When Will Relic Whiffing be Fixed?

DrZolaDrZola Member Posts: 9,130 ★★★★★
in General Discussion
Title says it all. How can a successful, profitable, long-running game introduce a feature and promote it heavily in game, all the while allowing it to malfunction in regular game play?

Do some relics seem to perform more reliably than others? Sure—Gambit is a serial whiffer, while Storm feels pretty safe. Others fall in between.

Like other bugs in game, no real timetable, no relief given, no updates. And a handful of threads shunted back onto the Bugs page hardly constitutes notice or coverage.

What does it take to get things like this taken seriously?

Dr. Zola

Comments

  • PikoluPikolu Member, Guardian Posts: 7,787 Guardian

  • AxewAxew Member Posts: 620 ★★★★
    Doesn’t seem like they’re focusing on relics for the time being. Especially since they stopped making new ones
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,576 ★★★★★
    Axew said:

    Doesn’t seem like they’re focusing on relics for the time being. Especially since they stopped making new ones

    That doesn't mean they're not working on fixes. It just means they freed up some design resources.
  • Panchulon21Panchulon21 Member Posts: 2,605 ★★★★★
    Lol- my hulk whiffs after hulk relic comes back.
  • Sachhyam257Sachhyam257 Member Posts: 1,205 ★★★★
    edited August 2023
    Scarlet witch relic on sassy almost always whiffs, I don't even bother throwing it anymore. Literally made a post about it like 3 months ago on the bugs and known issues page, still not fixed.
  • iDestroyerZiDestroyerZ Member Posts: 729 ★★★★
    Interesting title that they choose, there's plenty of relics whiffing and somehow they only awknowledge the gambit one .-.
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,576 ★★★★★
    iDestroyerZ said:

    Interesting title that they choose, there's plenty of relics whiffing and somehow they only awknowledge the gambit one .-.

    I suspect it would be an issue they look at overall. The same happened when *trigger warning* Root was looked at.
  • iDestroyerZiDestroyerZ Member Posts: 729 ★★★★
    DrZola said:

    Generally speaking, relics are unreliable across the board. They are (for me) primarily a combo extender, especially since much of the benefit is pretty marginal.

    So if extending the combo is paramount, any malfunction that vitiates that function significantly reduces the utility of relics. Finishing off the easiest Brutal chapters today, I’ve faced more relic whiffing (as well as frame rate issues, which I believe is connected with the relic issues) than I did for the hardest chapter.

    Posting on the Trello board is a start @Pikolu —that much I will applaud. But this is silly. Relics are strongly suggested (if not almost required) in some content. If I recall correctly, they will be very useful in 8.3. How is this not front and center and worked out via beta as soon as possible?

    I don’t think the team allows bugs to persist for devious reasons, but I admit I find myself gaining a little sympathy with those tinfoil hatters who suggest they do—if only because bugs just languish and languish in this game.

    Dr. Zola

    The main place i find this bug extremely annoying is BG, that could easily cost you a round and even the entire match...imagine you losing a round that you finished quickly but lost cause you got clapped after using the relic -.-
  • Crine60Crine60 Member Posts: 1,435 ★★★★
    edited August 2023
    iDestroyerZ said:

    Interesting title that they choose, there's plenty of relics whiffing and somehow they only awknowledge the gambit one .-.

    IIRC they did this once before where they listed a whiffing issue on Trello that only mentioned 1 relic, and despite many posts asking if they were aware it was multiple relics doing it and would they be fixing all of them, they just ignored us and when the "fix" came out it was only for that 1 relic. I don't have any faith they will address more than what they specifically mentioned, if they can even accomplish that.
  • DUHveedDUHveed Member Posts: 357 ★★★
    I definitely hope the “down time” with no new relics they take as an opportunity to fix the whiffing issue. Rather frustrating not being able to use them reliably
  • Manup456Manup456 Member Posts: 891 ★★★★
    Maybe when Kabam stops whiffing them self because this has been and issue since they were released.
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  • DrZolaDrZola Member Posts: 9,130 ★★★★★
    edited August 2023
    Athos69 said:

    Would have been fixed ages ago if the striker was extending the stun or something.

    Normally, I would disagree with this kind of comment. But the longevity of the relic bugs (as well as other game mechanic issues) combined with the minimal updates/communication tend to make me somewhat sympathetic to your point.

    Is the game in the mechanical death spiral it was in when Kabam Taps-a-Lot was trying to resolve the Unity issue? Not at all. But there are a number of persistent issues that make clean game play difficult in the best of circumstances, nigh impossible in the worst. And it is very, very frustrating.

    Dr. Zola
  • Ironman3000Ironman3000 Member Posts: 1,958 ★★★★★
    It's really cool to lose a BG match because your relic whiffs and you get punched in the face.
  • World EaterWorld Eater Member Posts: 3,758 ★★★★★
    Kabam will eventually sell the fix with a purchase of an Odin ,
  • J4mmy_d0dger123J4mmy_d0dger123 Member Posts: 297 ★★
    edited August 2023
    Probably programmed by the same morons that control BG ai
  • DrZolaDrZola Member Posts: 9,130 ★★★★★
    Not that I expected a fix in 10 days, but given the continual malfunctioning of relics, a different question comes to mind: does anyone on the team consider it untimely to have offered a $69.99 relics package in the store this past week?

    Relics malfunction for me regularly. I don’t think I’m the only one. I think it might be appreciated if selling relics for anything other than in-game currency were stopped until the mechanics of relics get ironed out.

    Dr. Zola
  • BigBlueOxBigBlueOx Member Posts: 2,384 ★★★★★
    I think general acknowledgment with an update on why this occurs would go a long way. Is it because of the latency/input issues interacting with relics? Is this a completely separate issue specific to each relic and interaction with attackers hit boxes?
  • DrZolaDrZola Member Posts: 9,130 ★★★★★
    BigBlueOx said:

    I think general acknowledgment with an update on why this occurs would go a long way. Is it because of the latency/input issues interacting with relics? Is this a completely separate issue specific to each relic and interaction with attackers hit boxes?

    To me this is 100% a transparency issue. I don’t tend to use items for TB EQ, and I haven’t this month. But it is disappointing to have strikers whiff (or spontaneously activate) in a fight I have under control.

    Just give it to the community straight. It appears to be a broken feature of the game. Allowing it to continue without clear notice and relief doesn’t seem to be the way to build trust and confidence from a customer base.

    Dr. Zola
  • pseudosanepseudosane Member, Guardian Posts: 3,995 Guardian
    It is a known issue. I've personally reported it many times. Fixes are incoming in the September/October updates to help with this.
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