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  • Manup456Manup456 Member Posts: 891 ★★★★
    @Zuro this “The July 4th deals definitely ruined the games economy” is the core of the issue when players were able to buy such a huge roster advantage over others in 1 day and the game doesn’t offer enough resources or content that could get you anywhere close that. Wait until Cyber Monday it will create an even bigger gap. When they offered these type of deals before (also deals were never that big) we didn’t have BGs and it’s causing issues and after Cyber Monday forget it the gap will be insane.
  • DemonzfyreDemonzfyre Member Posts: 22,017 ★★★★★

    Josh2507 said:

    You do understand that a competitive game mode is supposed to be... competitive right?

    The whole point is that you wont always win.

    There will be skill caps, and roster caps. And only the best of the best will actually make it to the top.

    You do understand this is a competitive mode right?

    There should not be a roster caps in this and that also when you can basically shop your roster.
    What makes you think competitive modes shouldn't have roster caps?
  • Omega_RunnerOmega_Runner Member Posts: 143 ★★

    Josh2507 said:

    You do understand that a competitive game mode is supposed to be... competitive right?

    The whole point is that you wont always win.

    There will be skill caps, and roster caps. And only the best of the best will actually make it to the top.

    You do understand this is a competitive mode right?

    There should not be a roster caps in this and that also when you can basically shop your roster.
    What makes you think competitive modes shouldn't have roster caps?
    If you can purchase your roster, then roster cap shouldn't be there in bg.
    And if you say keeping roster cap is competitive then your definition of being competitive is very different than mine.
  • Omega_RunnerOmega_Runner Member Posts: 143 ★★
    Josh2507 said:

    Josh2507 said:

    You do understand that a competitive game mode is supposed to be... competitive right?

    The whole point is that you wont always win.

    There will be skill caps, and roster caps. And only the best of the best will actually make it to the top.

    You do understand this is a competitive mode right?

    There should not be a roster caps in this and that also when you can basically shop your roster.
    Building your roster over the years is one of the most fundamental parts of this game. If we go with your idea of removing roster caps, then you might as well give everyone every champ. Except no, that wont happen because it makes no sense.
    This is the issue, game launched as mostly single player with progression based in 2014~15, which is nice.
    But later in 2020 multiplayer games started to gain lots of traction and kabam somehow thought their progression based single player game will anyhow fit with multiplayer competitive scenario as well.
    And that's why bg cones into picture and even single player modes are dry now.
  • Omega_RunnerOmega_Runner Member Posts: 143 ★★
    Josh2507 said:

    Josh2507 said:

    You do understand that a competitive game mode is supposed to be... competitive right?

    The whole point is that you wont always win.

    There will be skill caps, and roster caps. And only the best of the best will actually make it to the top.

    You do understand this is a competitive mode right?

    There should not be a roster caps in this and that also when you can basically shop your roster.
    Building your roster over the years is one of the most fundamental parts of this game. If we go with your idea of removing roster caps, then you might as well give everyone every champ. Except no, that wont happen because it makes no sense.
    Anyway, building your roster over year is a joke now.
  • DemonzfyreDemonzfyre Member Posts: 22,017 ★★★★★

    Josh2507 said:

    You do understand that a competitive game mode is supposed to be... competitive right?

    The whole point is that you wont always win.

    There will be skill caps, and roster caps. And only the best of the best will actually make it to the top.

    You do understand this is a competitive mode right?

    There should not be a roster caps in this and that also when you can basically shop your roster.
    What makes you think competitive modes shouldn't have roster caps?
    If you can purchase your roster, then roster cap shouldn't be there in bg.
    And if you say keeping roster cap is competitive then your definition of being competitive is very different than mine.
    So what exactly is your suggestion to make a cavalier account competitive with a end game Paragon account when they're going for the same rewards?
  • DemonzfyreDemonzfyre Member Posts: 22,017 ★★★★★

    Josh2507 said:

    Josh2507 said:

    You do understand that a competitive game mode is supposed to be... competitive right?

    The whole point is that you wont always win.

    There will be skill caps, and roster caps. And only the best of the best will actually make it to the top.

    You do understand this is a competitive mode right?

