Revamp act 4 and 5, compensation or allow progression reset.

Iammeat5Iammeat5 Member Posts: 127 ★
edited August 2023 in General Discussion
If kabam is not going to allow us to gain the rewards from the act 4 and 5 revamp we should he given the chance to reset our progression. I would happily redo this content for the current rewards. Even if it would require all progression to be reset and have to redo act 8. The fact we were given useless compensation for acts 1 2 and 3 (minus the units) and now barred from compensation is absurd. No one needed 1 2 and 3 compensation, yet we received it but not this time.

I saw a comment on the original thread stating it will take a significant amount of time to find the affected summoners who completed 4 and 5 in the last 90 days and who needs to get what in compensation. Wouldn't it even make more sense from a business stand point to use that amount of man power and time working on other issues in the game by simply compensating everyone?

The message being sent here is that we shouldn't bother completing story content fully at this point. Kabam is going to 100% update act 6 rewards now being as their *slightly* better than act 5 due to the update. Yet it's arguable that act 6 completion is 5-10 times harder. So by not compensating everyone their essential making it is so any content with underwhelming rewards will be revamped in the future and you'll be left out if you choose to do the content now as opposed to later. I wasted thousands of units to complete act 5 as I'm sure many many other people did (for even at the time) incredibly underwhelming rewards.

You are setting an awful precedent here kabam and I highly encourage anyone who has not completed act 6 to NOT do so anytime soon. You'll probably miss out on a 7* nexus selector with a 1-2 generic gem and a randomized 2-3 generic gem thats "to give less accomplished players their first r3 7*"🥴
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  • aishTheKingaishTheKing Member Posts: 38 ★
    its glitched anyway new peoplle cant even get past it because they have 120k hp and 5k attack
  • Iammeat5Iammeat5 Member Posts: 127 ★
    Dirty_Dozz said:

    It really isn't that big a deal...with the influx of endgame/late progression content (Carinas Challenges, EoP, BGs, etc), it makes sense that they're allowing people to reach a point sooner that will allow them to participate. I don't get why everyone is making such a fuss out of a simple 6* 1-2 gem, plus some other stuff. "We had to work for that stuff, and it's just being handed to them". Okay, and? So what, because we had to suffer through miserable content, everyone else has to as well?

    2 r2 6* gems, 15k 6* shards, 3m+ gold, 400+ t6iso, countless rank up materials, more than a few 3 and 4 star relics. 1000+ units. I'd say it's a little more than a simple 6* 1-2 gem, "plus some other stuff" I'd advise you to actually go look at the rewards you're being barred from. Act 5 was not "miserable content I suffered thru" it was difficult and didn't have rewards that reflected it at that time either, it was significantly harder with the Champs we had back then as well. If newer players are receiving easier content for 10x the reward then yes I want the rewards I should have been given back then.
  • Iammeat5Iammeat5 Member Posts: 127 ★
    Dirty_Dozz said:

    It really isn't that big a deal...with the influx of endgame/late progression content (Carinas Challenges, EoP, BGs, etc), it makes sense that they're allowing people to reach a point sooner that will allow them to participate. I don't get why everyone is making such a fuss out of a simple 6* 1-2 gem, plus some other stuff. "We had to work for that stuff, and it's just being handed to them". Okay, and? So what, because we had to suffer through miserable content, everyone else has to as well?

    And also the biggest problem here is that if we allow kabam to do this, we will not get compensation in the future for content rework. You understand this correct? Not making a fuss here will result in more serious problems in the future.
  • DemonzfyreDemonzfyre Member Posts: 22,024 ★★★★★
    Y'all are just weird about this stuff.
  • JustWantTheRewardsJustWantTheRewards Member Posts: 442 ★★★
    Iammeat5 said:



    Dirty_Dozz said:

    It really isn't that big a deal...with the influx of endgame/late progression content (Carinas Challenges, EoP, BGs, etc), it makes sense that they're allowing people to reach a point sooner that will allow them to participate. I don't get why everyone is making such a fuss out of a simple 6* 1-2 gem, plus some other stuff. "We had to work for that stuff, and it's just being handed to them". Okay, and? So what, because we had to suffer through miserable content, everyone else has to as well?

