Why does losing in victory track hurt my progress????

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• TheBair123 Member Posts: 5,344 ★★★★★

  November 2022

  Wargames69 said:

  If you ever beat me I’ve reported you

  that is the most counterproductive thing that you can do

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• Furrymoosen Member Posts: 2,734 ★★★★★

  November 2022

  Wargames69 said:

  It makes to sense to lose a victory coin in victory track when the mode is full of cheaters. If you ever beat me I’ve reported you

  So not only are you a big enough jerk to be reporting legitimate players too, but you’re actively loading Kabam with false reports that they now have to fish through to find the real cheaters? And you want the cheaters gone? Yeah, that can only hurt the process. What a way to champion progress…

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• ItsDamien Member Posts: 5,626 ★★★★★

  November 2022

  Ahahaha. Oh my. What a way to end the month. This might be my favourite post in November.

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• TyEdge Member Posts: 3,085 ★★★★★

  November 2022

  This topic is hilarious and awful all at once. With that said,
  
  1) double the number of medals required to progress through each tier
  
  2) award two medals for a win
  
  3) remove one medal for a loss.

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• PapaMidnite007 Member Posts: 1,622 ★★★★

  November 2022

  People like you are the reason why Kabam delays to take action against actual cheaters they have to skim through and do detailed investigation before taking action

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• Buttehrs Member Posts: 5,550 ★★★★★

  November 2022

  Wait, your reporting anyone who ever beats you even if it's a legitimate and fair loss? Either your so entitled it's sad or your that delusional about your own skills. Either way, my God man.

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• willrun4adonut Member Posts: 4,096 ★★★★★

  November 2022

  Maybe he's a mod and he knows can be only defeated by another mod.

  I kid, but just trying to make sense of it.

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• DragonMCOC Member Posts: 528 ★★★

  November 2022

  Do you really think you're that good???? Never expect to lose?

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• Wargames69 Member Posts: 20 ★

  November 2022

  Why should I have to waste days trying to get through victory track and y’all know I’m not the only one who gets salty at a BS loss and boom all my progress gone. It’s not fair

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• zuffy Member Posts: 2,226 ★★★★★

  November 2022

  Definitely someone that don’t think his poop smell.

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• GinjabredMonsta Member, Guardian Posts: 6,479 Guardian

  November 2022 edited November 2022

  Maybe it’s not just people modding that’s your problem

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• shut_up_heather Member Posts: 285 ★★

  November 2022

  Wargames69 said:

  If you ever beat me I’ve reported you

  1. This post made me snort.
  2. You dislike cheaters, but you're the reason Kabam can't fix it faster.
  3. Did you expect to win every VT match? What if, and hear me out here, you simply were outgunned or outskilled? Better to accept defeat than cry cheater.....

  Wargames69 said:

  I’m not the only one who gets salty at a BS loss and boom all my progress gone. It’s not fair

  BS loss meaning against cheaters, or BS loss meaning the ones you can't admit defeat at? There's a difference

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• Kabam Jax Member, Moderator Moderator › Posts: 1,718

  November 2022 edited November 2022

  Thank you to everyone who said it already and, honestly, very respectfully (good for you Summoners!)
  
  But I feel it bears repeating...
  
  Do not report players just because you lose... this slows the manual process of combing through reports to eliminate actual cheaters from the game.
  
  This is a circumstance where we all can't be upset with the length of time it takes to comb through and eliminate cheaters before releasing rewards... but at the same time directly contribute to lengthening that process.
  
  Battlegrounds is a competitive, head to head game mode. I understand it's drastically different to all of MCOC's other game modes where your end result is usually a win, no matter what. Struggling with story content? You can always grind, bulk up, use more items and push through that barrier. But the very nature of BG is that you will lose matches.
  
  Yes, it doesn't feel good to lose to a modder, it's something we're working on, but I hope Summoners aren't hindering the process of attempting to remove those modders because they don't like to lose.

  Post edited by Kabam Jax on November 2022

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• DNA3000 Member, Guardian Posts: 19,292 Guardian

  November 2022

  TyEdge said:

  This topic is hilarious and awful all at once. With that said,
  
  1) double the number of medals required to progress through each tier
  
  2) award two medals for a win
  
  3) remove one medal for a loss.

  First, OP don't report people who aren't actually very obviously cheating. No no no no no. No.
  
  Second, I've suggested something similar but perhaps more directly targeting the trophy-loss psychological hammer. Instead of trophies being awarded binarily, I would do something like this:
  
  If you win 2-0, you get two points (trophies).
  If you win 2-1, you get one point.
  If you lose 1-2, you stay even.
  If you lose 0-2, you lose one point.
  
  This would almost certainly require increasing the number of trophies required to advance track, but probably less than double. Even if you find yourself in a match where you think you're going to lose, there would still be a strong incentive to try to snag at least one win to prevent going backwards, and I think it would soften the blow of losing trophies if it happened less often and there was a way to try to salvage a match.

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• Deepworld Member Posts: 285 ★★★

  November 2022 edited November 2022

  Kabam Jax said:

  Thank you to everyone who said it already and, honestly, very respectfully (good for you Summoners!)
  
