energy management issue

hdsjskskskhdsjsksksk Member Posts: 216
70 energy is super low as compared to content in the game monthly event side quest bg and revive farming . 2 solutions increase energy cap or reduce time to 2m
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  • GiuliameijGiuliameij Member Posts: 1,849 ★★★★
    Revive Farming is a choice. If you really need to farm that much you might be doing content that is not appropriate to your skilllevel.
    Still.
    Energy requirement seems to have increased slightly since they put the sigil in the game. Which gives you quicker energy refreshing. And with battlegrounds, the demand has increased even more.
    If they ever did rework the mastery system it might be nice to include a mastery that decreases the energy time by a certain number each time you defeat an enemy in a mode that costs energy.
    So you can boost the energy you gain just like the experience masteries increase the amount of exp you get for each fight.
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  • IvarTheBonelessIvarTheBoneless Member Posts: 1,276 ★★★★

    Revive Farming is a choice. If you really need to farm that much you might be doing content that is not appropriate to your skilllevel.
    Still.
    Energy requirement seems to have increased slightly since they put the sigil in the game. Which gives you quicker energy refreshing. And with battlegrounds, the demand has increased even more.
    If they ever did rework the mastery system it might be nice to include a mastery that decreases the energy time by a certain number each time you defeat an enemy in a mode that costs energy.
    So you can boost the energy you gain just like the experience masteries increase the amount of exp you get for each fight.

    Just saying that for some revive farming isnt a choice. I have 100% all content in game except abyss and carinas challenges. Thos are impossible to do itemless (unless you're swedeah). So I need to farm revives all while completing TB eq, side quest and battelgrounds pushing.
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  • K00shMaanK00shMaan Member Posts: 1,289 ★★★★
    The should be enough energy in the game to do all the content each month. However, that should include being in part of an Alliance and opening your free crystals to get that extra energy. Although revive farming is something obviously lots of us do, I think it's fine that the energy spent doing that means that some other things don't get completed. In general though I think the lower difficulties of EQ should have their energy requirement retuned to be more consistent with the rewards they offer.
  • IvarTheBonelessIvarTheBoneless Member Posts: 1,276 ★★★★
    A_Fungi said:

    Revive Farming is a choice. If you really need to farm that much you might be doing content that is not appropriate to your skilllevel.
    Still.
    Energy requirement seems to have increased slightly since they put the sigil in the game. Which gives you quicker energy refreshing. And with battlegrounds, the demand has increased even more.
    If they ever did rework the mastery system it might be nice to include a mastery that decreases the energy time by a certain number each time you defeat an enemy in a mode that costs energy.
    So you can boost the energy you gain just like the experience masteries increase the amount of exp you get for each fight.

    Just saying that for some revive farming isnt a choice. I have 100% all content in game except abyss and carinas challenges. Thos are impossible to do itemless (unless you're swedeah). So I need to farm revives all while completing TB eq, side quest and battelgrounds pushing.
    You know, you can use units for revives.
    Ah yes the good feeling of having zero units for july 4 deals, I'm familiar.
  • JefechutaJefechuta Member Posts: 1,212 ★★★★
    Ghost_Fan said:

    Kabam Jax said:

    Hey Summoners,

    Let's chat energy usage..

    I understand that many Summoners (myself included) want to save units for crystals and champ rolls, but hoarding units instead of using them for revives/potions/energy refills creates a self-imposed knock-on effect of feeling like you have even less energy.

    Many people hoard units for the cyber weekend offers etc. Not for just champion crystals.
    You can't say it's a self imposed knock-off from the moment that you add more and more 'annual' offers.
    We have 4th of July, Cyber Weekend, Spring Cleaning and 1 more event I think. And you are gonna get more value out of your units if you spend them there.
    Yeah, and Kabam wants you to buy the units, not farm them, because it is a company that exists to make money lmao.
  • Ghost_FanGhost_Fan Member Posts: 273 ★★★
    OGAvenger said:

    Ghost_Fan said:

    Kabam Jax said:

    Hey Summoners,

    Let's chat energy usage..

    I understand that many Summoners (myself included) want to save units for crystals and champ rolls, but hoarding units instead of using them for revives/potions/energy refills creates a self-imposed knock-on effect of feeling like you have even less energy.

    Many people hoard units for the cyber weekend offers etc. Not for just champion crystals.
    You can't say it's a self imposed knock-off from the moment that you add more and more 'annual' offers.
    We have 4th of July, Cyber Weekend, Spring Cleaning and 1 more event I think. And you are gonna get more value out of your units if you spend them there.
    I think that’s exactly what he means by a self imposed knock off. You’re choosing to hoard units for specials events instead of using them to grab energy refills. Therefore, now you feel like you don’t have enough energy to complete all available content
    I think I didn't phrase it well enough. It's something that I choose to do but it's not something that I choose. These offers have so much better rewards comparing to other aspects of the game, that the units 'worth' more if they are spent there.

