Its time to do something with the Energy amounts.

Jefechuta · January 2023

I think the time has come, its time to give players more Energy, at least when they reach Thronebreaker and Paragon.

I think its the only thing that hasnt been upgraded yet with all the changes that have been in the game.

We got more ways to get ISO, more Gold, more shards, more resources in general, but not energy.

When you reach TB and Paragon, there's a lot of stuff that you can do, which can be exploring History Mode, EQ, SQ, Variants, and BGs recently, so you will need energy constantly if you want to get a better roster, get resources, maybe reach Paragon if you are TB, or even just exploring because you have Act 4 unexplored and you want to explore it fully, and now its way faster to do, because before the changes you had to do it several times to explore only 1 mission of 1 chapter.

So the point is, 70 energy is not enough anymore for Endgame players, and I think Kabam should add more Energy after you get lvl 60 depending on your progression level.

And I think this is quite fair, most endgame content requires 3 energy per move, even in montly EQ you need at least 2 energy instead of 1 in the first Chapter.

You need 3 energy for Variants, you need 3 energy for Act 6+, so If you have time to play maybe 2 hours a day, you wont be able to almost do anything else than the montly EQ and maybe a couple of runs of a single quest of endgame content.

I think this changes should be put in game asap, I think only for TB and Paragon only, I personally would double it so you can do at least 2 runs a day of a quest in a row.

And about BG's, I would put a different Energy Slot for BGs so it doesnt affect to this mode, as being able to do 5 runs in a row at BG is enough, so i would either put a different Energy slot for BGs like we have for AQ and AW, or make it 30 energy for TB and Paragon, so the Energy changes affect only the Quests and not this mode.

Please Kabam, I hope you read this and you think about it, because I dont think this would affect negatively to you in an economic way, quite the opposite, I think TB and Paragon players will get more revives with units because the worth of them will increase, nowadays I think no one pays 30 units for a Refill unless they are Content Creators, this way people will buy them again.

So @Kabam Miike @Kabam Jax please, think about it, I beg you.

Chikel · January 2023

I have energy wasting and refills expiring. I don't think endgame players are the ones worried about energy

Jefechuta · January 2023

Chikel said:
I have energy wasting and refills expiring. I don't think endgame players are the ones worried about energy

Well, I dont think every TB and Paragon player has Energy and Refills expiring, even more, I think most of them dont

Jefechuta · January 2023

I think all the people that disagree are either not f2p players or they have enough time to play for hours and hours every day.

I think still a made a quite good point about energy, I just hope Kabam people thinks about it

GOTG · January 2023

Jefechuta said:
I think the time has come, its time to give players more Energy, at least when they reach Thronebreaker and Paragon.

I think its the only thing that hasnt been upgraded yet with all the changes that have been in the game.

We got more ways to get ISO, more Gold, more shards, more resources in general, but not energy.

When you reach TB and Paragon, there's a lot of stuff that you can do, which can be exploring History Mode, EQ, SQ, Variants, and BGs recently, so you will need energy constantly if you want to get a better roster, get resources, maybe reach Paragon if you are TB, or even just exploring because you have Act 4 unexplored and you want to explore it fully, and now its way faster to do, because before the changes you had to do it several times to explore only 1 mission of 1 chapter.

So the point is, 70 energy is not enough anymore for Endgame players, and I think Kabam should add more Energy after you get lvl 60 depending on your progression level.

And I think this is quite fair, most endgame content requires 3 energy per move, even in montly EQ you need at least 2 energy instead of 1 in the first Chapter.

You need 3 energy for Variants, you need 3 energy for Act 6+, so If you have time to play maybe 2 hours a day, you wont be able to almost do anything else than the montly EQ and maybe a couple of runs of a single quest of endgame content.

I think this changes should be put in game asap, I think only for TB and Paragon only, I personally would double it so you can do at least 2 runs a day of a quest in a row.

And about BG's, I would put a different Energy Slot for BGs so it doesnt affect to this mode, as being able to do 5 runs in a row at BG is enough, so i would either put a different Energy slot for BGs like we have for AQ and AW, or make it 30 energy for TB and Paragon, so the Energy changes affect only the Quests and not this mode.

