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Have Arenas become irrelevant?

The cutoff for Omega Sentinel was 229M… shouldn’t this be worrisome? Imagine being place 101 with 228M and just getting a 5* and shads.

Maybe it’s time for Kabam to stretch the amount of people that receive the 6* characters on the arenas?

Comments

  • TimeGenesisTimeGenesis Posts: 732 ★★★
    For acquiring champs:
    Think of it like a competition to see who can put the most amount of points in a given round. I feel your pain i honestly do, but top 100 was the cutoff be it 228M or 230M. You are never guaranteed to get it. It's a question of how mucb time / units / money even is the new champ worth to you.
    Even if kabam increases this ceiling to say top200, you will still have that 201st person problem. Its a competition

    As for your title:.No arena isnt irrelevant as its a good source of gold, BC and units as well as a free 4* and 3* of champions.
  • laserjohn26laserjohn26 Posts: 1,447 ★★★★
    Someone will always miss the cutoff by 1 spot and will be mad. Adding in more "winners" won't change that.
  • TheCaptain412TheCaptain412 Posts: 337 ★★★
    Arena is hardly “irrelevant”.

    I grind Featured for the newest champs to get the 4*. Takes me less than 3 total hours over three days. Units, shards, and Battlechips are a bonus.

    I grind Summoner Trials for GM shards (for ISO), gold, Battlechips, and units. I hoard the BC until July/December and use the units to occasionally buy Featured Cavs.

    Bought two last week. 600 units, which I’ll make back in roughly one week. Got a 5* Omega Sentinel.

    Did it in January with 5* Sauron as well, but also missed on Toad, Misty, Captain Braddock and Captain Samerica. Win some, lose some.

    Nope. Not irrelevant at all.
  • Primis00Primis00 Posts: 265 ★★★
    Realistically getting a new 6*? yes irrelevant unless you are a whale willing to spend 20k units on refresh to get them.

    Getting BC units and gold without spending money? No, not irrelevant at all.
  • BlackOracleBlackOracle Posts: 254 ★★★
    I think they need to add more battlechips for each fight and round. If you use 6* champs, you should get 500-600 BCs for each round.
  • awesomesauceawesomesauce Posts: 774 ★★★
    in the past 3 years or so? ive only attempted one feature once, and missed it by about a million.
    otherwise, i just go for milestones, and when i feel like pushing i'll try to get top 1-5% rewards when im lookin for a few extra shards.

    I have demands of real world responsibilities and cannot commit that amount of time to arenas. Good for those that can, it just cannot fit my lifestyle.

    The absolute best I can do casually in a feature arena might be around 60m without burning myself out too much or spending units. So, I suppose that's in the range for some older, outdated champs that I might be missing in my roster, but even then it's still a gamble and generally not worth the time or effort.
  • PocketNerdPocketNerd Posts: 43
    That's pretty much this game in a nutshell. Anything with rewards you need is neigh unobtainable and anything you can get is effectively not worth the effort.

    Arena is certainly one of the more egregious examples.
  • GoldenDadGoldenDad Posts: 84
    Does this mean that the bots are back grinding 24hrs a day? How are those score possible for a human?
  • Mobile_P0tat0Mobile_P0tat0 Posts: 966 ★★★★
    If you think 228 million is high, number 1 allegedly got 329 million. I can't imagine a single human grinding that long...
  • SyndicatedSyndicated Posts: 572 ★★★
    If you want to farm Units and BC, of course not.

    If you want a champ with a a lot of time of your life on them, will be Irrelevant af.
  • DNA3000DNA3000 Posts: 18,648 Guardian
    Mif987 said:

    The cutoff for Omega Sentinel was 229M… shouldn’t this be worrisome? Imagine being place 101 with 228M and just getting a 5* and shads.

    Maybe it’s time for Kabam to stretch the amount of people that receive the 6* characters on the arenas?

    Think about the guy that goes to the Olympics and runs his heart out only to place fourth. A lifetime of training and practice, for no medal. I'm sure this stings way more than failing to get the featured champ in the arena. Does this mean the Olympics needs to start giving out more medals?
  • DNA3000DNA3000 Posts: 18,648 Guardian
    GoldenDad said:

    Does this mean that the bots are back grinding 24hrs a day? How are those score possible for a human?

    By my calculations, I could do about 250 million in about eleven hours a day and about 33300 units of refreshes, which itself would take me about six months of arena grinding to get.
  • RasiloverRasilover Posts: 1,448 ★★★★
    Arena is still great for gold, battleships, units and 5 star basic/featured champs
  • PocketNerdPocketNerd Posts: 43
    That's pretty much this game in a nutshell. Anything with rewards you need is neigh unobtainable and anything you can get is effectively not worth the effort.