    I think you could choose a specific champion in the last couple of these events. You can't do this anywhere else in the game. So you are practically forced to hoard your units for this type of events.
  • K00shMaanK00shMaan Member Posts: 1,289 ★★★★
    Ghost_Fan said:

    OGAvenger said:

    Ghost_Fan said:

    Kabam Jax said:

    Hey Summoners,

    Let's chat energy usage..

    I understand that many Summoners (myself included) want to save units for crystals and champ rolls, but hoarding units instead of using them for revives/potions/energy refills creates a self-imposed knock-on effect of feeling like you have even less energy.

    Many people hoard units for the cyber weekend offers etc. Not for just champion crystals.
    You can't say it's a self imposed knock-off from the moment that you add more and more 'annual' offers.
    We have 4th of July, Cyber Weekend, Spring Cleaning and 1 more event I think. And you are gonna get more value out of your units if you spend them there.
    I think that’s exactly what he means by a self imposed knock off. You’re choosing to hoard units for specials events instead of using them to grab energy refills. Therefore, now you feel like you don’t have enough energy to complete all available content
    I think I didn't phrase it well enough. It's something that I choose to do but it's not something that I choose. These offers have so much better rewards comparing to other aspects of the game, that the units 'worth' more if they are spent there.

    I think you could choose a specific champion in the last couple of these events. You can't do this anywhere else in the game. So you are practically forced to hoard your units for this type of events.
    Yeah but that's all part of resource management which is a vital part of this game. If buying energy refills along the way to complete additional content isn't providing a net benefit then you should do different content in the game. Fully exploring the lower EQs is something I did in December when BG's and revive farming didn't make sense. But this month it's different and I'm funneling energy towards those things. Decisions to do some things and not others is part of what makes the game interesting and allows people to progress in different ways.
  • jaythekidjaythekid Member Posts: 53
    Though I don't do all monthly content I see hitting 0 energy as time to get off the game and do something else or grind arena if I have the time.
  • SummonerNRSummonerNR Member, Guardian Posts: 12,770 Guardian
    How about this (of course you are not gonna like it).
    Since you have already explored those paths in ACT 3 (or wherever), how about Kabam remove the “re-spawning” ability of items along paths that have already been completed.

    If you are choosing to use all your energy on “otherwise unnecessary quests” just to get some additional revives or such, of course you are not gonna have enough energy to do other things.

    Or you could also “farm” for Units instead (Arena, lower EQ quests, etc), and then use those farmed Units to buy those much-wanted Revives (as Jax also mentioned).
  • CoppinCoppin Member Posts: 2,601 ★★★★★
    Ghost_Fan said:

    Kabam Jax said:

    Hey Summoners,

    Let's chat energy usage..

    I understand that many Summoners (myself included) want to save units for crystals and champ rolls, but hoarding units instead of using them for revives/potions/energy refills creates a self-imposed knock-on effect of feeling like you have even less energy.

    Many people hoard units for the cyber weekend offers etc. Not for just champion crystals.
    You can't say it's a self imposed knock-off from the moment that you add more and more 'annual' offers.
    We have 4th of July, Cyber Weekend, Spring Cleaning and 1 more event I think. And you are gonna get more value out of your units if you spend them there.
    Exactly the better value is a decision u make..
    Now did u ever do a math on the "better value" compared to doing all the content that benefits u?...
    The game is free to play.. not free to benefit from everything... Buying energy refills is part of it...
    Yes with a new difficulty of EQ, SQ and BGs the energy is a bit tight.. but there are also benefits from it...
  • CoppinCoppin Member Posts: 2,601 ★★★★★
    Kabam Jax said:




    Furthermore, and this is the biggest one (even if Summoners don't like to hear it), there is an abundance of free-to-access units in the game. They are provided to allow Summoners to buy things like revives and potions and energy refills.

    As much as I agree on most of your points...
    It has been a constant that when a new EQ difficulty level appears.. then 2nd highest lvl of difficulty has units... Shouldn't Cav have units as reward with the new TB?
  • JefechutaJefechuta Member Posts: 1,212 ★★★★
    Ghost_Fan said:

    Jefechuta said:

    Ghost_Fan said:

    Kabam Jax said:

    Hey Summoners,

    Let's chat energy usage..

    I understand that many Summoners (myself included) want to save units for crystals and champ rolls, but hoarding units instead of using them for revives/potions/energy refills creates a self-imposed knock-on effect of feeling like you have even less energy.