Please Kabam, I hope you read this and you think about it, because I dont think this would affect negatively to you in an economic way, quite the opposite, I think TB and Paragon players will get more revives with units because the worth of them will increase, nowadays I think no one pays 30 units for a Refill unless they are Content Creators, this way people will buy them again.

So @Kabam Miike @Kabam Jax please, think about it, I beg you.

It's the opposite to what you said, once you become endgame players you have nothing to do and you don't need energy anymore. I spend my energy to auto get tier 1-3 basic catalyst everyday.

You only need more energy when you are at lower level in the game but that's a thing you need to work for.

Jefechuta · January 2023

GOTG said:

Jefechuta said:
I think the time has come, its time to give players more Energy, at least when they reach Thronebreaker and Paragon.

I think its the only thing that hasnt been upgraded yet with all the changes that have been in the game.

We got more ways to get ISO, more Gold, more shards, more resources in general, but not energy.

When you reach TB and Paragon, there's a lot of stuff that you can do, which can be exploring History Mode, EQ, SQ, Variants, and BGs recently, so you will need energy constantly if you want to get a better roster, get resources, maybe reach Paragon if you are TB, or even just exploring because you have Act 4 unexplored and you want to explore it fully, and now its way faster to do, because before the changes you had to do it several times to explore only 1 mission of 1 chapter.

So the point is, 70 energy is not enough anymore for Endgame players, and I think Kabam should add more Energy after you get lvl 60 depending on your progression level.

And I think this is quite fair, most endgame content requires 3 energy per move, even in montly EQ you need at least 2 energy instead of 1 in the first Chapter.

You need 3 energy for Variants, you need 3 energy for Act 6+, so If you have time to play maybe 2 hours a day, you wont be able to almost do anything else than the montly EQ and maybe a couple of runs of a single quest of endgame content.

I think this changes should be put in game asap, I think only for TB and Paragon only, I personally would double it so you can do at least 2 runs a day of a quest in a row.

And about BG's, I would put a different Energy Slot for BGs so it doesnt affect to this mode, as being able to do 5 runs in a row at BG is enough, so i would either put a different Energy slot for BGs like we have for AQ and AW, or make it 30 energy for TB and Paragon, so the Energy changes affect only the Quests and not this mode.

Please Kabam, I hope you read this and you think about it, because I dont think this would affect negatively to you in an economic way, quite the opposite, I think TB and Paragon players will get more revives with units because the worth of them will increase, nowadays I think no one pays 30 units for a Refill unless they are Content Creators, this way people will buy them again.

So @Kabam Miike @Kabam Jax please, think about it, I beg you.
It's the opposite to what you said, once you become endgame players you have nothing to do and you don't need energy anymore. I spend my energy to auto get tier 1-3 basic catalyst everyday.

You only need more energy when you are at lower level in the game but that's a thing you need to work for.

With Endgame player Im refering to players that do either the last content avaible or the "hardest" one, thats why I put TBs on the group aswell.

I just have a couple of hours a day to really play, and I get that 70 energys on only one run of a quest which takes me maybe 15 minutes max, so i have 1h and 45m left to play either BGs with Elder Marks or Arenas or AQ or AW.

Im pretty sure that getting more energy for TB and Paragons is a very good improve

Pikolu · January 2023

I'd be down for more energy, means I get more energy to farm revives with for this upcoming EoP, Gauntlet, and Carina challenges. After that then it can just sit and do nothing for me like usual.

solopolo · January 2023

Me sitting here with 1k+ elder marks (none of which I bought), all monthly content done and scratching my head at what to do with my energy now. Can't wait for the new EQ difficulty.

Jefechuta · January 2023

GOTG said:

Jefechuta said:
I think the time has come, its time to give players more Energy, at least when they reach Thronebreaker and Paragon.

I think its the only thing that hasnt been upgraded yet with all the changes that have been in the game.

We got more ways to get ISO, more Gold, more shards, more resources in general, but not energy.

