4th of July and how whales are the dominant species in the battlerealm

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  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,575 ★★★★★
    As long as I can remember, this imaginary war with F2P vs. spenders has been going on. Every major sale, there's all this concern about the game being thrown out of whack.
    It's worth noting that the game is still here.
  • SearmenisSearmenis Member Posts: 1,628 ★★★★★
    FiiNCH said:

    Searmenis said:

    Renaxqq said:

    Without whales there won't be MCOC.

    We re not against whales. You miss the point completely.
    ‘We’re not against whales, we’re just against them being able to use the champs they’ve spent money to acquire and rank up against us’
    No, we re against offers being too OP for anyone except whales to be able to compete in the only mode that actually gives Paragon stuff to paragons. If the offers where a bit worse, they would be still great, whales will still get them.
  • SearmenisSearmenis Member Posts: 1,628 ★★★★★

    As long as I can remember, this imaginary war with F2P vs. spenders has been going on. Every major sale, there's all this concern about the game being thrown out of whack.
    It's worth noting that the game is still here.

    Now it s spenders competing whales, we evolved.
  • PolygonPolygon Member Posts: 4,558 ★★★★★
    Could maybe ban 7* from Victory Track
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,575 ★★★★★
    Searmenis said:

    As long as I can remember, this imaginary war with F2P vs. spenders has been going on. Every major sale, there's all this concern about the game being thrown out of whack.
    It's worth noting that the game is still here.

    Now it s spenders competing whales, we evolved.
    There is no competition there either.
    I can't keep up with Elon or Bezos with my salary. That's just a fact of life. Smaller scale, but the point is the same.
    If someone is spending enough money to qualify as a "whale", you're not going to keep up with them spending occasionally.
    That's the whole point. I don't know why people ever thought they could, or they had to, but there is no competition in that. It's not how the game works.
  • RuwqiersaRuwqiersa Member Posts: 714 ★★★
    doctorb said:

    So because YOU CHOOSE to be FTP (regardless of ur reason, whether ur poor or stingy) then those who want to spend money should suffer???
    I'm not a whale and even I support this pay scheme. You know there r 2 major sales event each year: July 4th and BFCM (Black Friday / Cyber Monday).
    So why not save up fir them. You have 4 months till BFCM sale.
    Maybe go out to eat one less time. One less movie night. One less shirt / pants / shoes. Point is u, too, can buy as much as u want but u have to prioritize. Maybe ppl who spend big during these big sales just make the necessary sacrifices for it.

    Hahahahaa no they dont. They are probably massive business owners that throwing 100k on a game doesnt mean anything to them.
  • klobberintymeklobberintyme Member Posts: 1,590 ★★★★
    Ruwqiersa said:

    doctorb said:

    So because YOU CHOOSE to be FTP (regardless of ur reason, whether ur poor or stingy) then those who want to spend money should suffer???
    I'm not a whale and even I support this pay scheme. You know there r 2 major sales event each year: July 4th and BFCM (Black Friday / Cyber Monday).
    So why not save up fir them. You have 4 months till BFCM sale.
    Maybe go out to eat one less time. One less movie night. One less shirt / pants / shoes. Point is u, too, can buy as much as u want but u have to prioritize. Maybe ppl who spend big during these big sales just make the necessary sacrifices for it.

    Hahahahaa no they dont. They are probably massive business owners that throwing 100k on a game doesnt mean anything to them.
    The smarter content creators are/ should be writing off all their purchases. I own my business, and you better believe I'm not setting money on fire unless i can funnel it back somewhere or write it off.

    I believe what you mean to say is individuals with reserves of cash they're not too attached to can set fire to 100k. I spend "spending money" but 100k wipes away a lot of my dividends/interest, and then what's the point.
  • ThatGuy214ThatGuy214 Member Posts: 310 ★★
    The bigger issue i feel it will push people out of BG long term if they feel it doesn’t benefit them. I spend here and there and BG is a waste of time and resources usually. Seeing the prestige places me against crazy whale accounts and i go forever with out a win why would i spend units on BG to get sub results. I can put those units else were. That would benefit me more seeing game seem to be pay to win.
  • bm3eppsbm3epps Member Posts: 1,157 ★★★

    I think they ban 7*’s from BG for now. We can compete with 6*’s but not the 7’s. I have 7*’s so it would hurt me not to be able to take them in but it would make the playing field a bit more doable. Fight r6’s is hard enough. R2 7*’s destroy most anyone with champs under r4 6*’s. Like a dude said above about KT1 steam. I agree.

    I think it depends on the champs/matchups. I faced a 7* R2 duped Domino, and I easily defeated her with my 6* R4 Ant-Man Future.
  • MordMord Member Posts: 147 ★★
    Polygon said:

    At the very minimum, these resources that have destroyed the game balance need to be more readily available in content rewards.

