Highest prestige in the world !! Will the race ever end ?

Rohit_316Rohit_316 Member Posts: 3,415 β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…
edited July 2023 in General Discussion


Just insane . 22k prestige . Will this prestige race ever end ?

I marked up the name and alliance name to avoid any issues here but some people are already aware.
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  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,488 β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…
    The "Prestige Race" is manufactured by the Players. You're going to see the ceiling raise from time to time. That's a result of more Rarities and Ranks being introduced.
  • ButtehrsButtehrs Member Posts: 5,570 β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…
    The literal only way to stop the increasing prestige will he for the game to shut down servers.
  • DeaconDeacon Member Posts: 4,234 β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…
    what exactly does the "prestige race" do? lol
  • FurrymoosenFurrymoosen Member Posts: 2,755 β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…
    Deacon said:

    what exactly does the "prestige race" do? lol

    Determines who gets first place in AQ.
  • BigBlueOxBigBlueOx Member Posts: 2,015 β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…
    And they say cheaters never prosper…

    Tough for me to take new milestones like this seriously.
  • ButtehrsButtehrs Member Posts: 5,570 β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…
    Greekhit said:

    Deacon said:

    what exactly does the "prestige race" do? lol

    Determines who gets first place in AQ.
    Who cares anymore?
    Prestige is mainly for flexing reasons now , since AQ due to rewards has become completely irrelevant.
    I can’t believe these people throw thousands of $ to raise Prestige in order to place first in AQ anymore, it doesn’t make sense.
    They throw these money to raise Prestige , just to be above all others and be on top.
    Yes aq sucks in general in every way including how small the rewards are compared to aw and bgs. But remember, every little bit counts and it all adds up.
  • DL864DL864 Member Posts: 1,089 β˜…β˜…β˜…
    Ghost_Fan said:

    The "Prestige Race" is manufactured by the Players. You're going to see the ceiling raise from time to time. That's a result of more Rarities and Ranks being introduced.

    By the players? Are you for real?
    Yeah I mean prestige has nothing to do with points in AQ πŸ™„πŸ™„πŸ™„. Some people
  • DemonzfyreDemonzfyre Member Posts: 21,762 β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…
    Greekhit said:

    Deacon said:

    what exactly does the "prestige race" do? lol

    Determines who gets first place in AQ.
    Who cares anymore?
    Prestige is mainly for flexing reasons now , since AQ due to rewards has become completely irrelevant.
    I can’t believe these people throw thousands of $ to raise Prestige in order to place first in AQ anymore, it doesn’t make sense.
    They throw these money to raise Prestige , just to be above all others and be on top.
    Obviously the alliances that compete for Rank 1 in AQ care. Kabam isn't going to get rid of the prestige aspect of that, so until something else changes, those who want to be on top care.
  • Lovejoy72Lovejoy72 Member Posts: 1,858 β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…
    The only part of AQ rewards that have gotten a recent bump were the top 99 (or something like that) a few months ago. The prestige race certainly impacts the players in those allies. I would refer to it as nominal in import to everyone else.
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,488 β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…
    Ghost_Fan said:

    The "Prestige Race" is manufactured by the Players. You're going to see the ceiling raise from time to time. That's a result of more Rarities and Ranks being introduced.

    By the players? Are you for real?
    Yes, I'm for real.
    Prestige was an internal metric. There was even a time where they didn't display it. It was the Players that decided to maximize it and chase after it. It was the Players who also decided to set rules in Alliances for Prestige-only Rank-Ups. That wasn't the design of Kabam. This whole chase for Prestige was Player-made.
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,488 β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…
    *For the record, that's not a judgment either way. Players will do what Players will do. It's more a point of fact.
  • LpooLpoo Member Posts: 2,215 β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…

    Ghost_Fan said:

    The "Prestige Race" is manufactured by the Players. You're going to see the ceiling raise from time to time. That's a result of more Rarities and Ranks being introduced.