    And also the biggest problem here is that if we allow kabam to do this, we will not get compensation in the future for content rework. You understand this correct?
    That's been the case for 3 years now. It was fine then, it'll be alright going forward. So far story content is only getting easier to help new players get to end game content faster, which hasn't hurt end game players at all.
  • DRTODRTO Member Posts: 1,666 ★★★★★
    Iammeat5 said:


    The message being sent here is that we shouldn't bother completing story content fully at this point. Kabam is going to 100% update act 6 rewards now being as their *slightly* better than act 5 due to the update. Yet it's arguable that act 6 completion is 5-10 times harder. So by not compensating everyone their essential making it is so any content with underwhelming rewards will be revamped in the future and you'll be left out if you choose to do the content now as opposed to later. I wasted thousands of units to complete act 5 as I'm sure many many other people did (for even at the time) incredibly underwhelming rewards.

    You do realize 5.4 was released all the way back in January 2018 and they only just updated the rewards now over 5 and a half years later. So if you want to wait for Act 6 to be updated have fun doing it in 2028. Or, you can quit whining that Kabam is making progression faster and just focus on doing Act 6 and beyond, a much better use of your time as it has better rewards. Just cause you did something in the past does not entitle you to receive any benefit, just move on
  • Dirty_DozzDirty_Dozz Member Posts: 479 ★★★
    Iammeat5 said:

    Dirty_Dozz said:

    It really isn't that big a deal...with the influx of endgame/late progression content (Carinas Challenges, EoP, BGs, etc), it makes sense that they're allowing people to reach a point sooner that will allow them to participate. I don't get why everyone is making such a fuss out of a simple 6* 1-2 gem, plus some other stuff. "We had to work for that stuff, and it's just being handed to them". Okay, and? So what, because we had to suffer through miserable content, everyone else has to as well?

    2 r2 6* gems, 15k 6* shards, 3m+ gold, 400+ t6iso, countless rank up materials, more than a few 3 and 4 star relics. 1000+ units. I'd say it's a little more than a simple 6* 1-2 gem, "plus some other stuff" I'd advise you to actually go look at the rewards you're being barred from. Act 5 was not "miserable content I suffered thru" it was difficult and didn't have rewards that reflected it at that time either, it was significantly harder with the Champs we had back then as well. If newer players are receiving easier content for 10x the reward then yes I want the rewards I should have been given back then.
    But those aren't "the rewards you should have been given back then". They're the updated rewards to help newer players access the content I listed above. Those rewards aren't even game breaking for later accounts (which I'm sure is just more fuel for the "give it to everyone" crowd). Honestly, only the units and the ISO are particularly useful, as BGs has plenty of Shards and Catalysts, and the glory store has cheap rank up mats too.

    And no, it's not really an issue to me. I don't see why I should get compensation for reworks of content I completed literally years ago. If anything, I could see if they expanded the availability a bit, to maybe 6-12 months, rather than 3, or maybe everyone who is uncollected or under. But giving it to everyone is absurd, especially since I'm sure there are a huge number of players who completed that content when it came out, and already have more 6*s than they know what to do with.
  • Dirty_DozzDirty_Dozz Member Posts: 479 ★★★
    Go_To said:

    Why is everyone so pissed about this? Like, would I like the rewards? Yes. Do I need and demand the rewards? No.

    I hate to resort to this descriptor, but it really stands out as "entitlement". The fact that there are people who think that the updated rewards are "the rewards they should have got" is crazy.
  • Go_ToGo_To Member Posts: 317 ★★★
    Dirty_Dozz said:

    Go_To said:

    Why is everyone so pissed about this? Like, would I like the rewards? Yes. Do I need and demand the rewards? No.