When you reach TB and Paragon, there's a lot of stuff that you can do, which can be exploring History Mode, EQ, SQ, Variants, and BGs recently, so you will need energy constantly if you want to get a better roster, get resources, maybe reach Paragon if you are TB, or even just exploring because you have Act 4 unexplored and you want to explore it fully, and now its way faster to do, because before the changes you had to do it several times to explore only 1 mission of 1 chapter.

So the point is, 70 energy is not enough anymore for Endgame players, and I think Kabam should add more Energy after you get lvl 60 depending on your progression level.

And I think this is quite fair, most endgame content requires 3 energy per move, even in montly EQ you need at least 2 energy instead of 1 in the first Chapter.

You need 3 energy for Variants, you need 3 energy for Act 6+, so If you have time to play maybe 2 hours a day, you wont be able to almost do anything else than the montly EQ and maybe a couple of runs of a single quest of endgame content.

I think this changes should be put in game asap, I think only for TB and Paragon only, I personally would double it so you can do at least 2 runs a day of a quest in a row.

And about BG's, I would put a different Energy Slot for BGs so it doesnt affect to this mode, as being able to do 5 runs in a row at BG is enough, so i would either put a different Energy slot for BGs like we have for AQ and AW, or make it 30 energy for TB and Paragon, so the Energy changes affect only the Quests and not this mode.

Please Kabam, I hope you read this and you think about it, because I dont think this would affect negatively to you in an economic way, quite the opposite, I think TB and Paragon players will get more revives with units because the worth of them will increase, nowadays I think no one pays 30 units for a Refill unless they are Content Creators, this way people will buy them again.

So @Kabam Miike @Kabam Jax please, think about it, I beg you.
It's the opposite to what you said, once you become endgame players you have nothing to do and you don't need energy anymore. I spend my energy to auto get tier 1-3 basic catalyst everyday.

You only need more energy when you are at lower level in the game but that's a thing you need to work for.

When I talk about Endgame players Im refering to players that do either the last content avaible or the "hardest" one.

Thats why I put TB in the post aswell, players doing Act 7 or Act 8, or starting to explore Act 6 because they are getting the needed champs for some nodes wont have enough energy.

And if you are an Endgame players this change wont affect you, because you will already have enough energy anyway, but will make people that cant play every time they have their Energy full to be able to just do some runs in a row instead of 1 every X hours.

I dont think its a bad change

Jefechuta · January 2023

SlayinAlive said:
4 hour crystals give full energy refills brotha

I only get gold and health potions fam

solopolo · January 2023

There is no need to increase energy. Understand that you have more than enough energy to complete all monthly content and progress through permanent content faster than it gets released, even with bgs you can manage this. If they were to increase the energy cap, we'd simply have even more people sitting around with nothing to do waiting for the next piece of content to be released, putting more pressure on kabam to increase the pace, overwhelming lower level players who may not have as much time on their hands.

Jefechuta · January 2023

solopolo said:
There is no need to increase energy. Understand that you have more than enough energy to complete all monthly content and progress through permanent content faster than it gets released, even with bgs you can manage this. If they were to increase the energy cap, we'd simply have even more people sitting around with nothing to do waiting for the next piece of content to be released, putting more pressure on kabam to increase the pace, overwhelming lower level players who may not have as much time on their hands.

For exploring an EQ with only 1 difficulty you need 30 runs, 13 being 3 energy per move, 17 being with 2 per move, so you will need 20-21 full energys to do ONLY 1 difficulty of the EQ, yes, you have Energy Refills, but you have to think about bad runs aswell, maybe you do a run and one of the current bugs or problems of the game affect you so you have to restart the run, and you have to do SQ aswell, and keep playing the other content aswell, so you will maybe be able to do 5 runs a month of permanent content, so I still think an upgrade on the energy is needed for TB and Paragon

Demonzfyre · January 2023

I agree. Definitely need to do something about energy.

