Completely off the troll topic but does anybody like SAP? I’m assuming it’s the same one I’m familiar with. My experience hasn’t been directly with it but every company I know that uses or switches to it seems to have loads of problems and not a lot of good to say
Completely off the troll topic but does anybody like SAP? I’m assuming it’s the same one I’m familiar with. My experience hasn’t been directly with it but every company I know that uses or switches to it seems to have loads of problems and not a lot of good to say
There's a saying I've heard multiple times - You don't change SAP to work with your business. You change your business to work with SAP.
Knowing people who use it, and work with it, there's nothing I've yet heard so far to dispute that statement.
The more I think about that, I am wondering if kabam really has the technical pre-condition to solve such exploits. I compare that with SAP - there are, reports and various standard transactions but this seems to be very special.
Somebody knows more about the technic itself?
Your mention of SAP gave me PTSD. I was project leader of SAP integration with legacy systems back in '04. Shudder.
Anyways, most likely the query was looking for If crystal opening=y AND between xdatetime and xdatetime, list Champ results, delete. Anything further than that would definitely take a full week to unwind AND make a ton of assumptions that wouldn't be one size fits all. Heck just thinking about it I could see a room of folks shouting each other down about variables and what's fair.
Ugh. SAP.
I am working with SAP (GHP, GHM and GHQ) in a Human Resources environment. Responsible globally for a big process within the company, working together with IT in India.
That’s why I know how complex such reports and query’s are. I think it’s exactly how you described it 😆🫠🫠
A lot of people are now unhappy with the Kabam after the fix. But I'm happy with everything, opening this crystals was fun. Plus tried playing a bunch of 6* characters. Had a lot of fun over the weeks. One day ban is a paltry price to pay for that. Plus I got really lucky with 7* pulls and those characters stayed on my account. So a big kudos to the guys at Kabam. And thanks to the community for supporting fellow gamers in this situation
Why would you post about this? If you want to keep them this isn’t the way to go.
A lot of people are now unhappy with the Kabam after the fix. But I'm happy with everything, opening this crystals was fun. Plus tried playing a bunch of 6* characters. Had a lot of fun over the weeks. One day ban is a paltry price to pay for that. Plus I got really lucky with 7* pulls and those characters stayed on my account. So a big kudos to the guys at Kabam. And thanks to the community for supporting fellow gamers in this situation
Why would you post about this? If you want to keep them this isn’t the way to go.
I don't think it's any secret. Kabam knows all the accounts that had crystals, they looked them over and did what they wanted. If they wanted to take those characters too, they would have.
I guess this is due to the fact that there was no direct violation of ToS in this situation. I don't really feel sorry for my account if something happened to it, but there are people who have invested a lot of money in the game. Applying too harsh measures could cause too much wrangling in a situation where the company clearly doesn't have much of a legal standing.
A lot of people are now unhappy with the Kabam after the fix. But I'm happy with everything, opening this crystals was fun. Plus tried playing a bunch of 6* characters. Had a lot of fun over the weeks. One day ban is a paltry price to pay for that. Plus I got really lucky with 7* pulls and those characters stayed on my account. So a big kudos to the guys at Kabam. And thanks to the community for supporting fellow gamers in this situation
Why would you post about this? If you want to keep them this isn’t the way to go.
I don't think it's any secret. Kabam knows all the accounts that had crystals, they looked them over and did what they wanted. If they wanted to take those characters too, they would have.
I guess this is due to the fact that there was no direct violation of ToS in this situation. I don't really feel sorry for my account if something happened to it, but there are people who have invested a lot of money in the game. Applying too harsh measures could cause too much wrangling in a situation where the company clearly doesn't have much of a legal standing.
Exploiting a bug is a direct violation of the ToS. They don't even need a reason to terminate your account as you don't own anything in it. It's one of the very first things listed in the ToS.
A lot of people are now unhappy with the Kabam after the fix. But I'm happy with everything, opening this crystals was fun. Plus tried playing a bunch of 6* characters. Had a lot of fun over the weeks. One day ban is a paltry price to pay for that. Plus I got really lucky with 7* pulls and those characters stayed on my account. So a big kudos to the guys at Kabam. And thanks to the community for supporting fellow gamers in this situation
Why would you post about this? If you want to keep them this isn’t the way to go.
I don't think it's any secret. Kabam knows all the accounts that had crystals, they looked them over and did what they wanted. If they wanted to take those characters too, they would have.
I guess this is due to the fact that there was no direct violation of ToS in this situation. I don't really feel sorry for my account if something happened to it, but there are people who have invested a lot of money in the game. Applying too harsh measures could cause too much wrangling in a situation where the company clearly doesn't have much of a legal standing.
Exploiting a bug is a direct violation of the ToS. They don't even need a reason to terminate your account as you don't own anything in it. It's one of the very first things listed in the ToS.
That's all the legal standing they need.