    I hate to resort to this descriptor, but it really stands out as "entitlement". The fact that there are people who think that the updated rewards are "the rewards they should have got" is crazy.
    Exactly. There’s plenty of easy content to do nowadays that gives better rewards. At least leave one of the few things that’s actually a unique and fun challenge. I honestly wish they had more permanent content that required lower stars
  • ahmynutsahmynuts Member Posts: 7,558 ★★★★★
    You really wrote a whole novel for this
  • Iammeat5Iammeat5 Member Posts: 127 ★
    Dirty_Dozz said:

    It really isn't

    Go_To said:

    Why is everyone so pissed about this? Like, would I like the rewards? Yes. Do I need and demand the rewards? No.

    The main point in standing my ground here and making valid points that are honestly pretty undesputable (basically everyone's argument is stop complaining, I don't hear any reasonable counters for my points) is because this is a major change to what kabam has done in the past and is going to adversely affect us in the future. They're setting in motion an end goal of not giving out compensation as a whole. It will start with "only affected players" then continue downhill to us not receiving anything.

    This company makes enough money as is and every decision they make(including this one) is based around making more money as their end goal. Less compensation = more spending
  • Iammeat5Iammeat5 Member Posts: 127 ★
    ahmynuts said:

    You really wrote a whole novel for this

    Gotta put alot of pressure on big companies such as this one and make multiple points that they won't easily be able to dismiss
  • Iammeat5Iammeat5 Member Posts: 127 ★
    Dirty_Dozz said:

    Go_To said:

    Why is everyone so pissed about this? Like, would I like the rewards? Yes. Do I need and demand the rewards? No.

    I hate to resort to this descriptor, but it really stands out as "entitlement". The fact that there are people who think that the updated rewards are "the rewards they should have got" is crazy.
    Refer to the the reply below yours. The points you've made are admissible at best and you've resorted to for lack of a better term, name calling. As a child would when unable to dispute.
  • JustWantTheRewardsJustWantTheRewards Member Posts: 442 ★★★
    Iammeat5 said:

    Dirty_Dozz said:

    Go_To said:

    Why is everyone so pissed about this? Like, would I like the rewards? Yes. Do I need and demand the rewards? No.

    I hate to resort to this descriptor, but it really stands out as "entitlement". The fact that there are people who think that the updated rewards are "the rewards they should have got" is crazy.
    Refer to the the reply below yours. The points you've made are admissible at best and you've resorted to for lack of a better term, name calling. As a child would when unable to dispute.
    You say it's undisputable, but what reason even is there for giving every player these rewards? They exist with the express purpose of helping new players progress to Cavalier and beyond. In what way does that purpose fit you?
  • Qwerty12345Qwerty12345 Member Posts: 839 ★★★★
    we already have players able to make cavalier in like 5 days, TB in like 10 days, in Paragon in 30 days when they do end game challanges.

    There is no substitute for "getting good". While I appreciate players not wanting to stagnate for too long... racing new players just a little bit further, just to run head long into the Champion or Grandmaster fight isn't doing them many favors.

    That's like making the first few years of school easier, and then when a studient doesn't know their multiplcation tables and is asked to do algebra... will struggle that much more.

    Making it so players can just "autofight the collector", and not learn from things like bane, masochism, etc... is just going to have them hit a harder, and rather than wanting to "get good"... it will see so hard... they will quit.

    removing paths from act 4 so you arne't doing "the same thing 10 times" was the right idea... but it should have ben replaced with "act 4.5" level content and level 5.5 content... which are the back issues. Funny how there are requests now for more of them... at a time when we need those for players to get better... but instead, they will either be thrown to the wolves in AW/battleground unprepared, or just "get stuck" a couple chapters further down because they have a better roster but he same skill.
  • Iammeat5Iammeat5 Member Posts: 127 ★
    JustWantTheRewards said:

    Iammeat5 said:

    Dirty_Dozz said:

    Go_To said:

    Why is everyone so pissed about this? Like, would I like the rewards? Yes. Do I need and demand the rewards? No.

