Please fix Battlegrounds matchmaking

CucumbererCucumberer Member Posts: 16 ★
edited February 2023 in Suggestions and Requests
I have been getting matched up with accounts with much higher rating top champs than I have, with the opponent often having multiple ranked 6 stars while I only have one at rank 1. I feel like it was much better when the matchmaking was based on Champion Deck rating. Its unfair for accounts like mine with a majority of bulk in ranked 3 and 4 stars while all my opponents have top shelf 6 stars and basically nothing else.
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  • CucumbererCucumberer Member Posts: 16 ★
    I think there should be certain thresholds like in Incursions, where say if you have over X (maybe 4 or 5) amount of 6 stars then you get matched with only people in or around that bracket.

    Ive actually come across opponents with 8 or 9 6* champions just not fully levelled but from a progression point that doesn't seem fair at all.
  • PikokPikok Member Posts: 156 ★★
    edited February 2023
    Cucumberer said:

    I have been getting matched up with accounts with much higher rating top champs than I have, with the opponent often having multiple ranked 6 stars while I only have one at rank 1. I feel like it was much better when the matchmaking was based on Champion Deck rating. Its unfair for accounts like mine with a majority of bulk in ranked 3 and 4 stars while all my opponents have top shelf 6 stars and basically nothing else.

    It is impossible what you are writting here. Matchmaking is based on prestige and if you are having one 6star rank 1 you will not face opponents like you described.
    Based on my expierience: 16100 prestige and 2.8mil hero rating and my avarage opponents have 16500 prestige and 3,3mil hero rating.

    Check your opponents prestige and yours. Should be similar
  • CucumbererCucumberer Member Posts: 16 ★
    Pikok said:

    Cucumberer said:

    I have been getting matched up with accounts with much higher rating top champs than I have, with the opponent often having multiple ranked 6 stars while I only have one at rank 1. I feel like it was much better when the matchmaking was based on Champion Deck rating. Its unfair for accounts like mine with a majority of bulk in ranked 3 and 4 stars while all my opponents have top shelf 6 stars and basically nothing else.

    It is impossible what you are writting here. Matchmaking is based on prestige and if you are having one 6star rank 1 you will not face opponents like you described.
    Based on my expierience: 16100 prestige and 2.8mil hero rating and my avarage opponents have 16500 prestige and 3,3mil hero rating.

    Check your opponents prestige and yours. Should be similar
    Its not Impossible, its happening. While yes there have been some matches where the prestige is only 400~ off of mine (5,400k), Ive also been matched up with people as high as 6,800k and likely higher. It doesnt seem fair that someone can have a rank 2 6 star and other rank 1's on their account and they can still be matched up with mine (I dont even have a R5 5*) because our Base Hero Rating is similar, 250k (me) to 220k (them). It really is not fair matchmaking and definitely isnt only based on Prestige
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  • Ngoalong711Ngoalong711 Member Posts: 314 ★★
    Cucumberer said:

    I have been getting matched up with accounts with much higher rating top champs than I have, with the opponent often having multiple ranked 6 stars while I only have one at rank 1. I feel like it was much better when the matchmaking was based on Champion Deck rating. Its unfair for accounts like mine with a majority of bulk in ranked 3 and 4 stars while all my opponents have top shelf 6 stars and basically nothing else.

    based on champion deck rating? hell no. that would even worse because of sandbagging
  • A_FungiA_Fungi Member Posts: 999 ★★★★
    Halpy said:

    Pikok said:

    Cucumberer said:

    I have been getting matched up with accounts with much higher rating top champs than I have, with the opponent often having multiple ranked 6 stars while I only have one at rank 1. I feel like it was much better when the matchmaking was based on Champion Deck rating. Its unfair for accounts like mine with a majority of bulk in ranked 3 and 4 stars while all my opponents have top shelf 6 stars and basically nothing else.

    It is impossible what you are writting here. Matchmaking is based on prestige and if you are having one 6star rank 1 you will not face opponents like you described.
    Based on my expierience: 16100 prestige and 2.8mil hero rating and my avarage opponents have 16500 prestige and 3,3mil hero rating.