Lol, ok. For people who apparently know how to google, but still can't do logical steps. To exploit something, there has to be a vulnerability. People doing their usual in-game routine, because of an extra zero put by an office clerk, do not become exploiters. Because each of their actions and in individual and in combination are not unusual. As well as the work of the program, which did what it had to do: gave exactly the reward for the quest that was written there and was written. I think it's gonna take O.J. Simpson-level lawyers to push your point here, buddy
And, I guess, you still need to google what a bug is
If there’s truth to that the people who exploited this obvious bug got to keep their 7* champs they gained from this, they will be losing players. I would like an official response to this, if it’s trolling or not. The heavily monetized 7* is what everyone is gunning for. I don’t care about my next 6* pull, i’m looking for 7* shards. To add insult to injury, the current state of aw is a total dumpster fire, also with almost zero communication on what’s going on. A major post like: state of the game right now. Kinda like the old roadmap would be a good start imo.
A lot of people are now unhappy with the Kabam after the fix. But I'm happy with everything, opening this crystals was fun. Plus tried playing a bunch of 6* characters. Had a lot of fun over the weeks. One day ban is a paltry price to pay for that. Plus I got really lucky with 7* pulls and those characters stayed on my account. So a big kudos to the guys at Kabam. And thanks to the community for supporting fellow gamers in this situation
Why would you post about this? If you want to keep them this isn’t the way to go.
I don't think it's any secret. Kabam knows all the accounts that had crystals, they looked them over and did what they wanted. If they wanted to take those characters too, they would have.
I guess this is due to the fact that there was no direct violation of ToS in this situation. I don't really feel sorry for my account if something happened to it, but there are people who have invested a lot of money in the game. Applying too harsh measures could cause too much wrangling in a situation where the company clearly doesn't have much of a legal standing.
Exploiting a bug is a direct violation of the ToS. They don't even need a reason to terminate your account as you don't own anything in it. It's one of the very first things listed in the ToS.
That's all the legal standing they need.
Lol, ok. For people who apparently know how to google, but still can't do logical steps. To exploit something, there has to be a vulnerability. People doing their usual in-game routine, because of an extra zero put by an office clerk, do not become exploiters. Because each of their actions and in individual and in combination are not unusual. As well as the work of the program, which did what it had to do: gave exactly the reward for the quest that was written there and was written. I think it's gonna take O.J. Simpson-level lawyers to push your point here, buddy
And, I guess, you still need to google what a bug is
Section 5.of the ToS states you don't own your account.
A lot of people are now unhappy with the Kabam after the fix. But I'm happy with everything, opening this crystals was fun. Plus tried playing a bunch of 6* characters. Had a lot of fun over the weeks. One day ban is a paltry price to pay for that. Plus I got really lucky with 7* pulls and those characters stayed on my account. So a big kudos to the guys at Kabam. And thanks to the community for supporting fellow gamers in this situation
Why would you post about this? If you want to keep them this isn’t the way to go.
I don't think it's any secret. Kabam knows all the accounts that had crystals, they looked them over and did what they wanted. If they wanted to take those characters too, they would have.
I guess this is due to the fact that there was no direct violation of ToS in this situation. I don't really feel sorry for my account if something happened to it, but there are people who have invested a lot of money in the game. Applying too harsh measures could cause too much wrangling in a situation where the company clearly doesn't have much of a legal standing.
Exploiting a bug is a direct violation of the ToS. They don't even need a reason to terminate your account as you don't own anything in it. It's one of the very first things listed in the ToS.
That's all the legal standing they need.
Lol, ok. For people who apparently know how to google, but still can't do logical steps. To exploit something, there has to be a vulnerability. People doing their usual in-game routine, because of an extra zero put by an office clerk, do not become exploiters. Because each of their actions and in individual and in combination are not unusual. As well as the work of the program, which did what it had to do: gave exactly the reward for the quest that was written there and was written. I think it's gonna take O.J. Simpson-level lawyers to push your point here, buddy
And, I guess, you still need to google what a bug is
Section 5.of the ToS states you don't own your account.
This wasn't an "extra zero". This was a code error that gave crystals instead of shards.
You can spin it however you want. There's more.than enough standing to show that you're wrong on every level.
Dude, you show section six, but in the text you say section five. And none of them say anything about the account. I don't get full copyright on a character when I pull it out of the crystal and can't commercialize it, that's frustrating news! This is getting hard to read, some random collection of words and posts, sorry mate.
A lot of people are now unhappy with the Kabam after the fix. But I'm happy with everything, opening this crystals was fun. Plus tried playing a bunch of 6* characters. Had a lot of fun over the weeks. One day ban is a paltry price to pay for that. Plus I got really lucky with 7* pulls and those characters stayed on my account. So a big kudos to the guys at Kabam. And thanks to the community for supporting fellow gamers in this situation
Why would you post about this? If you want to keep them this isn’t the way to go.
I don't think it's any secret. Kabam knows all the accounts that had crystals, they looked them over and did what they wanted. If they wanted to take those characters too, they would have.