    AQ is a laughing joke with how obsolete the rewards are, add a good amount of t6cc in it. Have 8.3 exploration give an r5 gem. Have the side quests and cav eq give more t6cc.

    Stop catering to just the whales.

    That's the only issue I have - the stupid volume of the offers compared with everything available in-game. I do spend more than my ally's average, and still think this time the offers were dumb OP.

    There's nothing in game that come even close to them, they are galaxies ahead. Not AQ/AW/BG or story act rewards, with no new content, no SOP/EOP, past issues, no Everest content..., nothing comparable to a fraction of the offers. And while one might argue it's always been like this, it somehow doesn't feel the same to me.
  • Kappa2gKappa2g Member Posts: 281 ★★★
    Banning 7*s from battlegrounds would be absurd and stupid but I do think a soft limit on how many 7*s can be in a deck for the victory track (say 5) could alleviate the situation a bit and give non spenders some time to catch up without being curb stomped in BGs just by rosters itself.
  • RuwqiersaRuwqiersa Member Posts: 714 ★★★

    Ruwqiersa said:

    doctorb said:

    So because YOU CHOOSE to be FTP (regardless of ur reason, whether ur poor or stingy) then those who want to spend money should suffer???
    I'm not a whale and even I support this pay scheme. You know there r 2 major sales event each year: July 4th and BFCM (Black Friday / Cyber Monday).
    So why not save up fir them. You have 4 months till BFCM sale.
    Maybe go out to eat one less time. One less movie night. One less shirt / pants / shoes. Point is u, too, can buy as much as u want but u have to prioritize. Maybe ppl who spend big during these big sales just make the necessary sacrifices for it.

    Hahahahaa no they dont. They are probably massive business owners that throwing 100k on a game doesnt mean anything to them.
    The smarter content creators are/ should be writing off all their purchases. I own my business, and you better believe I'm not setting money on fire unless i can funnel it back somewhere or write it off.

    I believe what you mean to say is individuals with reserves of cash they're not too attached to can set fire to 100k. I spend "spending money" but 100k wipes away a lot of my dividends/interest, and then what's the point.
    I was just tryna point out how the guy said whales sacrifice stuff like not going to movie for once or not buying shoes, if you need to that you already lack the amount of money that you can possibly spend to compete with them.
  • vz2fbxvz2fbx Member Posts: 98

    Kabam??? What are you thinking??

    I know these offers give you revenue and help sustain the game, but now whales and spenders are roaming BGs and just bullying every FTP trying to get decent placement in GC leaderboards, just watch KT1 streams, half of the time people just quit at the start when they see he's got 15 R5s and 3 R2s ?? Now me, one of these FTP players can't even touch these kids anymore because of you

    Dude. Then you need the start spending as well. You cannot expect to have 1st class service for free. I still don't see any logic with your complaint. If you want to be competitive, then spend a bit and help Kabam sustain their business. If you want to be FTP, then play for fun. Free stuff is good enough.
  • vz2fbxvz2fbx Member Posts: 98
    I just don't see any logic here. Players who don't spend anything are complaining that they could not get resources like the whales. If Kabam starts giving out stuffs to make FTP players happy, they will go bankrupt soon. Why the people who are willing to support them will spend anything if it is free?
  • Denslo500Denslo500 Member Posts: 905 ★★★
    FTP can literally play every mode in the entire game (EQ, SQ, Arena, Story, BG, Incursions, ROL, LOL, AOL, GG, SS).
    That is all Kabam SHOULD promise.
    Everything after that is skill and money.
  • iDestroyerZiDestroyerZ Member Posts: 729 ★★★★
    edited July 2023
    Denslo500 said:

    FTP can literally play every mode in the entire game (EQ, SQ, Arena, Story, BG, Incursions, ROL, LOL, AOL, GG, SS).
    That is all Kabam SHOULD promise.
    Everything after that is skill and money.

    I think it needs to have a limit in the gap of ftp vs spenders, yes spenders will always have an advantage and why shouldn't they? The main problem that i see it is the fact that people were able to buy everything 3 times, there's always been a gap between ftp vs spenders but after the 4th of july that gap was increased way too much

    I've seen some profiles with 4 7* r2 and that was because of the fact that the deal was bought 3 times, odin alone wouldn't give a 7* material to rank up and even 4 black panther's treasure wouldn't be enough to put 4 7* rank 2
  • KnightOfTheRealmKnightOfTheRealm Member Posts: 950 ★★★

    Is a P2W game, honestly it wasnt surprising that this would happen ...

    You only need to spend 100$ to surprass any F2P player that has done everything

    Wrong.

    Is a P2W game, honestly it wasnt surprising that this would happen ...

    You only need to spend 100$ to surprass any F2P player that has done everything

    Wrong.
    So that’s why my profile disagrees shot up lol
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