War matchmaking flaw - Kabam

SunRiceSunRice Member Posts: 160 ★★
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There's a lot to consider in the system of alliance war matchmaking algorithm. But, at least, you guys could put a limit code to Not match alliances in different tiers, I mean it's ridiculous. So the opponent is in T2, we are in T3. They get to ban 5 champs, pick one of 3 attack tactics and get more rewards. We get higher health polls, trickier nodes, get to ban 4 champs, only one attack tactic and less rewards. Can't believe this has never been fixed...





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  • DNA3000DNA3000 Member, Guardian Posts: 19,649 Guardian
    I referred this question to one of the developers involved in Alliance War. According to them, if a T2 matches with a T3, the tactics and bans options should be driven by the map they are on, which means whatever you see your opponent should also see (i.e. you're both seeing T2 options or both seeing T3 options. If you feel that this is not the case and you have some evidence for this being different for the two sides, open a ticket with support and include that information in the ticket.
  • DemonzfyreDemonzfyre Member Posts: 22,017 ★★★★★
    As DNA said, one doesn't get an advantage over the other. This has always been the case with these types.of matchups. If the system can't find a match for you within your tier, it expands it's search to the next closest tier. In these cases, the system flips a coin to see what map you'll use. If it chooses your t3 side, then the T2 team gets everything t3. point multiplier and map etc.

    With the new banning system, this will also be copied over. If T3 gets picked, like in your case, the war is T3 for everyone, not just you. This matchup hurts them more than it hurts you.
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  • DemonzfyreDemonzfyre Member Posts: 22,017 ★★★★★
    SunRice said:

    Demonzfyre said:

    As DNA said, one doesn't get an advantage over the other. This has always been the case with these types.of matchups. If the system can't find a match for you within your tier, it expands it's search to the next closest tier. In these cases, the system flips a coin to see what map you'll use. If it chooses your t3 side, then the T2 team gets everything t3. point multiplier and map etc.

    With the new banning system, this will also be copied over. If T3 gets picked, like in your case, the war is T3 for everyone, not just you. This matchup hurts them more than it hurts you.

    The war is T2 for everyone, defense is Conduit 3 and we have 5 champs banned. You're saying they would not get T2 multiplier? Because as I'm concerned we are losing more here.
    You're multiplier on your screenshot says T3.
  • K00shMaanK00shMaan Member Posts: 1,289 ★★★★
    Demonzfyre said:

    SunRice said:

    Demonzfyre said:

    As DNA said, one doesn't get an advantage over the other. This has always been the case with these types.of matchups. If the system can't find a match for you within your tier, it expands it's search to the next closest tier. In these cases, the system flips a coin to see what map you'll use. If it chooses your t3 side, then the T2 team gets everything t3. point multiplier and map etc.

    With the new banning system, this will also be copied over. If T3 gets picked, like in your case, the war is T3 for everyone, not just you. This matchup hurts them more than it hurts you.

    The war is T2 for everyone, defense is Conduit 3 and we have 5 champs banned. You're saying they would not get T2 multiplier? Because as I'm concerned we are losing more here.
    You're multiplier on your screenshot says T3.
    You can't change the multiplier though. That could ruin an alliances season. If an Alliance in Tier 1 is pushing for Masters ended up against a Tier 2 Alliance one War and got less points than their peers for that War through absolutely no fault of their own, that wouldn't be fair to them.
  • Looperdude55Looperdude55 Member Posts: 26 ★
    Plat 4 playing over a 100 mill alliance and we are 65 mill alliance but nothing broken. This game is just screwing players left and right with no sympathy from the higher ups. Would you like that to happen to you kabam miike or Jax I think not
  • K00shMaanK00shMaan Member Posts: 1,289 ★★★★
    Looperdude55 said:

    Plat 4 playing over a 100 mill alliance and we are 65 mill alliance but nothing broken. This game is just screwing players left and right with no sympathy from the higher ups. Would you like that to happen to you kabam miike or Jax I think not

    Alliance Rating is not determined by your success in War. War Rating is and that is why it is used for Matchmaking. I'm not trying to say matchmaking is perfect by any means but using War Rating as the matchmaking criteria is optimal because it is based off of a combination of skill, success, and investment. Alliance Rating only takes investment into consideration.


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