houndogακι · January 2023

Paragon free 4h crystal gives a lot of full energy refills also

solopolo · January 2023

Jefechuta said:

solopolo said:
There is no need to increase energy. Understand that you have more than enough energy to complete all monthly content and progress through permanent content faster than it gets released, even with bgs you can manage this. If they were to increase the energy cap, we'd simply have even more people sitting around with nothing to do waiting for the next piece of content to be released, putting more pressure on kabam to increase the pace, overwhelming lower level players who may not have as much time on their hands.
For exploring an EQ with only 1 difficulty you need 30 runs, 13 being 3 energy per move, 17 being with 2 per move, so you will need 20-21 full energys to do ONLY 1 difficulty of the EQ, yes, you have Energy Refills, but you have to think about bad runs aswell, maybe you do a run and one of the current bugs or problems of the game affect you so you have to restart the run, and you have to do SQ aswell, and keep playing the other content aswell, so you will maybe be able to do 5 runs a month of permanent content, so I still think an upgrade on the energy is needed for TB and Paragon

I regularly do 1 run through every single EQ difficulty and fully explore Cav, UC, Master difficulties every single month, and fully complete all side quests. November I cleared 2 variants and hit GC in bgs without spending any units on elder marks. Last month I cleared all 4 chapters of act 7 and hit paragon. This month I'm running through 8.1 and starting act 7 exploration just because I have nothing else to dump energy into until the next monthly content drops. I've spent maybe 200 units on energy refills over the past 6 months. There is zero need for an energy increase.

Jefechuta · January 2023

houndogακι said:
Paragon free 4h crystal gives a lot of full energy refills also

solopolo said:

Jefechuta said:

solopolo said:
There is no need to increase energy. Understand that you have more than enough energy to complete all monthly content and progress through permanent content faster than it gets released, even with bgs you can manage this. If they were to increase the energy cap, we'd simply have even more people sitting around with nothing to do waiting for the next piece of content to be released, putting more pressure on kabam to increase the pace, overwhelming lower level players who may not have as much time on their hands.
For exploring an EQ with only 1 difficulty you need 30 runs, 13 being 3 energy per move, 17 being with 2 per move, so you will need 20-21 full energys to do ONLY 1 difficulty of the EQ, yes, you have Energy Refills, but you have to think about bad runs aswell, maybe you do a run and one of the current bugs or problems of the game affect you so you have to restart the run, and you have to do SQ aswell, and keep playing the other content aswell, so you will maybe be able to do 5 runs a month of permanent content, so I still think an upgrade on the energy is needed for TB and Paragon
I regularly do 1 run through every single EQ difficulty and fully explore Cav, UC, Master difficulties every single month, and fully complete all side quests. November I cleared 2 variants and hit GC in bgs without spending any units on elder marks. Last month I cleared all 4 chapters of act 7 and hit paragon. This month I'm running through 8.1 and starting act 7 exploration just because I have nothing else to dump energy into until the next monthly content drops. I've spent maybe 200 units on energy refills over the past 6 months. There is zero need for an energy increase.

I repeat, a lot of people dont have time to play multiple times a day so they can use that 70 energy twice a day or even three times.

And TBs have no refills on the 4h Crystal.

Chikel · January 2023

solopolo said:
Me sitting here with 1k+ elder marks (none of which I bought), all monthly content done and scratching my head at what to do with my energy now. Can't wait for the new EQ difficulty.

Same with me. I'm burning energy in BGs instead if using elder marks to advance faster in these easy stages

solopolo · January 2023

Jefechuta said:

houndogακι said:
Paragon free 4h crystal gives a lot of full energy refills also

solopolo said:

Jefechuta said:

solopolo said:
There is no need to increase energy. Understand that you have more than enough energy to complete all monthly content and progress through permanent content faster than it gets released, even with bgs you can manage this. If they were to increase the energy cap, we'd simply have even more people sitting around with nothing to do waiting for the next piece of content to be released, putting more pressure on kabam to increase the pace, overwhelming lower level players who may not have as much time on their hands.
For exploring an EQ with only 1 difficulty you need 30 runs, 13 being 3 energy per move, 17 being with 2 per move, so you will need 20-21 full energys to do ONLY 1 difficulty of the EQ, yes, you have Energy Refills, but you have to think about bad runs aswell, maybe you do a run and one of the current bugs or problems of the game affect you so you have to restart the run, and you have to do SQ aswell, and keep playing the other content aswell, so you will maybe be able to do 5 runs a month of permanent content, so I still think an upgrade on the energy is needed for TB and Paragon
I regularly do 1 run through every single EQ difficulty and fully explore Cav, UC, Master difficulties every single month, and fully complete all side quests. November I cleared 2 variants and hit GC in bgs without spending any units on elder marks. Last month I cleared all 4 chapters of act 7 and hit paragon. This month I'm running through 8.1 and starting act 7 exploration just because I have nothing else to dump energy into until the next monthly content drops. I've spent maybe 200 units on energy refills over the past 6 months. There is zero need for an energy increase.
I repeat, a lot of people dont have time to play multiple times a day so they can use that 70 energy twice a day or even three times.

