There isn’t much need for more than 600 glory a week

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  • willrun4adonutwillrun4adonut Member Posts: 4,990 ★★★★★

    For a lot of players.

    thats more than 4 of my posts being disagreed at once
    I haven't laughed so hard on the forums in awhile. Thanks @Real_Madrid_76_2
  • JragonMaster170JragonMaster170 Member Posts: 2,049 ★★★★★
    This is giving me flashbacks to that thread "Either Nerf Doom or Give Everyone Doom."
  • Real_Madrid_76_2Real_Madrid_76_2 Member Posts: 3,572 ★★★★★

    This is giving me flashbacks to that thread "Either Nerf Doom or Give Everyone Doom."

    I mean if it's question of nerfing a champ like doom who takes 100 hits to rampup, kabam shall be nerfing quake and ghost first💀
  • MrFullStopMrFullStop Member Posts: 153 ★★
    here is an easy solution for you: use only 600 glory, and spend the rest on Gold Crystals, problem solved
  • Real_Madrid_76_2Real_Madrid_76_2 Member Posts: 3,572 ★★★★★

    For a lot of players.

    thats more than 4 of my posts being disagreed at once
    I haven't laughed so hard on the forums in awhile. Thanks @Real_Madrid_76_2
    12 now
  • SighsohardSighsohard Member Posts: 666 ★★★

    I guess my roster is just more robust than I thought it was.

    There's nothing wrong with saying *you* don't need more than 600 a week. That's not a statement for *a lot of players*.
    What’s “a lot”?
    Well based on the fact that not a single person has agreed with anything you've said, probably all of them.
    Fortunately for me I don’t need anyone to agree with me to be confident in my assessment. I’ll simply take satisfaction in the fact that the store will be updated, probably very soon, and that will be all the proof I need that my appraisal was correct.
  • GreekhitGreekhit Member Posts: 2,820 ★★★★★

    I guess my roster is just more robust than I thought it was.

    There's nothing wrong with saying *you* don't need more than 600 a week. That's not a statement for *a lot of players*.
    What’s “a lot”?
    Well based on the fact that not a single person has agreed with anything you've said, probably all of them.
    Fortunately for me I don’t need anyone to agree with me to be confident in my assessment. I’ll simply take satisfaction in the fact that the store will be updated, probably very soon, and that will be all the proof I need that my appraisal was correct.
    The store will be updated anyway, that doesn’t necessarily make it a proof that your appraisal is correct.
    Anyway, why while your main point is that the glory store is outdated (which is in fact) you expressed it with an eccentric statement that only 600 glory is needed?
    To get views? You got them along with negativity.
    You realise with this, instead of getting people stand by your point, which is correct, you drove them to spam disagrees?
    You could had simply said, that glory store is outdated and glory as currency has lost value 😉
  • PikoluPikolu Member, Guardian Posts: 8,017 Guardian

    I guess my roster is just more robust than I thought it was.

    There's nothing wrong with saying *you* don't need more than 600 a week. That's not a statement for *a lot of players*.
    What’s “a lot”?
    Well based on the fact that not a single person has agreed with anything you've said, probably all of them.
    Fortunately for me I don’t need anyone to agree with me to be confident in my assessment. I’ll simply take satisfaction in the fact that the store will be updated, probably very soon, and that will be all the proof I need that my appraisal was correct.
    Your argument is, and I Quote, "a lot of players do not need more than 600 glory a week". You have gotten the perspectives of many paragon players, people who have hit the top, that say you are wrong. This is who you assume your target audience is, and have been proven wrong many times. Your confidence is fueled by your ignorance, rather than a solid reasoning.

    Also to go along with DNA, an update to the glory store would be a buff to what it has, instead of a nerf. A change to the glory store would further prove your incorrect assessment. If your assessment was to be true, then the glory store would never change ever again.
  • SighsohardSighsohard Member Posts: 666 ★★★
    I think they’re disagreeing as a defense mechanism. They cannot logically justify why they’re spending time farming glory when they don’t need what they are spending the glory on. These are most likely folks that are doing map7 and do not want to openly acknowledge that folks doing map5 probably have just as good of a roster as them. I have 12 t5b and 30 t2a expiring as we speak. Sure. I could use it, just to use it, but it’s not needed… they’re just addicted to the grind and take comfort hearing that others are too.
  • SighsohardSighsohard Member Posts: 666 ★★★
    DNA3000 said:

    I guess my roster is just more robust than I thought it was.

    There's nothing wrong with saying *you* don't need more than 600 a week. That's not a statement for *a lot of players*.
    What’s “a lot”?
    Well based on the fact that not a single person has agreed with anything you've said, probably all of them.
    Fortunately for me I don’t need anyone to agree with me to be confident in my assessment. I’ll simply take satisfaction in the fact that the store will be updated, probably very soon, and that will be all the proof I need that my appraisal was correct.
    That's like claiming the Sun loves you and asserting the proof is that it will rise over head tomorrow.

    Actually, maybe worse because I don't see how updating the glory store would prove most players don't need much glory: updating the glory store would tend to more obviously demonstrate that the majority of players could use more glory, or alternatively cheaper items to stretch their glory farther. For most players that don't need much glory, an update to the glory store wouldn't help them regardless.

    Technically no one "needs" glory for some definition of need. Once upon a time there was no glory and no glory store. But in terms of what would be nominally useful to most players, most players could make use of far more than 600 glory. In fact, I would be hard pressed to imagine a player that could *only* make good use of 600 glory. Its easier to spend zero than to spend 600.
    The majority, near all the items in the store, are available by other means and are frequently expiring in my experience. For that reason glory isn’t very valuable to me and I’d assume, maybe incorrectly to many others. The only explanation is people ranking simply to rank. Not bc they Willa fault use the champs they’re ranking. I never rank a champ I have no plan to use. I don’t understand that exercise.
    Updating the glory store. Adding t6b and t3a would absolutely make glory more valuable, EG loyalty. Not a very valued resource just a month ago. Not anymore.
  • CederCeder Member Posts: 668 ★★★

    For a lot of players.