  But I feel it bears repeating...
  
  Do not report players just because you lose... this slows the manual process of combing through reports to eliminate actual cheaters from the game.
  
  This is a circumstance where we all can't be upset with the length of time it takes to comb through and eliminate cheaters before releasing rewards... but at the same time directly contribute to lengthening that process.
  
  Battlegrounds is a competitive, head to head game mode. I understand it's drastically different to all of MCOC's other game modes where you're end result is usually a win, no matter what. Struggling with story content? You can always grind, bulk up, use more items and push through that barrier. But the very nature of BG is that you will lose matches.
  
  Yes, it doesn't feel good to lose to a modder, it's something we're working on, but I hope Summoners aren't hindering the process of attempting to remove those modders because they don't like to lose.

  your*

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• DNA3000 Member, Guardian Posts: 19,292 Guardian

  November 2022

  Deepworld said:

  Kabam Jax said:

  Thank you to everyone who said it already and, honestly, very respectfully (good for you Summoners!)
  
  But I feel it bears repeating...
  
  Do not report players just because you lose... this slows the manual process of combing through reports to eliminate actual cheaters from the game.
  
  This is a circumstance where we all can't be upset with the length of time it takes to comb through and eliminate cheaters before releasing rewards... but at the same time directly contribute to lengthening that process.
  
  Battlegrounds is a competitive, head to head game mode. I understand it's drastically different to all of MCOC's other game modes where you're end result is usually a win, no matter what. Struggling with story content? You can always grind, bulk up, use more items and push through that barrier. But the very nature of BG is that you will lose matches.
  
  Yes, it doesn't feel good to lose to a modder, it's something we're working on, but I hope Summoners aren't hindering the process of attempting to remove those modders because they don't like to lose.

  your*

  I am end result as well, and generally a win.

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• Chikel Member Posts: 2,103 ★★★★

  November 2022

  DNA3000 said:

  TyEdge said:

  This topic is hilarious and awful all at once. With that said,
  
  1) double the number of medals required to progress through each tier
  
  2) award two medals for a win
  
  3) remove one medal for a loss.

  First, OP don't report people who aren't actually very obviously cheating. No no no no no. No.
  
  Second, I've suggested something similar but perhaps more directly targeting the trophy-loss psychological hammer. Instead of trophies being awarded binarily, I would do something like this:
  
  If you win 2-0, you get two points (trophies).
  If you win 2-1, you get one point.
  If you lose 1-2, you stay even.
  If you lose 0-2, you lose one point.
  
  This would almost certainly require increasing the number of trophies required to advance track, but probably less than double. Even if you find yourself in a match where you think you're going to lose, there would still be a strong incentive to try to snag at least one win to prevent going backwards, and I think it would soften the blow of losing trophies if it happened less often and there was a way to try to salvage a match.

  This is a good suggestion and something I hope Kabam will implement. Right now, a loss in the victory track especially in the later ranks just feels so punishing.

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• Colinwhitworth69 Member Posts: 7,395 ★★★★★

  November 2022

  Wargames69 said:

  If you ever beat me I’ve reported you

  This has to be at least in the top 10 funniest things I’ve read on this forum.
  
  But I’ve seen funnier.
  
  So you lost again.
  

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• Chobbly Member Posts: 935 ★★★★

  November 2022

  DNA3000 said:

  TyEdge said:

  This topic is hilarious and awful all at once. With that said,
  
  1) double the number of medals required to progress through each tier
  
  2) award two medals for a win
  
  3) remove one medal for a loss.

  First, OP don't report people who aren't actually very obviously cheating. No no no no no. No.
  
  Second, I've suggested something similar but perhaps more directly targeting the trophy-loss psychological hammer. Instead of trophies being awarded binarily, I would do something like this:
  
  If you win 2-0, you get two points (trophies).
  If you win 2-1, you get one point.
  If you lose 1-2, you stay even.
  If you lose 0-2, you lose one point.
  
  This would almost certainly require increasing the number of trophies required to advance track, but probably less than double. Even if you find yourself in a match where you think you're going to lose, there would still be a strong incentive to try to snag at least one win to prevent going backwards, and I think it would soften the blow of losing trophies if it happened less often and there was a way to try to salvage a match.

  This is a fantastic suggestion and one that I hope gets looked at seriously. It would soften the blow of running into a modder or other sandbagger and losing hard-fought effort.

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• AMS94 Member Posts: 1,776 ★★★★★

  December 2022

  IMO ur account should receive at least a temporary ban for reporting genuine players

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• Knullvoid235 Member Posts: 158 ★

  December 2022

  Colinwhitworth69 said:

  Wargames69 said:

  If you ever beat me I’ve reported you

  This has to be at least in the top 10 funniest things I’ve read on this forum.
  
  But I’ve seen funnier.
  
  So you lost again.
  

  Careful now, they might report you

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• Mauled Member, Guardian Posts: 3,957 Guardian

  December 2022

  This has got to be up there with the daftest posts I've seen for a while.
  
  I'd be curious to know if there's going to be a further examination of the structure of BGs, which could potentially make facing modders a little bit less punishing.

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