I thought they were going to rebuild this game

New_Noob168New_Noob168 Member Posts: 1,586 ★★★★
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About a year ago there was talk of rebuilding this game from scratch with a different engine. Did they cancel that?

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  • UnknownUnknown
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  • Eb0ny-O-M4wEb0ny-O-M4w Member Posts: 14,080 ★★★★★
    It pretty much already happened. Is the input system they were talking about and that we are testing this month
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  • GiuliameijGiuliameij Member Posts: 1,849 ★★★★
    New_Noob168 said:

    About a year ago there was talk of rebuilding this game from scratch with a different engine. Did they cancel that?

    I understand what you mean. Less loading times. Smoother transitions. That post right?
    More than half of that plan never really came to the game sadly.
  • solopolosolopolo Member Posts: 889 ★★★
    Crusaderjr said:

    solopolo said:

    Crusaderjr said:



    this is a live picture of the input system to the main games issues, and shows how it works xD

    I mean, considering the forum mostly consists of toddlers, a band-aid placebo should suffice.
    right, and all the real people who dont come to forums and express themselves in, in game global chat are doing much better xD im sure everyone is healing with these placebo band aids. but hey it "should" suffice

    Trust me, any "real people" wouldn't be spending more of their time complaining to the internet about it than they do playing it.
  • CrusaderjrCrusaderjr Member Posts: 1,059 ★★★★
    solopolo said:

    Crusaderjr said:

    solopolo said:

    Crusaderjr said:



    this is a live picture of the input system to the main games issues, and shows how it works xD

    I mean, considering the forum mostly consists of toddlers, a band-aid placebo should suffice.
    right, and all the real people who dont come to forums and express themselves in, in game global chat are doing much better xD im sure everyone is healing with these placebo band aids. but hey it "should" suffice

    Trust me, any "real people" wouldn't be spending more of their time complaining to the internet about it than they do playing it.
    wouldnt responding to people complaining be as wasteful as the complaint. both dont seem to gain anything yet both are done... guess thats the conundrum of people a real person
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  • GinjabredMonstaGinjabredMonsta Member, Guardian Posts: 6,482 Guardian
    SirGamesBond said:

    So Is the game still the same game if all code has been replaced by a new code.


    Went to find a meme for Ship of theseus.
    Found out that there's a scene about that in Wandavision. Oh well! Will watch that someday!
    You haven't watched it yet?
  • SirGamesBondSirGamesBond Member Posts: 5,340 ★★★★★
    GinjabredMonsta said:

    SirGamesBond said:

    So Is the game still the same game if all code has been replaced by a new code.


    Went to find a meme for Ship of theseus.
    Found out that there's a scene about that in Wandavision. Oh well! Will watch that someday!
    You haven't watched it yet?
    I watched a 30 minute recap in ytube before DS2. 🌚😬
  • solopolosolopolo Member Posts: 889 ★★★
    Crusaderjr said:

    solopolo said:

    Crusaderjr said:

    solopolo said:

    Crusaderjr said:



    this is a live picture of the input system to the main games issues, and shows how it works xD

    I mean, considering the forum mostly consists of toddlers, a band-aid placebo should suffice.
    right, and all the real people who dont come to forums and express themselves in, in game global chat are doing much better xD im sure everyone is healing with these placebo band aids. but hey it "should" suffice

    Trust me, any "real people" wouldn't be spending more of their time complaining to the internet about it than they do playing it.
    wouldnt responding to people complaining be as wasteful as the complaint. both dont seem to gain anything yet both are done... guess thats the conundrum of people a real person
    Justification.
  • I_tell_no_tales_1I_tell_no_tales_1 Member Posts: 1,198 ★★★★
    Well they have already achieved their target which is to Annoy everyone to hell with bugs
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  • TitoBandito187TitoBandito187 Member Posts: 2,072 ★★★★

  • SearmenisSearmenis Member Posts: 1,665 ★★★★★
    SirGamesBond said:

    So Is the game still the same game if all code has been replaced by a new code.


    Went to find a meme for Ship of theseus.
    Found out that there's a scene about that in Wandavision. Oh well! Will watch that someday!
    Theseus Paradox!
  • DNA3000DNA3000 Member, Guardian Posts: 19,838 Guardian
    Worknprogress said:

    Definitely not what was ever said. They were building a new input system that was to be layered on top of the existing Unity engine but the game engine itself was never being changed.

    To be precise, the Unity engine is always changing since they have to keep it up to date to get support from the vendor.

    The rough mental model for the game is a spreadsheet written in Excel running on Windows. Periodically, they have to patch or update Windows or they stop getting support from Microsoft. That's Unity. Sitting on (or rather within, but for the purposes of this analogy) Windows is Excel, the parts of the MCOC game engine that Kabam wrote. That has to be continuously modified to add new features, or to accommodate changes to the underlying engine, just as Excel sometimes gets updated to support newer versions of Windows. And finally the game we play is the spreadsheet in Excel, the data that resides within the engine and implements pretty much everything we see and touch. This is where additions and changes to actual content live.

    The game is constantly and unavoidably changing. The Unity change was basically forced upon them by the engine vendor. That update fundamentally changed certain things including how time works. This impacted some Unity projects a little, and some a lot. MCOC was more on the far end of "a lot." That forced them to change the code they added to Unity to reflect those underlying changes, and the new input system is a part of those changes.

    They are not rebuilding the game from scratch on a new engine. They are rewriting parts of the game that no longer work correctly when the foundational core engine was upgraded.
  • WorknprogressWorknprogress Member Posts: 7,233 ★★★★★
    DNA3000 said:

    Worknprogress said:

    Definitely not what was ever said. They were building a new input system that was to be layered on top of the existing Unity engine but the game engine itself was never being changed.

    To be precise, the Unity engine is always changing since they have to keep it up to date to get support from the vendor.

    The rough mental model for the game is a spreadsheet written in Excel running on Windows. Periodically, they have to patch or update Windows or they stop getting support from Microsoft. That's Unity. Sitting on (or rather within, but for the purposes of this analogy) Windows is Excel, the parts of the MCOC game engine that Kabam wrote. That has to be continuously modified to add new features, or to accommodate changes to the underlying engine, just as Excel sometimes gets updated to support newer versions of Windows. And finally the game we play is the spreadsheet in Excel, the data that resides within the engine and implements pretty much everything we see and touch. This is where additions and changes to actual content live.

    The game is constantly and unavoidably changing. The Unity change was basically forced upon them by the engine vendor. That update fundamentally changed certain things including how time works. This impacted some Unity projects a little, and some a lot. MCOC was more on the far end of "a lot." That forced them to change the code they added to Unity to reflect those underlying changes, and the new input system is a part of those changes.

    They are not rebuilding the game from scratch on a new engine. They are rewriting parts of the game that no longer work correctly when the foundational core engine was upgraded.
    For sure. I just meant it in the sense as that they weren't "building a whole new game engine" as I've seen said so offen or that they weren rebuilding the game from scratch on a different engine.
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