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Also, not saying that ALL whales have skill!
So you do not agree that a whale with skills has a huge advantage over everyone else who may be as skillful but have a limited roster?
Kabam shouldn’t provide the roster for you because that defeats the entire purpose of the game to go out and earn champs to build the roster. Do spenders have a roster advantage then? Yes, and deservedly so. They paid for that, while FTP opted not to.
Can FTP be effective in this game mode? Absolutely. Is it purely spend to win? Absolutely not.
This game is a free download, and you can play it without spending money. To compete at the top you either have to spend a couple of years playing or spend money to get there faster. But, again, without people spending, there would be no "there" to get to. Fact.
Neither 100% skill nor 100% roster
Skill matters the most, but to think that roster depth is insignificant would be foolish
Another game mode that pushes you to rank up champions for defense. Another game mode that constantly puts annoying defenders against you with annoying nodes. It’s all just draining to me. I don’t play AW because of this.
I worry about this game mode because other games with ladder systems struggle a lot with the ranking. And these games have nearly a decade of data to work with. Those games have trouble with matchmaking still. How will Kabam handle stacked rosters that haven’t played much? Will they be matched with newer players? Will the ladder reset? How often? How will they combat tanking for easier matches? How will matchmaking work for the top of the ladder? Are they ready for the toxicity that single player PVP breeds?
Just so many issues that will take a very long time to work out.
I haven’t spent in a long time and when I did I maybe invested $200 total if that. Anything is possible if you pick the right champs for your roster and base building your roster around the global node. I fully expected to get run over here but I was able to beat the legend himself.
How can you say this when nobody even knows what we will be playing for or earning at this point? Let's just chill until it actually gets rolled out officially.
And if at that point, people who have spent money have an advantage, then so be it. They paid for the advantage, and if you beat them at that point, you'll have that feather in your cap...
Top tier chess competitors have to be discovered at very young ages, because the training it takes to become a top tier chess player is extensive and expensive, and by the time you're a teenager you're probably too old to start. It takes a lot of money to compete, first in local tournaments and then in international ones. All the top tier competitors have sponsors to defray those costs. Top tier chess players may be competing in one of the purest skill-based competitive games in existence, but it takes a small fortune to get them into that seat at the board. A completely free to play Chess player is not going to rank near the top of the leaderboards.
Is Chess pay to win?
He only had 2 r4’s and none of his profile champs are newer than 12 months old.
Yeah he has sigil but that’s hardly game breaking.
I just beat a very similar account 14k prestige 2 r4’s with my 11k prestige account, choose name and match ups wisely.
A highly skilled player can still destroy a player who's invested a lot into the game.
I'm far from the biggest player, definitely bigger than the one you're crying about. I still don't fancy coming up against the likes of Swedeah or MSD. The players we see on the leaderboards whenever we have summoner showdowns, very few of them are the in the top AQ alliances which are typically the spenders.
Yes, spending will give you a bigger advantage, but it's an advantage, not a guarantee. Its knowledge, skill and your ability to counter and outsmart your opponents deck which will ultimately win.
The player you've matched against, could be a 6/7 year old account who's played hard, there's ftp players I've seen bigger than him. I've seen limited spend players bigger than whales.
Once the leaderboards are out, and it levels out similar to in AW, you'll stop being matched against players like him as much, and the ones you do face are likely to be a lot less skilled in the mode.
Currently in game, the vast majority of defenders, have multiple counters. There is no holy grail I need this attacker, or this defender.. and even if there was, and a whale managed to pull it out of a cav crystal - you can ban champs 🤣
You need to accept you will not be able to out compete certain people, we haven't even seen the reward structure and there's complaints about it being unbalanced. End of the day, unless they do it similar to comic con, where everyone's given an equal deck, equal masteries, then there will always be an imbalance, but that's part of the challenge and fun of it, overcoming someone else and learning. If you think it's unbalanced now, wait until the relic system is implemented..
I don't care how pay to win people think battlegrounds is, I'm not afraid of anyone's wallet. The only way I'm beating MSD is if he falls asleep waiting for me to finish my fight.
Every sport requires money to play (technically so does MCOC, you need a device with internet). But in those sports, if one has enough skill, they are endorsed in some way. Nearly every prodigy was picked up as a result of joining/being invited to a chess club. Coaches take portions of winnings for those players.
In football, baseball, soccer, basketball, etc. It’s expensive to create facilities and buy equipment. But a top skilled athlete will make it their entire life throughout the levels paying nothing to get there.
It’s not like you go buy a chess board and it only has pawns in it with a note saying, “Please send $10 to unlock your rook.” Or “Just 1,000 more games and your bishop unlocks the ability ‘Move backwards’.” No, you have everything available to you to showcase your skill and use that skill to be endorsed to the top. If you lack that prodigy level skill, THEN you have to purchase coaching. Your lack of skill costs money to alleviate.
As an aside, there have been many late life GMs. Also, former World Champions Capablanca, Lasker, Steinitz, Rubinstein, and Alekhine all did so without formal coaching; to name a few (could probably think of more). Capablanca most famously admitted after securing the title that he never even read a book on openings.
DNAs comparison was fair. You pay for an advantage, F2P if skilled, can out compete someone who's paid for an advantage, but of course, paying will give some sort of advantage.
How do you think they pay for the dev team? Look at how many employees there are for MCOC.. I don't see any ad revenue. That money comes from the incentive of paying to gain an advantage. If they remove that, then there's no dev team. The game is not pay to win, its not as if there's a champion exclusively only available for money which breaks the game. Money enables you to progress and reach somewhere faster, those who don't spend, can still get there, just slower.
AQ is the same, theoretically, with the right account management and rng, you could compete at the top tier, but, you have to pay to guarantee that - and even then, its not like you can say to Kabam here's a grand, give me surfer.. look at seatin when he chased Doom. I pulled doom as a 6* out of early access - I've never had him since. I know people who have pulled him after max sig 3/4 times.
You need to learn the difference between pay to win, and pay for an advantage.
In chess, you have every aspect of the game at your disposal to use your skill to propel you to the top.
A prodigy MCOC uncollected player will never be at the top of the leaderboards. They lack the roster. In MCOC, you do not have every aspect of the game to use.
I’m not arguing BGs are P2W. I’m saying the chess analogy does not work without major leaps of logic.