And TBs have no refills on the 4h Crystal.

It takes 7 hours to fully refill your energy bar. Do you not have enough time to login for up to 30mins 3 times a day?

Jefechuta · January 2023

solopolo said:

Jefechuta said:

houndogακι said:
Paragon free 4h crystal gives a lot of full energy refills also

solopolo said:

Jefechuta said:

solopolo said:
There is no need to increase energy. Understand that you have more than enough energy to complete all monthly content and progress through permanent content faster than it gets released, even with bgs you can manage this. If they were to increase the energy cap, we'd simply have even more people sitting around with nothing to do waiting for the next piece of content to be released, putting more pressure on kabam to increase the pace, overwhelming lower level players who may not have as much time on their hands.
For exploring an EQ with only 1 difficulty you need 30 runs, 13 being 3 energy per move, 17 being with 2 per move, so you will need 20-21 full energys to do ONLY 1 difficulty of the EQ, yes, you have Energy Refills, but you have to think about bad runs aswell, maybe you do a run and one of the current bugs or problems of the game affect you so you have to restart the run, and you have to do SQ aswell, and keep playing the other content aswell, so you will maybe be able to do 5 runs a month of permanent content, so I still think an upgrade on the energy is needed for TB and Paragon
I regularly do 1 run through every single EQ difficulty and fully explore Cav, UC, Master difficulties every single month, and fully complete all side quests. November I cleared 2 variants and hit GC in bgs without spending any units on elder marks. Last month I cleared all 4 chapters of act 7 and hit paragon. This month I'm running through 8.1 and starting act 7 exploration just because I have nothing else to dump energy into until the next monthly content drops. I've spent maybe 200 units on energy refills over the past 6 months. There is zero need for an energy increase.
I repeat, a lot of people dont have time to play multiple times a day so they can use that 70 energy twice a day or even three times.

And TBs have no refills on the 4h Crystal.

It takes 7 hours to fully refill your energy bar. Do you not have enough time to login for up to 30mins 3 times a day?

A lot of people doesnt have that time, if you work as soon as you wake up, and after work you have to do stuff at home or shopping or you just have to drive home, you will have maybe 4 hours left to play, which will not be enough to do even 2 runs

solopolo · January 2023

Jefechuta said:

solopolo said:

Jefechuta said:

houndogακι said:
Paragon free 4h crystal gives a lot of full energy refills also

solopolo said:

Jefechuta said:

solopolo said:
There is no need to increase energy. Understand that you have more than enough energy to complete all monthly content and progress through permanent content faster than it gets released, even with bgs you can manage this. If they were to increase the energy cap, we'd simply have even more people sitting around with nothing to do waiting for the next piece of content to be released, putting more pressure on kabam to increase the pace, overwhelming lower level players who may not have as much time on their hands.
For exploring an EQ with only 1 difficulty you need 30 runs, 13 being 3 energy per move, 17 being with 2 per move, so you will need 20-21 full energys to do ONLY 1 difficulty of the EQ, yes, you have Energy Refills, but you have to think about bad runs aswell, maybe you do a run and one of the current bugs or problems of the game affect you so you have to restart the run, and you have to do SQ aswell, and keep playing the other content aswell, so you will maybe be able to do 5 runs a month of permanent content, so I still think an upgrade on the energy is needed for TB and Paragon
I regularly do 1 run through every single EQ difficulty and fully explore Cav, UC, Master difficulties every single month, and fully complete all side quests. November I cleared 2 variants and hit GC in bgs without spending any units on elder marks. Last month I cleared all 4 chapters of act 7 and hit paragon. This month I'm running through 8.1 and starting act 7 exploration just because I have nothing else to dump energy into until the next monthly content drops. I've spent maybe 200 units on energy refills over the past 6 months. There is zero need for an energy increase.
I repeat, a lot of people dont have time to play multiple times a day so they can use that 70 energy twice a day or even three times.