    Arena is certainly one of the more egregious examples.
  • LeNoirFaineantLeNoirFaineant Posts: 8,638 ★★★★★
    The last time I went for a champ from area 4*s were the highest rarity lol. So if getting champs is what makes them relevant they have been irrelevant for me for ages. But I grind as much as I can for units and chips. By as much as I can I mean as much as I can make myself do without hating the game. People that love grinding areas are a mystery to me.
  • DNA3000DNA3000 Posts: 18,648 Guardian

    That's pretty much this game in a nutshell. Anything with rewards you need is neigh unobtainable and anything you can get is effectively not worth the effort.

    Everything anyone needs is obtainable with time, skill, and effort. Everyone playing the game for any length of time either believes this and puts in the effort, or is just one of those people who enjoys complaining about things more than actually doing things. Everyone else finds something else to do that's more instantly and superficially rewarding or that they enjoy complaining about more.
  • Badass84Badass84 Posts: 316 ★★★

    Arena is hardly “irrelevant”.

    I grind Featured for the newest champs to get the 4*. Takes me less than 3 total hours over three days. Units, shards, and Battlechips are a bonus.

    I grind Summoner Trials for GM shards (for ISO), gold, Battlechips, and units. I hoard the BC until July/December and use the units to occasionally buy Featured Cavs.

    Bought two last week. 600 units, which I’ll make back in roughly one week. Got a 5* Omega Sentinel.

    Did it in January with 5* Sauron as well, but also missed on Toad, Misty, Captain Braddock and Captain Samerica. Win some, lose some.

    Nope. Not irrelevant at all.

    Save your units for rank up material. Champs will come. Wouldn't buy any champ-crystals.
  • Malreck04Malreck04 Posts: 3,323 ★★★★★
    edited April 2022
    DNA3000 said:

    Mif987 said:

    The cutoff for Omega Sentinel was 229M… shouldn’t this be worrisome? Imagine being place 101 with 228M and just getting a 5* and shads.

    Maybe it’s time for Kabam to stretch the amount of people that receive the 6* characters on the arenas?

    Think about the guy that goes to the Olympics and runs his heart out only to place fourth. A lifetime of training and practice, for no medal. I'm sure this stings way more than failing to get the featured champ in the arena. Does this mean the Olympics needs to start giving out more medals?
    This is a pretty horrible comparison. It's always the top three positions that are awarded in sports/competitions.

    I'm not saying kabam should give out more, I'm never going to do a champ grind, but that 100 is about as arbitrary of a number to give out as 50 or 150(obviously this is a random ass range I came up with, but as long as the ratio of accounts who get the champ versus number of people grinding stays below a certain threshold, I don't see the issue. We definitely have enough information to work out what these numbers might look like)
  • GoDlyZorGoDlyZor Posts: 150
    DNA3000 said:

    GoldenDad said:

    Does this mean that the bots are back grinding 24hrs a day? How are those score possible for a human?

    By my calculations, I could do about 250 million in about eleven hours a day and about 33300 units of refreshes, which itself would take me about six months of arena grinding to get.
    Which yes is possible for a f2p player but that also means skipping out on every deal the game has to offer and severely limiting progression for 1 champion...

  • MudcruncherMudcruncher Posts: 20
    I just do 12 4 6 and say bye to arenas with a day spare 174m gold I’m happy not having to worry about running out of gold on rank ups
  • mostlyharmlessnmostlyharmlessn Posts: 1,387 ★★★★
    The game is all about figuring out what's worth while for you.

    I haven't done any arena in months and find myself significantly happier.

  • DNA3000DNA3000 Posts: 18,648 Guardian
    GoDlyZor said:

    DNA3000 said:

    GoldenDad said:

    Does this mean that the bots are back grinding 24hrs a day? How are those score possible for a human?

    By my calculations, I could do about 250 million in about eleven hours a day and about 33300 units of refreshes, which itself would take me about six months of arena grinding to get.
    Which yes is possible for a f2p player but that also means skipping out on every deal the game has to offer and severely limiting progression for 1 champion...

    Games are about choices. You choose how much effort you wish to apply, you choose from the limited pool of options that level of effort allows for.

    But this also completely misses the point. If someone says or implies that the scoring levels in the arena require continuous all day grinding, a simple calculation that proves it is possible for vastly less time means that complaint is exaggerated to the point of being irrelevant. Whether that level of effort is itself practical or not is a completely separate discussion, and highly subjective.

    There's a big difference between "are we back to grinding 24 hours a day" and "are we back to having to choose which things we can acquire with our effort based on how much effort we think is reasonable?" The first one is hyperbole, the second one is Tuesday.
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