    Check your opponents prestige and yours. Should be similar
    It is not based on prestige anymore. Theyve changed it
    Changed it to what?
  • CucumbererCucumberer Member Posts: 16 ★
    Ngoalong711 said:

    Cucumberer said:

    I have been getting matched up with accounts with much higher rating top champs than I have, with the opponent often having multiple ranked 6 stars while I only have one at rank 1. I feel like it was much better when the matchmaking was based on Champion Deck rating. Its unfair for accounts like mine with a majority of bulk in ranked 3 and 4 stars while all my opponents have top shelf 6 stars and basically nothing else.

    based on champion deck rating? hell no. that would even worse because of sandbagging
    Read my second comment. I'm not saying just go back to the old way, but in comparison I think deck rating is better than what it is now.

    If we have a system that groups people based on thresholds like X amount of 6's or X amount of Rank 5 5*'s.

    Otherwise accounts will continue to be unfairly matched based on Base Hero Rating, because like myself long term players have many many levelled and duped 3 and 4 stars that drastically inflate BHR and I end up getting matched with Whales or people who got lucky during Gifting events
  • CucumbererCucumberer Member Posts: 16 ★
    A_Fungi said:

    Halpy said:

    Pikok said:

    Cucumberer said:

    I have been getting matched up with accounts with much higher rating top champs than I have, with the opponent often having multiple ranked 6 stars while I only have one at rank 1. I feel like it was much better when the matchmaking was based on Champion Deck rating. Its unfair for accounts like mine with a majority of bulk in ranked 3 and 4 stars while all my opponents have top shelf 6 stars and basically nothing else.

    It is impossible what you are writting here. Matchmaking is based on prestige and if you are having one 6star rank 1 you will not face opponents like you described.
    Based on my expierience: 16100 prestige and 2.8mil hero rating and my avarage opponents have 16500 prestige and 3,3mil hero rating.

    Check your opponents prestige and yours. Should be similar
    It is not based on prestige anymore. Theyve changed it
    Changed it to what?
    Based on the accounts I've checked, its like a 30/70 split of 30% having similar prestige but different account rating, or 70% account rating similar but WAAY different prestige by thousands sometimes
  • SearmenisSearmenis Member Posts: 1,627 ★★★★★
    It IS based on prestige. Nothing changed on that topic.
  • CucumbererCucumberer Member Posts: 16 ★
    Searmenis said:

    It IS based on prestige. Nothing changed on that topic.

    It cant be, as i've had matches (as said at the top) where my opponent has had a 1.4k difference in prestige, but we were matched together because of similar account ratings. Please stop spreading misinformation unless Kabam themselves have come out and said that.
  • Ironman3000Ironman3000 Member Posts: 1,958 ★★★★★
    Why should someone with a 5.4k roster expect to succeed in a game mode that 16k+ players are also playing in?
  • CucumbererCucumberer Member Posts: 16 ★
    Ironman3000 said:

    Why should someone with a 5.4k roster expect to succeed in a game mode that 16k+ players are also playing in?

    I'd expect a multi-million dollar company to have *decent* matchmaking for one of their newest big content additions to the game. Are you saying I just shouldn't be allowed to play a whole gamemode because some people have stronger accounts? Thay makes no sense when I know people with accounts like mine exist in BG. Dont be an ass
  • CucumbererCucumberer Member Posts: 16 ★
    Searmenis said:

    It IS based on prestige. Nothing changed on that topic.

    Apologies for the bad quality, I cant screenshot on my other device without it breaking


  • Ironman3000Ironman3000 Member Posts: 1,958 ★★★★★
    Cucumberer said:

    Ironman3000 said:

    Why should someone with a 5.4k roster expect to succeed in a game mode that 16k+ players are also playing in?

    I'd expect a multi-million dollar company to have *decent* matchmaking for one of their newest big content additions to the game. Are you saying I just shouldn't be allowed to play a whole gamemode because some people have stronger accounts? Thay makes no sense when I know people with accounts like mine exist in BG. Dont be an ass
    No, you are free to play but you should not expect to win or be given easy matches.
  • CucumbererCucumberer Member Posts: 16 ★
    edited February 2023
    Ironman3000 said:

    Cucumberer said:

    Ironman3000 said:

    Why should someone with a 5.4k roster expect to succeed in a game mode that 16k+ players are also playing in?