    By the players? Are you for real?
    Yes, I'm for real.
    Prestige was an internal metric. There was even a time where they didn't display it. It was the Players that decided to maximize it and chase after it. It was the Players who also decided to set rules in Alliances for Prestige-only Rank-Ups. That wasn't the design of Kabam. This whole chase for Prestige was Player-made.
    Did players create the metric?
  • FurrymoosenFurrymoosen Member Posts: 2,755 β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…
    Greekhit said:

    Deacon said:

    what exactly does the "prestige race" do? lol

    Determines who gets first place in AQ.
    Who cares anymore?
    Prestige is mainly for flexing reasons now , since AQ due to rewards has become completely irrelevant.
    I can’t believe these people throw thousands of $ to raise Prestige in order to place first in AQ anymore, it doesn’t make sense.
    They throw these money to raise Prestige , just to be above all others and be on top.
    Whether you like AQ or not, those players care. Why else would they push it if not to keep their place at the top?
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,488 β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…
    edited July 2023
    Lpoo said:

    Ghost_Fan said:

    The "Prestige Race" is manufactured by the Players. You're going to see the ceiling raise from time to time. That's a result of more Rarities and Ranks being introduced.

    By the players? Are you for real?
    Yes, I'm for real.
    Prestige was an internal metric. There was even a time where they didn't display it. It was the Players that decided to maximize it and chase after it. It was the Players who also decided to set rules in Alliances for Prestige-only Rank-Ups. That wasn't the design of Kabam. This whole chase for Prestige was Player-made.
    Did players create the metric?
    No, but that's like saying the people who designed the Tickle Me Elmo doll designed the stores being stampeded.
  • RapRap Member Posts: 3,210 β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…
    That is the very reason for prestige Furry, and has been from the introduction of "Prestige," Money.
  • Bugmat78Bugmat78 Member Posts: 2,340 β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…
    Greekhit said:

    Deacon said:

    what exactly does the "prestige race" do? lol

    Determines who gets first place in AQ.
    Who cares anymore?
    Prestige is mainly for flexing reasons now , since AQ due to rewards has become completely irrelevant.
    I can’t believe these people throw thousands of $ to raise Prestige in order to place first in AQ anymore, it doesn’t make sense.
    They throw these money to raise Prestige , just to be above all others and be on top.
    They are betting Kabam improves AQ rewards to a tier level with or above BGs (as the store is long overdue an update). We will find out on Friday...
  • Ghost_FanGhost_Fan Member Posts: 273 β˜…β˜…β˜…

    Ghost_Fan said:

    The "Prestige Race" is manufactured by the Players. You're going to see the ceiling raise from time to time. That's a result of more Rarities and Ranks being introduced.

    By the players? Are you for real?
    Yes, I'm for real.
    Prestige was an internal metric. There was even a time where they didn't display it. It was the Players that decided to maximize it and chase after it. It was the Players who also decided to set rules in Alliances for Prestige-only Rank-Ups. That wasn't the design of Kabam. This whole chase for Prestige was Player-made.
    Yeah I guess you are right. It's the players fault that they wanna play the game. It's their fault that they wanna go for the top rewards (which is like the endgoal of this game). I really wonder, do you even think before you say these things?
    Arguing with you is just pointless. Like arguing with some other people on this forum.
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,488 β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…
    Ghost_Fan said:

    Ghost_Fan said:

    The "Prestige Race" is manufactured by the Players. You're going to see the ceiling raise from time to time. That's a result of more Rarities and Ranks being introduced.

    By the players? Are you for real?
    Yes, I'm for real.
    Prestige was an internal metric. There was even a time where they didn't display it. It was the Players that decided to maximize it and chase after it. It was the Players who also decided to set rules in Alliances for Prestige-only Rank-Ups. That wasn't the design of Kabam. This whole chase for Prestige was Player-made.
    Yeah I guess you are right. It's the players fault that they wanna play the game. It's their fault that they wanna go for the top rewards (which is like the endgoal of this game). I really wonder, do you even think before you say these things?
    Arguing with you is just pointless. Like arguing with some other people on this forum.
    This argument is one you're having with yourself, I'm afraid. I didn't say anything about fault. I didn't even say it was a bad thing or a good thing. I said the Prestige Race was devised by Players.
  • DL864DL864 Member Posts: 1,089 β˜…β˜…β˜…

    Lpoo said:

    Ghost_Fan said:

    The "Prestige Race" is manufactured by the Players. You're going to see the ceiling raise from time to time. That's a result of more Rarities and Ranks being introduced.

