Why does CMM gain only one energy charge when parries Nimrod?

UnobtainiumClawsUnobtainiumClaws Member Posts: 206 ★★
edited September 2021 in Bugs and Known Issues


Post edited by Kabam Zibiit on

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  • UnobtainiumClawsUnobtainiumClaws Member Posts: 206 ★★
    Colinwhitworth69 said:

    I glanced his abilities and didn’t notice anything that would cause that.

    I read through his abilities and node buffs twice and couldn’t find anything either.
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,566 ★★★★★
    UnobtainiumClaws said:

    Kabam Zibiit said:

    Hey there, I believe I know what's happening here. By default, Captain Marvel only gains Persistent Energy Charges by blocking if the attack dealt physical damage, with well-timed blocks giving her an extra Energy Charge. However, all of Nimrod's attacks deal energy damage, instead of physical, so blocking those hits should give her no Charges normally, and only give an extra Charge when she gets the Parry.

    I just tested what you said against Doom. He also deals energy damage, but CMM gets two charges on parry.



    Electricity gives her Charges.
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,566 ★★★★★
    Just a thought.
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,566 ★★★★★
    Yes. It seems it might be broken.
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,566 ★★★★★
    *Nimrod that is.
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,566 ★★★★★
    Could be an extension of the Parry bug as well.
  • The_Sentry06The_Sentry06 Member Posts: 7,787 ★★★★★
    Panchulon21 said:

    Magneto also gives her 2 charges on parry…. The explanation from zibiit seems a bit kabam-y in my eyes.

    It makes sense from her abilities perspective but that is clearly not what is happening in practise.
  • UnobtainiumClawsUnobtainiumClaws Member Posts: 206 ★★
    Typhoon said:

    UnobtainiumClaws said:



    Based on your screenshot, what is PROBABLY happening here is the fact that you did perfect blocks against Nimrod, so you took 0 damage. Therefore, you get one persistent energy charge from the parry but none from the physical/energy damage. Your other screenshots you are not doing perfect blocks and are taking damage, therefore you get the second charge.

    You can parry and receive 0 damage.
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,566 ★★★★★
    Kabam Zibiit said:

    That's my bad everyone, I had accidentally pulled up a much older version of her abilities when looking to see what might be causing this. She receives Energy Charges when receiving energy damage. I've passed the report about Nimrod along to the rest of the team to take a look at.

    Thanks Z!
  • AverageDesiAverageDesi Member Posts: 5,260 ★★★★★
    Kabam Zibiit said:

    Hey there, I believe I know what's happening here. By default, Captain Marvel only gains Persistent Energy Charges by blocking if the attack dealt physical damage, with well-timed blocks giving her an extra Energy Charge. However, all of Nimrod's attacks deal energy damage, instead of physical, so blocking those hits should give her no Charges normally, and only give an extra Charge when she gets the Parry.

    you were right Z.
  • AverageDesiAverageDesi Member Posts: 5,260 ★★★★★
    Typhoon said:

    UnobtainiumClaws said:



    Based on your screenshot, what is PROBABLY happening here is the fact that you did perfect blocks against Nimrod, so you took 0 damage. Therefore, you get one persistent energy charge from the parry but none from the physical/energy damage. Your other screenshots you are not doing perfect blocks and are taking damage, therefore you get the second charge.
    you're right tested against other champs with perfect block synergy and she only gained one charge
  • AverageDesiAverageDesi Member Posts: 5,260 ★★★★★

  • DrDrillDrDrill Member Posts: 163 ★★★
    While at it, same thing happens against Warmachine's sp1, and falcon's sp1 (no focus for him), and probably someone else I can't remember
  • AverageDesiAverageDesi Member Posts: 5,260 ★★★★★
    DrDrill said:

    While at it, same thing happens against Warmachine's sp1, and falcon's sp1 (no focus for him), and probably someone else I can't remember

    warmachine is fixed
  • AverageDesiAverageDesi Member Posts: 5,260 ★★★★★
    OP how are you getting perfect blocks with cmm?
  • RichardSlugbergRichardSlugberg Member Posts: 82 ★★
    AverageDesi said:

    OP how are you getting perfect blocks with cmm?

    Not OP, but there are a couple ways;

    Through Teammates synergy



    Guardian synergy


    or

    Mastery


    ... two in a row and first charges? I'd bet on the Guardian synergy
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  • RichardSlugbergRichardSlugberg Member Posts: 82 ★★
    Zan0 said:

    RichardSlugberg said:

    AverageDesi said:

    OP how are you getting perfect blocks with cmm?

    Not OP, but there are a couple ways;

    Through Teammates synergy



    Guardian synergy


    or

    Mastery


    ... two in a row and first charges? I'd bet on the Guardian synergy
    Just here to say it’s obviously not the guardian synergy. You can literally look at his screenshot and see it
    Good point! I didn't check for the charge icon!
  • magnus_xixmagnus_xix Member Posts: 2,019 ★★★★★
    A r3 CMM has a high enough block proficiency for a 6* guardian to give her perfect parries when fighting against an opponent with a challenger rating of 130 which is what Nimrod has.
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