And TBs have no refills on the 4h Crystal.

It takes 7 hours to fully refill your energy bar. Do you not have enough time to login for up to 30mins 3 times a day?
A lot of people doesnt have that time, if you work as soon as you wake up, and after work you have to do stuff at home or shopping or you just have to drive home, you will have maybe 4 hours left to play, which will not be enough to do even 2 runs

Then it may be time you picked another game. Believe it or not, time investment is a requirement in MCoC. If you can't put in the time, that's on you. No one is forced to cater to your inability to put sufficient effort into a game.

Maverick75 · January 2023

Agree on the original post, except on one point: Cavaliers also need something about energy.
As a Paragorn, I confirm the need of more energy: monthly quest, secondary quest, battlegrounds.

Nevertheless remember that the sigil allows to get energy faster, so that’s a part of the economy of the game.

By reading all the posts here, why not to increase the cap to, let’s say, 100?
It could help a bit the players that can’t connect the morning and/or on the lunch time. It means 1 3-energy move path and 2 battlegrounds.
And it doesn’t really change a lot the economy in the game.
For the players that have more than enough, are they bother with such an increase? No.

Jefechuta · January 2023

Maverick75 said:
Agree on the original post, except on one point: Cavaliers also need something about energy.
As a Paragorn, I confirm the need of more energy: monthly quest, secondary quest, battlegrounds.

Nevertheless remember that the sigil allows to get energy faster, so that’s a part of the economy of the game.

By reading all the posts here, why not to increase the cap to, let’s say, 100?
It could help a bit the players that can’t connect the morning and/or on the lunch time. It means 1 3-energy move path and 2 battlegrounds.
And it doesn’t really change a lot the economy in the game.
For the players that have more than enough, are they bother with such an increase? No.

Actually 100 would be quite perfect, Im about to be Paragon, I have 1 R4 left so maybe when I get refills out of 4H Crystal I change my mind, but at TB at least, you are in a constant lack of energy

Just_Frank2022 · January 2023

I'd like to see that energy not be used on paths already travelled in story quests, same as it is in AQ and AW would make exploration of story content just a little bit easier.

Demonzfyre · January 2023

Meanwhile, I've gained 3 more full energy refills since this thread started.

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Jefechuta · January 2023

Then Ill just rush that last R4 to get Paragon, cause at TB Im out of energy pretty soon

Shadowstrike · January 2023

Jefechuta said:
I think all the people that disagree are either not f2p players or they have enough time to play for hours and hours every day.

I think still a made a quite good point about energy, I just hope Kabam people thinks about it

But this is like the argument of gold or ISO or catalysts or anything else in the game. Not everyone's going through the same drought that you're going through.

I'm not saying it dismisses your argument completely but I'm simply pointing out the fact that the resources are there, you're just not getting them and it's not specifically a free to play issue more than it is a participation issue.

As others have pointed out you can get free energy refills from Alliance events, Arena grinds, or weekly Rewards, so again, it's not a free to play issue if the stuff is out there, you're just not either getting them or you're not managing your resources more effectively.

Jefechuta · January 2023

Curious that everyone right now is talking about the energy problem, I might be right ah?

Captainaiden · January 2023

From this post, i would said 9 out of 10 people are energetic.

No problem here

Shiroihara · January 2023

According to something a mod told me on a past thread, the limitation in the amount of energy was intentionally designed that way so we would have a good life / gaming balance.
If you believe that, you'll believe anything.

Demonzfyre · January 2023

Jefechuta said:
Curious that everyone right now is talking about the energy problem, I might be right ah?

because for some reason they think they're required to do all difficulty levels for some reason.

Its time to do something with the Energy amounts.

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