    I'd expect a multi-million dollar company to have *decent* matchmaking for one of their newest big content additions to the game. Are you saying I just shouldn't be allowed to play a whole gamemode because some people have stronger accounts? Thay makes no sense when I know people with accounts like mine exist in BG. Dont be an ass
    No, you are free to play but you should not expect to win or be given easy matches.
    Ok whatever lol stay conceited. Im complaining about something that effects everybody that isnt the #1 Blubberiest Whale in their alliance. Bro is literally saying "If you dont spend money on the game you dont deserve to play it equally to others"....

    Like bruh if this is the kind of argument people against my suggestion are making then what more do I need to say lol.

    You're probably just happy because all your matches are cakewalks
  • Ironman3000Ironman3000 Member Posts: 1,958 ★★★★★
    Cucumberer said:

    Ironman3000 said:

    Cucumberer said:

    Ironman3000 said:

    Why should someone with a 5.4k roster expect to succeed in a game mode that 16k+ players are also playing in?

    I'd expect a multi-million dollar company to have *decent* matchmaking for one of their newest big content additions to the game. Are you saying I just shouldn't be allowed to play a whole gamemode because some people have stronger accounts? Thay makes no sense when I know people with accounts like mine exist in BG. Dont be an ass
    No, you are free to play but you should not expect to win or be given easy matches.
    Ok whatever lol stay conceited. Im complaining about something that effects everybody that isnt the #1 Blubberiest Whale in their alliance. Bro is literally saying "If you dont spend money on the game you dont deserve to play it equally to others"....

    Like bruh if this is the kind of argument people against my suggestion are making then what more do I need to say lol.

    You're probably just happy because all your matches are cakewalks
    lol, you have no idea what you're talking about. You're complaining about facing a 6k account in the same brackets as16-17K+ accounts. Please explain how those are cakewalks.
  • CucumbererCucumberer Member Posts: 16 ★
    Ayden_noah1 said:

    Kabam, please fix BG match making. Maybe having different tier levels.

    Tier 5 no restrictions where summoner will have to face a each other no matter their roster size - open to anyone who dares to compete - best rewards available and rewards will go down from here

    Tier 4 is for summoners with 1-5 6 stars rank 4 -

    Tier 3 is for summoners with max rank 3 6 stars

    Tier 2 is for summoners with max 5 stars or 6 stars rank 2

    Tier one is for those summoners with max 4 stars

    Obviously make the rewards geared towards those tiers. They just want a fair match and have some fun playing BG. It doesn't have to be exactly like this but something like an incursion tier system will work. This would allow all summoners to play to the tier of their liking and hopefully stop complaining about facing a stacked account.

    Thanks for listening to the common summoners.

    Exactly this. Thank you
  • IamnikeIamnike Member Posts: 268 ★★
    Maybe there isn't any other players with similar power playing the same time as you on your current rank. Might have to upgrade for roster its tough but it is what is it.
  • CoppinCoppin Member Posts: 2,601 ★★★★★
    Cucumberer said:

    I think there should be certain thresholds like in Incursions, where say if you have over X (maybe 4 or 5) amount of 6 stars then you get matched with only people in or around that bracket.

    Ive actually come across opponents with 8 or 9 6* champions just not fully levelled but from a progression point that doesn't seem fair at all.

    If u agree to take less rewards...
  • CoppinCoppin Member Posts: 2,601 ★★★★★
    Cucumberer said:

    Searmenis said:

    It IS based on prestige. Nothing changed on that topic.

    Apologies for the bad quality, I cant screenshot on my other device without it breaking


    That match is pretty damn even...
    And u r like uncollected.. u should be spending your time, energy and units on progression...
  • CoppinCoppin Member Posts: 2,601 ★★★★★
    Halpy said:

    Pikok said:

    Cucumberer said:

    I have been getting matched up with accounts with much higher rating top champs than I have, with the opponent often having multiple ranked 6 stars while I only have one at rank 1. I feel like it was much better when the matchmaking was based on Champion Deck rating. Its unfair for accounts like mine with a majority of bulk in ranked 3 and 4 stars while all my opponents have top shelf 6 stars and basically nothing else.

    It is impossible what you are writting here. Matchmaking is based on prestige and if you are having one 6star rank 1 you will not face opponents like you described.
    Based on my expierience: 16100 prestige and 2.8mil hero rating and my avarage opponents have 16500 prestige and 3,3mil hero rating.

    Check your opponents prestige and yours. Should be similar
    It is not based on prestige anymore. Theyve changed it
    It never was based on prestiege
  • Ironman3000Ironman3000 Member Posts: 1,958 ★★★★★
    Ayden_noah1 said:

    Kabam, please fix BG match making. Maybe having different tier levels.