    Many people hoard units for the cyber weekend offers etc. Not for just champion crystals.
    You can't say it's a self imposed knock-off from the moment that you add more and more 'annual' offers.
    We have 4th of July, Cyber Weekend, Spring Cleaning and 1 more event I think. And you are gonna get more value out of your units if you spend them there.
    Yeah, and Kabam wants you to buy the units, not farm them, because it is a company that exists to make money lmao.
    Yeah I get it but Jax also said this:
    Kabam Jax said:


    Furthermore, and this is the biggest one (even if Summoners don't like to hear it), there is an abundance of free-to-access units in the game. They are provided to allow Summoners to buy things like revives and potions and energy refills.

    Abundance is an overstatement to say the least but meh
    You can get units infinitely on arenas by getting battlechips lol
  • JefechutaJefechuta Member Posts: 1,212 ★★★★
    edited January 2023

    Jefechuta said:

    Jefechuta said:

    Ghost_Fan said:

    Kabam Jax said:

    Hey Summoners,

    Let's chat energy usage..

    I understand that many Summoners (myself included) want to save units for crystals and champ rolls, but hoarding units instead of using them for revives/potions/energy refills creates a self-imposed knock-on effect of feeling like you have even less energy.

    Many people hoard units for the cyber weekend offers etc. Not for just champion crystals.
    You can't say it's a self imposed knock-off from the moment that you add more and more 'annual' offers.
    We have 4th of July, Cyber Weekend, Spring Cleaning and 1 more event I think. And you are gonna get more value out of your units if you spend them there.
    Yeah, and Kabam wants you to buy the units, not farm them, because it is a company that exists to make money lmao.
    Psssssttt. Kabam is the developer. They don't make money off your purchase, Netmarble does.
    Another pointless comment of my fam Demonzfyre
    [removed]
    Companies want you to spend, thats why they exist, not because they want you to have fun, lmao, basic economics fam
  • Ghost_FanGhost_Fan Member Posts: 273 ★★★
    edited January 2023
    Jefechuta said:

    Ghost_Fan said:

    Jefechuta said:

    Ghost_Fan said:

    Kabam Jax said:

    Hey Summoners,

    Let's chat energy usage..

    I understand that many Summoners (myself included) want to save units for crystals and champ rolls, but hoarding units instead of using them for revives/potions/energy refills creates a self-imposed knock-on effect of feeling like you have even less energy.

    Many people hoard units for the cyber weekend offers etc. Not for just champion crystals.
    You can't say it's a self imposed knock-off from the moment that you add more and more 'annual' offers.
    We have 4th of July, Cyber Weekend, Spring Cleaning and 1 more event I think. And you are gonna get more value out of your units if you spend them there.
    Yeah, and Kabam wants you to buy the units, not farm them, because it is a company that exists to make money lmao.
    Yeah I get it but Jax also said this:
    Kabam Jax said:


    Furthermore, and this is the biggest one (even if Summoners don't like to hear it), there is an abundance of free-to-access units in the game. They are provided to allow Summoners to buy things like revives and potions and energy refills.

    Abundance is an overstatement to say the least but meh
    You can get units infinitely on arenas by getting battlechips lol
    Theoretically? Yes. Practically? No. If of course you value your life
  • Ghost_FanGhost_Fan Member Posts: 273 ★★★
    Coppin said:

    Ghost_Fan said:

    Kabam Jax said:

    Hey Summoners,

    Let's chat energy usage..

    I understand that many Summoners (myself included) want to save units for crystals and champ rolls, but hoarding units instead of using them for revives/potions/energy refills creates a self-imposed knock-on effect of feeling like you have even less energy.

    Many people hoard units for the cyber weekend offers etc. Not for just champion crystals.
    You can't say it's a self imposed knock-off from the moment that you add more and more 'annual' offers.
    We have 4th of July, Cyber Weekend, Spring Cleaning and 1 more event I think. And you are gonna get more value out of your units if you spend them there.
    Exactly the better value is a decision u make..
    Now did u ever do a math on the "better value" compared to doing all the content that benefits u?...
    The game is free to play.. not free to benefit from everything... Buying energy refills is part of it...
    Yes with a new difficulty of EQ, SQ and BGs the energy is a bit tight.. but there are also benefits from it...
    No I haven't done the math. But when you can choose Hercules from these offers and you can't get him from all the content you've being doing then to my eyes (and to most I would imagine) these offers are a far better value.

    Buying energy refills is a part of the game, I do agree. Or at least was. As the time goes on, better offers appear and it makes more sense hoarding your units for these offers.

    There is no content at the moment in-game that lets you choose a specific champion. The closest thing is the abyss crystal. But again with that crystal there is a chance to get the champ you are after, it's not guaranteed.
  • SirGamesBondSirGamesBond Member Posts: 5,151 ★★★★★
    Can kabam bring down energy in normal difficulty EQ? EQs are just too Big atm
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