    By the players? Are you for real?
    Yes, I'm for real.
    Prestige was an internal metric. There was even a time where they didn't display it. It was the Players that decided to maximize it and chase after it. It was the Players who also decided to set rules in Alliances for Prestige-only Rank-Ups. That wasn't the design of Kabam. This whole chase for Prestige was Player-made.
    Did players create the metric?
    No, but that's like saying the people who designed the Tickle Me Elmo doll designed the stores being stampeded.
    That's exactly what they designed tickle me elmo for to hopefully be a top selling toy. That's exactly what kabam used prestige for to make new champs more desirable when aq was the top game mode for a while there every new champ was higher prestige that was by design to get top allys to buy up crystals.
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,488 β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…
    DL864 said:

    Lpoo said:

    Ghost_Fan said:

    The "Prestige Race" is manufactured by the Players. You're going to see the ceiling raise from time to time. That's a result of more Rarities and Ranks being introduced.

    By the players? Are you for real?
    Yes, I'm for real.
    Prestige was an internal metric. There was even a time where they didn't display it. It was the Players that decided to maximize it and chase after it. It was the Players who also decided to set rules in Alliances for Prestige-only Rank-Ups. That wasn't the design of Kabam. This whole chase for Prestige was Player-made.
    Did players create the metric?
    No, but that's like saying the people who designed the Tickle Me Elmo doll designed the stores being stampeded.
    That's exactly what they designed tickle me elmo for to hopefully be a top selling toy. That's exactly what kabam used prestige for to make new champs more desirable when aq was the top game mode for a while there every new champ was higher prestige that was by design to get top allys to buy up crystals.
    Actually, that's not what they designed Prestige for. If you'll notice, it was the most random Champs that had high Prestige back in the day. If they were high in Prestige, they weren't Top Tier. In fact, for the longest time, they turned down requests to display Prestige because they didn't want to further encourage the Prestige Race. Eventually they offered people what they wanted because it was requested so long. At no point ever did Kabam encourage Players to Rank for Prestige alone.
  • DL864DL864 Member Posts: 1,089 β˜…β˜…β˜…

    DL864 said:

    Lpoo said:

    Ghost_Fan said:

    The "Prestige Race" is manufactured by the Players. You're going to see the ceiling raise from time to time. That's a result of more Rarities and Ranks being introduced.

    By the players? Are you for real?
    Yes, I'm for real.
    Prestige was an internal metric. There was even a time where they didn't display it. It was the Players that decided to maximize it and chase after it. It was the Players who also decided to set rules in Alliances for Prestige-only Rank-Ups. That wasn't the design of Kabam. This whole chase for Prestige was Player-made.
    Did players create the metric?
    No, but that's like saying the people who designed the Tickle Me Elmo doll designed the stores being stampeded.
    That's exactly what they designed tickle me elmo for to hopefully be a top selling toy. That's exactly what kabam used prestige for to make new champs more desirable when aq was the top game mode for a while there every new champ was higher prestige that was by design to get top allys to buy up crystals.
    Actually, that's not what they designed Prestige for. If you'll notice, it was the most random Champs that had high Prestige back in the day. If they were high in Prestige, they weren't Top Tier. In fact, for the longest time, they turned down requests to display Prestige because they didn't want to further encourage the Prestige Race. Eventually they offered people what they wanted because it was requested so long. At no point ever did Kabam encourage Players to Rank for Prestige alone.
    They created prestige as a metric so intentional or not they created the prestige race. The players figured out the scoring and from there it was a wrap.
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,488 β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…
    DL864 said:

    DL864 said:

    Lpoo said:

    Ghost_Fan said:

    The "Prestige Race" is manufactured by the Players. You're going to see the ceiling raise from time to time. That's a result of more Rarities and Ranks being introduced.