    Tier 5 no restrictions where summoner will have to face a each other no matter their roster size - open to anyone who dares to compete - best rewards available and rewards will go down from here

    Tier 4 is for summoners with 1-5 6 stars rank 4 -

    Tier 3 is for summoners with max rank 3 6 stars

    Tier 2 is for summoners with max 5 stars or 6 stars rank 2

    Tier one is for those summoners with max 4 stars

    Obviously make the rewards geared towards those tiers. They just want a fair match and have some fun playing BG. It doesn't have to be exactly like this but something like an incursion tier system will work. This would allow all summoners to play to the tier of their liking and hopefully stop complaining about facing a stacked account.

    Thanks for listening to the common summoners.

    Try to convince the lower players, who are being gifted undeserved rewards in the current BGs, that they are now only eligible for a lower level of BGs and rewards.
  • Ayden_noah1Ayden_noah1 Member Posts: 1,861 ★★★★
    Ironman3000 said:

    Ayden_noah1 said:

    Kabam, please fix BG match making. Maybe having different tier levels.

    Tier 5 no restrictions where summoner will have to face a each other no matter their roster size - open to anyone who dares to compete - best rewards available and rewards will go down from here

    Tier 4 is for summoners with 1-5 6 stars rank 4 -

    Tier 3 is for summoners with max rank 3 6 stars

    Tier 2 is for summoners with max 5 stars or 6 stars rank 2

    Tier one is for those summoners with max 4 stars

    Obviously make the rewards geared towards those tiers. They just want a fair match and have some fun playing BG. It doesn't have to be exactly like this but something like an incursion tier system will work. This would allow all summoners to play to the tier of their liking and hopefully stop complaining about facing a stacked account.

    Thanks for listening to the common summoners.

    Try to convince the lower players, who are being gifted undeserved rewards in the current BGs, that they are now only eligible for a lower level of BGs and rewards.
    Just saying that they should stop complaining about match making otherwise this is the real possibility. They will hate this tier version a million times more. I'm tired of hearing the uncollected, conquer, cavalier players complaining that in GC, it's too hard for them. This would at least solve that problem, will definitely created a different one but I'm OK with that. I have only reached GC once and I'm ok with that. I have faced against stacked paragon roster and that's fine. I win a few and lose a lot. Do I wish it was easier but if I wanted easier I just do arena's, ACT 1-4, tier 1-3 side quest or monthly quest. I want a challenge so I play BG and face these monster accounts hoping for some fun and luck.
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,573 ★★★★★
    BGs isn't just for the highest Accounts, though. It's for everyone able to join. You can't make a game mode available to Players and tell them to go do other things.
  • DemonzfyreDemonzfyre Member Posts: 22,060 ★★★★★
    Cucumberer said:

    Searmenis said:

    It IS based on prestige. Nothing changed on that topic.

    Apologies for the bad quality, I cant screenshot on my other device without it breaking


    What is this supposed to prove?
  • IvarTheBonelessIvarTheBoneless Member Posts: 1,276 ★★★★
    Another one!

    I see Groundedwisdom has already joined, where's the other half of this dynamic duo (DNA3000) so this can get poppin'!
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,573 ★★★★★
    Huh?
  • Ayden_noah1Ayden_noah1 Member Posts: 1,861 ★★★★
    edited February 2023
    GroundedWisdom said:

    BGs isn't just for the highest Accounts, though. It's for everyone able to join. You can't make a game mode available to Players and tell them to go do other things.

    Nobody else said that only higher accounts can join. If you want to complain about facing bigger accounts then it only makes sense to have a different tiers for different levels of summoners. There will always be summoners who will complain since summoners will never 100% agree on everything but it will be less about matchmaking. This way, summoners of all level can join the tiers based on their progression level (this game is about progression level after all) and face similar account progressions so they can enjoy BG more. There would be a top tier level with the best rewards for those that dare to challenge all summoners with no restrictions in matchmaking. This way those that like to play against similar progression level can and those that dare to challenge all summoners have a place as well.

    Just sounds like a good solution to me.
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,573 ★★★★★
    My point is, it's not a reasonable argument to tell people to go focus on other content when they're included in the game mode. If they're included, it's for them as well. Which means it's not unheard of for them to want to be able to play it with reasonable ability.
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