AI aggression, open dialogue and customer service

Both staggered and disappointed to see @BitterSteel 's post closed.

I'm genuinely surprised about how this is being handled.

We know the AI is squiffy compared to before. From the huge complaints around the AI tweaks on map 2, 3 and 4 last year (including Seatin's joke vid on that topic) to the AI reactions now, particularly under taunt and infuriate, it's clear something is up.

We all know that the AI must have been tweaked to eliminate perpetual back draft intercepts, which now only work against weapon x when enraged.

Likewise, anyone who uses Hercules knows that being able to back draft under infuriate has a high chance of having your special blocked, light combo'd if you medium and stutter walk and light counter if you light.

The AI in the challenges does not have the same aggression as before. Is this the issue? Has aggression been toned down to accommodate removing backdraft cheese with magik and allowing for infuriate to exist?

Saying it's not been changed when everyone can see that it has been, will make people question the wisdom in continuing to invest in this game.

Open dialogue, not a statement and shutting the thread down, is the way that this should be handled.

The AI behaviour is different.

It's indisputable.

Stating it's not been changed, indicates to the player base, that something else has changed; perhaps the aggression rating?

Address it, look into it, keep the thread open, add it to the "ask the devs", get Dave to write something on it....

Instead... Shutting down that thread, without any engagement, containing considered, measured, constructive posts from dedicated, spending players, many of whom make the forums worth visiting?

Phenomenally disappointing.

Comments

DarthVadid

I predicted this when Starky was released. The taunt mechanic and now infuriate. All designed to combat the obvious changes to AI. Abyss would be monumentality more difficult with out fight me coward. Kabam knows this. I know this is the evolution but there aren’t enough counters for this. We need a TAUNT or INFURIATE mastery. 20% would be fare. There has to be some counter. Or make “fight me coward” a permanent part of content. It is way to boring and frustrating to dash back more then 5 times with no special launched by the AI

SirGamesBond

Kabam denies that they have not changed AI.
But I have an example when an AI was altered recently.

Ask any map8 player (I can only share my personal experience)
I was on disstrack path7 in section 1 for a very long time with cable horseman as main path clearer.
After every heavy attack the AI dashed backed 3 times. It was consistent and guaranteed from day1.
It was changed towards the end of Feb. The ai didnt get changed by itself.

It's just an example that they altered an AI.
Maybe it was only in AQ; All I'm trying to say is that this was a manual change, and someone changed it.

RedTide75

There are many distinct changes… I use quake for almost everything… even the basic hitting rhythm has changed. First hit supersonic speed .. then a mashup of medium speed, fast speed… and then randomly so slow that it disrupts your quake / evade and you get hit when quake is supposed to auto evade. I wouldn’t be surprised if Kabam never admits the problems.

Kabam Zibiit

Hey there, as we mentioned in that thread, we have not made any changes to the AI. We also mentioned that it is possible for something to affect the AI unintentionally and that we have been passing along reports from players for the team to look into. We would ask that if someone thinks they've run into a bug that is affecting the AI, they send in a report about it with as much detail as they can about what they are seeing. Having specific details is vital to our investigations and can make a huge difference. You can submit a report to our Support Team here or in the Bugs and Known Issues section using our bug report template here.