    By the players? Are you for real?
    Yes, I'm for real.
    Prestige was an internal metric. There was even a time where they didn't display it. It was the Players that decided to maximize it and chase after it. It was the Players who also decided to set rules in Alliances for Prestige-only Rank-Ups. That wasn't the design of Kabam. This whole chase for Prestige was Player-made.
    Did players create the metric?
    No, but that's like saying the people who designed the Tickle Me Elmo doll designed the stores being stampeded.
    That's exactly what they designed tickle me elmo for to hopefully be a top selling toy. That's exactly what kabam used prestige for to make new champs more desirable when aq was the top game mode for a while there every new champ was higher prestige that was by design to get top allys to buy up crystals.
    Actually, that's not what they designed Prestige for. If you'll notice, it was the most random Champs that had high Prestige back in the day. If they were high in Prestige, they weren't Top Tier. In fact, for the longest time, they turned down requests to display Prestige because they didn't want to further encourage the Prestige Race. Eventually they offered people what they wanted because it was requested so long. At no point ever did Kabam encourage Players to Rank for Prestige alone.
    They created prestige as a metric so intentional or not they created the prestige race. The players figured out the scoring and from there it was a wrap.
    They created Prestige. Where Players took it was not their creation. We will have to disagree.
  • Rohit_316Rohit_316 Member Posts: 3,415 β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…

    The only time the race will end is when the game ends. Hopefully it goes on forever.

    By the looks of it , it will.
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,488 β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…
    Rohit_316 said:

    The only time the race will end is when the game ends. Hopefully it goes on forever.

    By the looks of it , it will.
    As long as it's a metric that correlates with Rewards like AQ, the push will be there.
  • DNA3000DNA3000 Member, Guardian Posts: 19,301 Guardian

    Ghost_Fan said:

    The "Prestige Race" is manufactured by the Players. You're going to see the ceiling raise from time to time. That's a result of more Rarities and Ranks being introduced.

    By the players? Are you for real?
    Yes, I'm for real.
    Prestige was an internal metric. There was even a time where they didn't display it. It was the Players that decided to maximize it and chase after it. It was the Players who also decided to set rules in Alliances for Prestige-only Rank-Ups. That wasn't the design of Kabam. This whole chase for Prestige was Player-made.
    That's not exactly true. While prestige was not always readily visible for individual player accounts, prestige was a visible metric for alliances for AQ scoring. The game specifically rewarded high prestige in AQ, so it is the game that explicitly created the prestige race.

    And deliberately so, as it gave the whales something to chase. As you point out, the high prestige champs were not consistently the highest performing champs. If the strongest champs were also the highest prestige, there would be no "prestige race" because the chase for high prestige would be synonymous with the chase for the strongest roster. Prestige would be redundant as a pursuit goal. By making prestige orthogonal to champion strength, anyone who wanted to explicitly chase high prestige for high AQ scoring had to chase it deliberately, and independently of chasing a strong roster. This was expensive, and only helped in one place (AQ), which is precisely why it worked the way it did.

    How much players choose to focus on prestige is up to the players, but it would not be a true statement in any way to say that the players invented the prestige chase. Kabam invented the prestige chase, and what's more if players didn't take the bait and actually chase it, Kabam would have either added more rewards to it to make it more valuable or they would have replaced it with something else. Kabam invented the prestige chase because Kabam wanted players to chase something separate from natural roster growth, and prestige was the thing they decided to use for that purpose.

    If the whales are only chasing what everyone else is chasing, all their spending gets focused into the same direction everyone else is going, and that makes the gap between them and everyone else larger. By giving them a completely different thing to chase that most other players don't chase, the whales have to chase two things at once, and that means the gap between the whales and everyone else for all non-prestige purposes decreases. That's the purpose of prestige. It is in effect a way to do something that seems contradictory and impossible: to give big spenders a lot for their money while also giving them less of what most players care about.
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