    I hate to resort to this descriptor, but it really stands out as "entitlement". The fact that there are people who think that the updated rewards are "the rewards they should have got" is crazy.
    Refer to the the reply below yours. The points you've made are admissible at best and you've resorted to for lack of a better term, name calling. As a child would when unable to dispute.
    You say it's undisputable, but what reason even is there for giving every player these rewards? They exist with the express purpose of helping new players progress to Cavalier and beyond. In what way does that purpose fit you?
    Well looks like someone gave your answer and put you in your place🤷‍♂️ I told you on the other thread I wouldn't respond to you due to the fact you're either a troll or do not know what you're talking about.
  • Iammeat5Iammeat5 Member Posts: 127 ★
    Qwerty12345 said:

    we already have players able to make cavalier in like 5 days, TB in like 10 days, in Paragon in 30 days when they do end game challanges.

    There is no substitute for "getting good". While I appreciate players not wanting to stagnate for too long... racing new players just a little bit further, just to run head long into the Champion or Grandmaster fight isn't doing them many favors.

    That's like making the first few years of school easier, and then when a studient doesn't know their multiplcation tables and is asked to do algebra... will struggle that much more.

    Making it so players can just "autofight the collector", and not learn from things like bane, masochism, etc... is just going to have them hit a harder, and rather than wanting to "get good"... it will see so hard... they will quit.

    removing paths from act 4 so you arne't doing "the same thing 10 times" was the right idea... but it should have ben replaced with "act 4.5" level content and level 5.5 content... which are the back issues. Funny how there are requests now for more of them... at a time when we need those for players to get better... but instead, they will either be thrown to the wolves in AW/battleground unprepared, or just "get stuck" a couple chapters further down because they have a better roster but he same skill.

    I agree with you that the difficulty should not have been changed. It was near perfect where is was in difficulty between act 4 and 6 helping transition players to become better.
  • JustWantTheRewardsJustWantTheRewards Member Posts: 442 ★★★
    Iammeat5 said:

    JustWantTheRewards said:

    Iammeat5 said:

    Dirty_Dozz said:

    Go_To said:

    Why is everyone so pissed about this? Like, would I like the rewards? Yes. Do I need and demand the rewards? No.

    I hate to resort to this descriptor, but it really stands out as "entitlement". The fact that there are people who think that the updated rewards are "the rewards they should have got" is crazy.
    Refer to the the reply below yours. The points you've made are admissible at best and you've resorted to for lack of a better term, name calling. As a child would when unable to dispute.
    You say it's undisputable, but what reason even is there for giving every player these rewards? They exist with the express purpose of helping new players progress to Cavalier and beyond. In what way does that purpose fit you?
    Well looks like someone gave your answer and put you in your place🤷‍♂️ I told you on the other thread I wouldn't respond to you due to the fact you're either a troll or do not know what you're talking about.
    That other person wasn't responding to me at all. You literally just can't give a valid reason why you should have rewards that weren't made for you. They just aren't yours man, it's that simple
  • DemonzfyreDemonzfyre Member Posts: 22,024 ★★★★★
    edited August 2023
    Iammeat5 said:

    ahmynuts said:

    You really wrote a whole novel for this

    Gotta put alot of pressure on big companies such as this one and make multiple points that they won't easily be able to dismiss
    Just so you know, you're applying the same amount of pressure to Kabam as a feature sitting in the ground.
  • Iammeat5Iammeat5 Member Posts: 127 ★
    JustWantTheRewards said:

    Iammeat5 said:

    JustWantTheRewards said:

    Iammeat5 said:

    Dirty_Dozz said:

    Go_To said:

    Why is everyone so pissed about this? Like, would I like the rewards? Yes. Do I need and demand the rewards? No.