    There should not be a roster caps in this and that also when you can basically shop your roster.
    Building your roster over the years is one of the most fundamental parts of this game. If we go with your idea of removing roster caps, then you might as well give everyone every champ. Except no, that wont happen because it makes no sense.
    This is the issue, game launched as mostly single player with progression based in 2014~15, which is nice.
    But later in 2020 multiplayer games started to gain lots of traction and kabam somehow thought their progression based single player game will anyhow fit with multiplayer competitive scenario as well.
    And that's why bg cones into picture and even single player modes are dry now.
    Arena has been part of the game since the very beginning. While not true PvP, you still had to have deep rosters to win. AW came along and that added another layer of needing roster depth or basically Mystics (Mystic wars anyone?).

    AQ came along and it wasn't really anything until they introduced prestige. All of this was well before 2020.
  • Omega_RunnerOmega_Runner Member Posts: 143 ★★

    Josh2507 said:

    You do understand that a competitive game mode is supposed to be... competitive right?

    The whole point is that you wont always win.

    There will be skill caps, and roster caps. And only the best of the best will actually make it to the top.

    You do understand this is a competitive mode right?

    There should not be a roster caps in this and that also when you can basically shop your roster.
    What makes you think competitive modes shouldn't have roster caps?
    If you can purchase your roster, then roster cap shouldn't be there in bg.
    And if you say keeping roster cap is competitive then your definition of being competitive is very different than mine.
    So what exactly is your suggestion to make a cavalier account competitive with a end game Paragon account when they're going for the same rewards?

    Josh2507 said:

    Josh2507 said:

    You do understand that a competitive game mode is supposed to be... competitive right?

    The whole point is that you wont always win.

    There will be skill caps, and roster caps. And only the best of the best will actually make it to the top.

    You do understand this is a competitive mode right?

    There should not be a roster caps in this and that also when you can basically shop your roster.
    Building your roster over the years is one of the most fundamental parts of this game. If we go with your idea of removing roster caps, then you might as well give everyone every champ. Except no, that wont happen because it makes no sense.
    This is the issue, game launched as mostly single player with progression based in 2014~15, which is nice.
    But later in 2020 multiplayer games started to gain lots of traction and kabam somehow thought their progression based single player game will anyhow fit with multiplayer competitive scenario as well.
    And that's why bg cones into picture and even single player modes are dry now.
    Arena has been part of the game since the very beginning. While not true PvP, you still had to have deep rosters to win. AW came along and that added another layer of needing roster depth or basically Mystics (Mystic wars anyone?).

    AQ came along and it wasn't really anything until they introduced prestige. All of this was well before 2020.
    Non of them is true PvP, also in war you can manage with even r4's with boost
  • DemonzfyreDemonzfyre Member Posts: 22,017 ★★★★★
    edited August 2023

    Josh2507 said:

    You do understand that a competitive game mode is supposed to be... competitive right?

    The whole point is that you wont always win.

    There will be skill caps, and roster caps. And only the best of the best will actually make it to the top.

    You do understand this is a competitive mode right?

    There should not be a roster caps in this and that also when you can basically shop your roster.
    What makes you think competitive modes shouldn't have roster caps?
    If you can purchase your roster, then roster cap shouldn't be there in bg.
    And if you say keeping roster cap is competitive then your definition of being competitive is very different than mine.
    So what exactly is your suggestion to make a cavalier account competitive with a end game Paragon account when they're going for the same rewards?

    Josh2507 said:

    Josh2507 said:

    You do understand that a competitive game mode is supposed to be... competitive right?

    The whole point is that you wont always win.

    There will be skill caps, and roster caps. And only the best of the best will actually make it to the top.

    You do understand this is a competitive mode right?

    There should not be a roster caps in this and that also when you can basically shop your roster.
    Building your roster over the years is one of the most fundamental parts of this game. If we go with your idea of removing roster caps, then you might as well give everyone every champ. Except no, that wont happen because it makes no sense.
    This is the issue, game launched as mostly single player with progression based in 2014~15, which is nice.
    But later in 2020 multiplayer games started to gain lots of traction and kabam somehow thought their progression based single player game will anyhow fit with multiplayer competitive scenario as well.
    And that's why bg cones into picture and even single player modes are dry now.
    Arena has been part of the game since the very beginning. While not true PvP, you still had to have deep rosters to win. AW came along and that added another layer of needing roster depth or basically Mystics (Mystic wars anyone?).