I guess this is due to the fact that there was no direct violation of ToS in this situation. I don't really feel sorry for my account if something happened to it, but there are people who have invested a lot of money in the game. Applying too harsh measures could cause too much wrangling in a situation where the company clearly doesn't have much of a legal standing.
Exploiting a bug is a direct violation of the ToS. They don't even need a reason to terminate your account as you don't own anything in it. It's one of the very first things listed in the ToS.
That's all the legal standing they need.
Lol, ok. For people who apparently know how to google, but still can't do logical steps. To exploit something, there has to be a vulnerability. People doing their usual in-game routine, because of an extra zero put by an office clerk, do not become exploiters. Because each of their actions and in individual and in combination are not unusual. As well as the work of the program, which did what it had to do: gave exactly the reward for the quest that was written there and was written. I think it's gonna take O.J. Simpson-level lawyers to push your point here, buddy
And, I guess, you still need to google what a bug is
Section 5.of the ToS states you don't own your account.
This wasn't an "extra zero". This was a code error that gave crystals instead of shards.
You can spin it however you want. There's more.than enough standing to show that you're wrong on every level.
Dude, you show section six, but in the text you say section five. And none of them say anything about the account. I don't get full copyright on a character when I pull it out of the crystal and can't commercialize it, that's frustrating news! This is getting hard to read, some random collection of words and posts, sorry mate.
Can confirm, this person didn't lose his 7* either, he was Cav before the exploit so there's absolutely no way he got 7k 7* shards from 6* dupes (not from the mythic crystals of course).
Well, something was legitimately offered as a choice for a certain progression. People that had the right to choose their progression s reward, did chose it. That s how games work, we don't make choices based on speculating that they may be bugged. If I was looking at July 4th s Odin offer and I was "oh man, this is way too much, it must be bugged" and didn't purchased it, I would ve been the stupid one, right? But I forgot, there s money involved there.
A lot of people are now unhappy with the Kabam after the fix. But I'm happy with everything, opening this crystals was fun. Plus tried playing a bunch of 6* characters. Had a lot of fun over the weeks. One day ban is a paltry price to pay for that. Plus I got really lucky with 7* pulls and those characters stayed on my account. So a big kudos to the guys at Kabam. And thanks to the community for supporting fellow gamers in this situation
This person played an online game in the way it’s supposed to be played. Tapped on a button and got what the game gave him. The game gave him too much stuff?
This person played an online game in the way it’s supposed to be played. Tapped on a button and got what the game gave him. The game gave him too much stuff?
That’s on them, not the person playing the game.
Just stop already. That is not even remotely how it works.
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Knowing people who use it, and work with it, there's nothing I've yet heard so far to dispute that statement.
That’s why I know how complex such reports and query’s are. I think it’s exactly how you described it 😆🫠🫠
Just thought of a workaround on cashed-in 7* shards - NEGATIVE BALANCE. Works for unit refunders, right? You're welcome, kabam...
Assuming a standard drop rate of 250 of the 1250 being 6*, someone who opened them all would be at a negative 2.5 million 6* star shards.
Kabam could have been much harder with those who ran with the exploit. I would hate to be the Dev tasked with clearing this all up.
The fix probably sucked. The person that effed it is hopefully either fired or a relative of an executive and got a raise.
I guess this is due to the fact that there was no direct violation of ToS in this situation. I don't really feel sorry for my account if something happened to it, but there are people who have invested a lot of money in the game. Applying too harsh measures could cause too much wrangling in a situation where the company clearly doesn't have much of a legal standing.
That's all the legal standing they need.
And, I guess, you still need to google what a bug is
I think you’re right. Opening crystals is not “unusual”.
I didn’t get or open these crystals.
I think folks that did should get to keep the rewards and send a lesson to Kabaam to stop making such huge mistakes.
A major post like: state of the game right now.
Kinda like the old roadmap would be a good start imo.
Section 5.of the ToS states you don't own your account.
An official post regarding exploits from the MCOC team. https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/136840/regarding-bounty-mission-exploit#latest
https://www.cyberdefinitions.com/definitions/BUG.html
Definition of bug. Technically what happened isn't a bug by definition. It's not even a glitch.
This wasn't an "extra zero". This was a code error that gave crystals instead of shards.
You can spin it however you want. There's more.than enough standing to show that you're wrong on every level.
But you honestly have to hold the game folks more accountable than the people that took advantage of the exploit right?
I play for fun and have never exploited or cheated.
Well, something was legitimately offered as a choice for a certain progression. People that had the right to choose their progression s reward, did chose it. That s how games work, we don't make choices based on speculating that they may be bugged. If I was looking at July 4th s Odin offer and I was "oh man, this is way too much, it must be bugged" and didn't purchased it, I would ve been the stupid one, right? But I forgot, there s money involved there.
Not players fault for playing the game.
I’m all in on next exploit.
It’s their fault and not yours.
This person played an online game in the way it’s supposed to be played. Tapped on a button and got what the game gave him.
The game gave him too much stuff?
That’s on them, not the person playing the game.