    I hate to resort to this descriptor, but it really stands out as "entitlement". The fact that there are people who think that the updated rewards are "the rewards they should have got" is crazy.
    Refer to the the reply below yours. The points you've made are admissible at best and you've resorted to for lack of a better term, name calling. As a child would when unable to dispute.
    You say it's undisputable, but what reason even is there for giving every player these rewards? They exist with the express purpose of helping new players progress to Cavalier and beyond. In what way does that purpose fit you?
    Well looks like someone gave your answer and put you in your place🤷‍♂️ I told you on the other thread I wouldn't respond to you due to the fact you're either a troll or do not know what you're talking about.
    That other person wasn't responding to me at all. You literally just can't give a valid reason why you should have rewards that weren't made for you. They just aren't yours man, it's that simple
    His comment was made for you lol. You are truly something else 😂
  • Iammeat5Iammeat5 Member Posts: 127 ★
    Demonzfyre said:

    Iammeat5 said:

    ahmynuts said:

    You really wrote a whole novel for this

    Gotta put alot of pressure on big companies such as this one and make multiple points that they won't easily be able to dismiss
    Just so you know, you're applying the same amount of pressure to Kabam as a feature sitting in the ground.
    I understand. It's better than remaining silent tho.
  • DemonzfyreDemonzfyre Member Posts: 22,024 ★★★★★
    Iammeat5 said:

    Demonzfyre said:

    Iammeat5 said:

    ahmynuts said:

    You really wrote a whole novel for this

    Gotta put alot of pressure on big companies such as this one and make multiple points that they won't easily be able to dismiss
    Just so you know, you're applying the same amount of pressure to Kabam as a feature sitting in the ground.
    I understand. It's better than remaining silent tho.
    It's really not. Not a single person has agreed with you. You're making this post because of FOMO. Play the game normally and you'll get 10 times what they are doing in act 5. I mean you seriously suggested resetting act 6, 7 and 8 progress for low level rewards.
  • JustWantTheRewardsJustWantTheRewards Member Posts: 442 ★★★
    Iammeat5 said:

    JustWantTheRewards said:

    Iammeat5 said:

    JustWantTheRewards said:

    Iammeat5 said:

    Dirty_Dozz said:

    Go_To said:

    Why is everyone so pissed about this? Like, would I like the rewards? Yes. Do I need and demand the rewards? No.

    I hate to resort to this descriptor, but it really stands out as "entitlement". The fact that there are people who think that the updated rewards are "the rewards they should have got" is crazy.
    Refer to the the reply below yours. The points you've made are admissible at best and you've resorted to for lack of a better term, name calling. As a child would when unable to dispute.
    You say it's undisputable, but what reason even is there for giving every player these rewards? They exist with the express purpose of helping new players progress to Cavalier and beyond. In what way does that purpose fit you?
    Well looks like someone gave your answer and put you in your place🤷‍♂️ I told you on the other thread I wouldn't respond to you due to the fact you're either a troll or do not know what you're talking about.
    That other person wasn't responding to me at all. You literally just can't give a valid reason why you should have rewards that weren't made for you. They just aren't yours man, it's that simple
    His comment was made for you lol. You are truly something else 😂
    It didn't answer the question I asked at all, I don't see how you could interpret that as made for me
  • Iammeat5Iammeat5 Member Posts: 127 ★
    Demonzfyre said:

    Iammeat5 said:

    Demonzfyre said:

    Iammeat5 said:

    ahmynuts said:

    You really wrote a whole novel for this

    Gotta put alot of pressure on big companies such as this one and make multiple points that they won't easily be able to dismiss
    Just so you know, you're applying the same amount of pressure to Kabam as a feature sitting in the ground.
    I understand. It's better than remaining silent tho.
    It's really not. Not a single person has agreed with you. You're making this post because of FOMO. Play the game normally and you'll get 10 times what they are doing in act 5. I mean you seriously suggested resetting act 6, 7 and 8 progress for low level rewards.
    The majority of people who are going to comment on this (yourself included) are either going to be idiots or trolls. The post is being read, and stays at the top of the discussion page. Which is the point. Who is going to comment "I agree" almost no one. Mostly idiots and trolls who want attention are going to. Yourself included
  • Iammeat5Iammeat5 Member Posts: 127 ★
    JustWantTheRewards said:

    Iammeat5 said:

    JustWantTheRewards said:

    Iammeat5 said:

    JustWantTheRewards said:

    Iammeat5 said:

    Dirty_Dozz said:

    Go_To said:

    Why is everyone so pissed about this? Like, would I like the rewards? Yes. Do I need and demand the rewards? No.