    A

    For a lot of players.

    Are you like an uncollected player or something
  • DNA3000DNA3000 Member, Guardian Posts: 19,846 Guardian

    DNA3000 said:

    I guess my roster is just more robust than I thought it was.

    There's nothing wrong with saying *you* don't need more than 600 a week. That's not a statement for *a lot of players*.
    What’s “a lot”?
    Well based on the fact that not a single person has agreed with anything you've said, probably all of them.
    Fortunately for me I don’t need anyone to agree with me to be confident in my assessment. I’ll simply take satisfaction in the fact that the store will be updated, probably very soon, and that will be all the proof I need that my appraisal was correct.
    That's like claiming the Sun loves you and asserting the proof is that it will rise over head tomorrow.

    Actually, maybe worse because I don't see how updating the glory store would prove most players don't need much glory: updating the glory store would tend to more obviously demonstrate that the majority of players could use more glory, or alternatively cheaper items to stretch their glory farther. For most players that don't need much glory, an update to the glory store wouldn't help them regardless.

    Technically no one "needs" glory for some definition of need. Once upon a time there was no glory and no glory store. But in terms of what would be nominally useful to most players, most players could make use of far more than 600 glory. In fact, I would be hard pressed to imagine a player that could *only* make good use of 600 glory. Its easier to spend zero than to spend 600.
    The majority, near all the items in the store, are available by other means and are frequently expiring in my experience. For that reason glory isn’t very valuable to me and I’d assume, maybe incorrectly to many others. The only explanation is people ranking simply to rank. Not bc they Willa fault use the champs they’re ranking. I never rank a champ I have no plan to use. I don’t understand that exercise.
    Updating the glory store. Adding t6b and t3a would absolutely make glory more valuable, EG loyalty. Not a very valued resource just a month ago. Not anymore.
    The vast majority of people don't just run out of champs to rank. Maybe you are one of the rare players that can do everything with a couple champs, but this is not true for not only the vast majority of players but also the vast majority of high tier players. If it were true that more than a handful of players stopped ranking, the game economy would collapse. And yet players continue to need and go after a wide range of rank up materials.

    Even if a player is focused on rank 4s, those rank 4s have to be taken up to rank 2 first, then rank 3. They still need lower rank up materials: a ton of them in fact.

    Of course putting more stuff in the glory store would make glory more valuable, but that's a truism. No matter what they do, doing more would make glory more valuable. But that doesn't come for free. When the glory store first added T5B and T2A, players decided that glory was so valuable it should *only* be used on those catalysts. Players were saving all of their glory to target the high tier materials, and then complained they were running out of the low tier ones and needed those buffed. When told they should buy them with glory, they said it was irrational to spend glory on low tier items because glory was "obviously" meant for the high tier stuff. People interpreted the devs adding high tier items in the glory store as a sign from the Glory God that the eleventh commandment was to not waste glory of low tier items.

    The devs don't want people saving up glory to spend on super high priced items. That's not the function of glory, which is why glory has a relatively low cap. Glory was added to the game to replace AQ crystals which forced players to get only certain rewards for certain maps. Glory added agency: players could now choose what to spend it on. But they are still intended to, and required to, decide more or less immediately. They can save glory for a little while, but they have to spend it relatively soon on the kinds of resources they would otherwise have been getting weekly from AQ. That places limits on how much R4+ materials they can reasonably put in the glory store.

    Those things will get added to the glory store eventually, but whether that happens tomorrow or next year will depend in large part on when the devs decide the downsides of adding those materials to the glory store is outweighed by the benefits of offering players that choice. I will say they have the data on how glory is spent by all tiers of players, and if more than a tiny percentage of the players were in the same position as you say you are, unable to make reasonable use of more than a tiny amount of glory, they would have made structural changes to the glory store by now. That problem has to be vanishingly small.
  • mgj0630mgj0630 Member Posts: 1,104 ★★★★
    This man probably also thinks the $5 Thronebreaker daily is worthless cause he can spend the same $5 on units to purchase revives to plow through content.
  • Bugmat78Bugmat78 Member Posts: 2,412 ★★★★★
    edited August 2022

    It’s all good we just disagree. My experience is I have 30 r3s and 4 r4s. My ally only does map 5x5….. I can continue to make r2s, and a few r3s I probably won’t use, just to do it…. But then id prob be out of gold…. Routinely have t5b expiring along with t2a…. There’s surely 10s of thousands of players farther along then me. I just assume they also find nothing much useful in the glory store
    Just my take.
    I’d guess the majority of folks disagreeing with me are probably not paragon, maybe not even TB? dunno. Seems odd so many find glory store so relevant still but, ok.

    How did I miss this thread lol. I'm paragon with more 6r3 and 6r4 champs than you and 5,000 glory isnt enough.

    And yes it's because I keep ranking up champs - that's part of the fun of this game. Not to rank up just who we need, but who we like and want.

    I can probably use my Apocalypse team to do Cav EQ mutant chapter, but how nice would it be to use Captain Britain and Sauron? I'll rank 'em up and find out! Science chapter? Fantastic + She-hulk, but I like that Scorpion fellah so let's rank him for next time..
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  • SighsohardSighsohard Member Posts: 666 ★★★
    edited September 2022
    :)
    Glory store next in a few weeks
  • KDoggg2017KDoggg2017 Member Posts: 1,250 ★★★★
    edited September 2022
    Beewee said:

    Bait post



    Agreed. The troll is strong with this one. 😒
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