, grueling job). Then….. anyone can.
You don’t need to grind to get abyss done, just save units and don’t spend them on Cav crystals. Even if it’s long term saving, an hour of arena a week can get you there.
Some Cav players need to stop expecting everything to be handed to them on a silver platter. Everyone else had to go out and get TB
I can grind the game to get what I want, or I can spend money to get what I want, or I can be patient and get it later. Those are the same three options every other player of the game has, and there exists no player of the game that cannot utilize at least one of them.
Having said that some fights can be solo'd in Abyss and yes, you will unavoidably die in many instances, but how often you die overall and minimization of resource usage is about skill. It's the difference between clearing a path in 2000 units versus 5000 units.
Concentration and endurance are a huge factor.
Coming in here and writing off Abyss as "unskilled" content because you don't have the fortitude to do a single pass doesn't sound like a ThroneBreaker.
Then the comment about people don’t have time we’ll that’s just how the cookie crumbles for some people, I never said they should progress the same as people who spend there whole time grinding this game. All I’m saying is we don’t know this guys circumstances.
You guys convinced me!!! Hoping for atleast decent- good buff though
I have time and money but I just don’t make this game that important to invest all that time and money into it.
I am TB been that for months and honestly I complete about every content except Lol and Aol.