    I hate to resort to this descriptor, but it really stands out as "entitlement". The fact that there are people who think that the updated rewards are "the rewards they should have got" is crazy.
    Refer to the the reply below yours. The points you've made are admissible at best and you've resorted to for lack of a better term, name calling. As a child would when unable to dispute.
    You say it's undisputable, but what reason even is there for giving every player these rewards? They exist with the express purpose of helping new players progress to Cavalier and beyond. In what way does that purpose fit you?
    Well looks like someone gave your answer and put you in your place🤷‍♂️ I told you on the other thread I wouldn't respond to you due to the fact you're either a troll or do not know what you're talking about.
    That other person wasn't responding to me at all. You literally just can't give a valid reason why you should have rewards that weren't made for you. They just aren't yours man, it's that simple
    His comment was made for you lol. You are truly something else 😂
    It didn't answer the question I asked at all, I don't see how you could interpret that as made for me
    😂 I suggest re reading your comment and his response
  • DemonzfyreDemonzfyre Member Posts: 22,024 ★★★★★
    Iammeat5 said:

    Demonzfyre said:

    Iammeat5 said:

    Demonzfyre said:

    Iammeat5 said:

    ahmynuts said:

    You really wrote a whole novel for this

    Gotta put alot of pressure on big companies such as this one and make multiple points that they won't easily be able to dismiss
    Just so you know, you're applying the same amount of pressure to Kabam as a feature sitting in the ground.
    I understand. It's better than remaining silent tho.
    It's really not. Not a single person has agreed with you. You're making this post because of FOMO. Play the game normally and you'll get 10 times what they are doing in act 5. I mean you seriously suggested resetting act 6, 7 and 8 progress for low level rewards.
    The majority of people who are going to comment on this (yourself included) are either going to be idiots or trolls. The post is being read, and stays at the top of the discussion page. Which is the point. Who is going to comment "I agree" almost no one. Mostly idiots and trolls who want attention are going to. Yourself included
    Right. So you get on your high horse earlier and scold someone for calling you entitled and now you yourself is calling those who don't agree with you, idiots and trolls. So.... You don't like being called entitled but it's ok for you to insult everyone else? Awesome.
  • JustWantTheRewardsJustWantTheRewards Member Posts: 442 ★★★
    Iammeat5 said:

    Demonzfyre said:

    Iammeat5 said:

    Demonzfyre said:

    Iammeat5 said:

    ahmynuts said:

    You really wrote a whole novel for this

    Gotta put alot of pressure on big companies such as this one and make multiple points that they won't easily be able to dismiss
    Just so you know, you're applying the same amount of pressure to Kabam as a feature sitting in the ground.
    I understand. It's better than remaining silent tho.
    It's really not. Not a single person has agreed with you. You're making this post because of FOMO. Play the game normally and you'll get 10 times what they are doing in act 5. I mean you seriously suggested resetting act 6, 7 and 8 progress for low level rewards.
    The majority of people who are going to comment on this (yourself included) are either going to be idiots or trolls. The post is being read, and stays at the top of the discussion page. Which is the point. Who is going to comment "I agree" almost no one. Mostly idiots and trolls who want attention are going to. Yourself included
    If any mod sees this thread, all they'll see is a person calling everyone who doesn't agree (most people) idiots and trolls. If you think they're gonna take that as constructive criticism and do what you ask, I'd highly recommend rethinking that.
  • ElementalistElementalist Member Posts: 1
    I would like to ask is Kabam going to compensate me for the missing mastery points
    Because I only completed the act 4 completion not 100% And back then the mastery’s were in the 100% but now there in the completion but it says I’ve already claimed them when I haven’t, and I’m not sure if I’ve done it 90 days ago or not but if I did it 91 days ago will they still compensate me for the mastery points atleast?
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