Gorr turns off willpower..?
FEARZ_0
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Is it just me or is this just an awful move from Kabam? As a player who runs suicide masteries a lot of the time I’ve had my fair share of champs that I can’t really use because they require firing off a lot of specials due to recoil, but that’s not too big of an issue to me because you can still use them but you just can’t use any special attack besides the 3rd one. But I just got 3* Gorr from the arena milestones and I was stunned to see that he just kills himself because he won’t heal from the suicide mastery willpower healing.. he’s at 50% health with in 10-15 seconds... I feel like this is INSANE that Kabam would even try do something like this...? Anyone else agree with me or am I just crazy?
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I don't think it's an arse move because we have a lot of champions who definitely benefits a lot with Suicides:
Hercules (reduced potency on bleed and poison = permanent heal, bonus attack rating from liquid courage)
Kitty Pride (phasing reduces damage to 0% = permanent heal)
Diablo (drastic reduced potency on poison = permanent heal)
Knull (reduced potency on bleed and poison = permanent heal)
...and many more.
Not all champions should cater to suicides as it is already a huge advantage (+60% damage). It's a trade-off. It was your decision to take this compromise for a leverage that you can take advantage of. We can't use all champions with a single mastery set-up. I just hope Kabam release Mastery 2.0 already so switching between them won't be tedious.
P.S. I also run suicides most of the time.
Initially, these heals will be super weak because they heal a percentage of missing health. When Gorr is near full health, the heal will heal for almost nothing. But as Gorr drops in health these heals will get stronger and stronger. At 16% of missing health, by the time Gorr is down to about 40% health they will be healing for about 10% of health per trigger. Factoring in the effects of the poison debuff (-30% heal) and assuming Recovery:3 (+15% heal) we end up with something around 8% heal per trigger. That's before Heresy stacks. If you cycle fast enough, that's enough to balance out Liquid Courage damage and at least some recoil damage.
Depending on how offensively aggressive you want to get with Gorr, with suicides he will drop in health pretty quickly at first, then slow down until he is hovering between 20% and 40% health, probably (it depends on how you play him). That seems to be what the devs were specifically going for: a champ that tends to live at lower health but gets other benefits for doing so.
Also, Gorr will have one suicide friendly property that no one else currently has. He's immune to heal block. Heal block is the bane of suicide masteries for most champs. Gorr won't be affected negatively by heal block at all.
I fully understand the point you’re coming from, but I’m not saying all champs should cater to suicides like I mentioned there is already a massive con to suicides “Recoil” and there are lots of champs that it doesn’t make much sense to use because of it and I’m happy with that. it would be an unfair advantage if every champ was build to use suicides.
I’m 100% okay with the fact that if I want to use a champ that isn’t suicide friendly I’m limited to a SP3 that’s fine I can still play with a champ I like even if it’s not optimal damage output for that champ. My issue is the fact it turns off willpower?! And whilst it literally makes him unplayable with suicides 😭 what’s to stop Kabam bringing out champs that turn off other masteries...?! Imagine a champ comes out and it turns of Dex or parry!?
My main issue is the turning off willpower, I think that’s such a bad move, I’m all for bringing out champs that aren’t suicide friendly I just think this is a BS move from Kabam. I paid to max out my willpower, I want it to work on any champ I decide to use, it’s as simple as that!
P.S apologies if I come across aggressive, I’m not trying to be but I know it can be hard to read people’s tones over the internet, I’m just really really annoyed with Kabam
Yea, his design is really quirky. He gains a bonus from the willpower in the form of Vicious buffs. He's still usable with it turned on but you're gonna have to play with a specific playstyle.
I actually think it sucks because I really like Gorr from the comics and Christian Bale's portrayal was *chef's kiss*. He's gonna be on my "cool quirky champion but will not rankup" list along with Dinosaur man.
Yeah Christian Bales acting was like Heath Ledger Joker level, it was incredible! And yeah it sucks I won’t be able to play him, I might not even rank him up so I can keep him out of my arena teams cus he’ll probably cause me to loose the streak 🤣😅