    AQ came along and it wasn't really anything until they introduced prestige. All of this was well before 2020.
    Non of them is true PvP, also in war you can manage with even r4's with boost
    They are still competitive modes. You can't be in Masters with R1 6*'s. BG's isn't true PVP either. You aren't fighting your opponent directly. it's basically just like AW. The difference is the fight timer.
  • Omega_RunnerOmega_Runner Member Posts: 143 ★★

    Josh2507 said:

    You do understand that a competitive game mode is supposed to be... competitive right?

    The whole point is that you wont always win.

    There will be skill caps, and roster caps. And only the best of the best will actually make it to the top.

    You do understand this is a competitive mode right?

    There should not be a roster caps in this and that also when you can basically shop your roster.
    What makes you think competitive modes shouldn't have roster caps?
    If you can purchase your roster, then roster cap shouldn't be there in bg.
    And if you say keeping roster cap is competitive then your definition of being competitive is very different than mine.
    So what exactly is your suggestion to make a cavalier account competitive with a end game Paragon account when they're going for the same rewards?
    First of all they are not going for same reward.

    Second you can setup a competitive mode by simply setting a pool of 45/60 champs for a particular season and everyone will have same rarity as attack and defence .

    Like 60 6* r4 champs each season, then players can select whom to put in ther deck and then it depends on their skill and draft.
  • Omega_RunnerOmega_Runner Member Posts: 143 ★★

    Josh2507 said:

    You do understand that a competitive game mode is supposed to be... competitive right?

    The whole point is that you wont always win.

    There will be skill caps, and roster caps. And only the best of the best will actually make it to the top.

    You do understand this is a competitive mode right?

    There should not be a roster caps in this and that also when you can basically shop your roster.
    What makes you think competitive modes shouldn't have roster caps?
    If you can purchase your roster, then roster cap shouldn't be there in bg.
    And if you say keeping roster cap is competitive then your definition of being competitive is very different than mine.
    So what exactly is your suggestion to make a cavalier account competitive with a end game Paragon account when they're going for the same rewards?

    Josh2507 said:

    Josh2507 said:

    You do understand that a competitive game mode is supposed to be... competitive right?

    The whole point is that you wont always win.

    There will be skill caps, and roster caps. And only the best of the best will actually make it to the top.

    You do understand this is a competitive mode right?

    There should not be a roster caps in this and that also when you can basically shop your roster.
    Building your roster over the years is one of the most fundamental parts of this game. If we go with your idea of removing roster caps, then you might as well give everyone every champ. Except no, that wont happen because it makes no sense.
    This is the issue, game launched as mostly single player with progression based in 2014~15, which is nice.
    But later in 2020 multiplayer games started to gain lots of traction and kabam somehow thought their progression based single player game will anyhow fit with multiplayer competitive scenario as well.
    And that's why bg cones into picture and even single player modes are dry now.
    Arena has been part of the game since the very beginning. While not true PvP, you still had to have deep rosters to win. AW came along and that added another layer of needing roster depth or basically Mystics (Mystic wars anyone?).

    AQ came along and it wasn't really anything until they introduced prestige. All of this was well before 2020.
    Non of them is true PvP, also in war you can manage with even r4's with boost
    They are still competitive modes. You can't be in Masters with R1 6*'s. BG's isn't true PVP either. You aren't fighting your opponent directly. it's basically just like AW.
    It is nothing like AW, how much time it takes and how much health is remaining non of them matter in AW
  • Manup456Manup456 Member Posts: 891 ★★★★
    edited August 2023
    A lot of the biggest PVP games with a rank system you don’t have ways to just buy an advantage because the stuff you spend on is cosmetic.

    Let’s look at call of duty for example I can start an account get to the lvl where I can join ranked and get to legendary which is the top rank without a single dollar and compete with the same guys who have spent thousand plus and even pass them because skill is the number 1 thing you need to compete where this game in BGs the #1 thing is your roster which can be purchased it’s pretty crazy.

  • DemonzfyreDemonzfyre Member Posts: 22,017 ★★★★★

    Josh2507 said:

    You do understand that a competitive game mode is supposed to be... competitive right?

    The whole point is that you wont always win.

    There will be skill caps, and roster caps. And only the best of the best will actually make it to the top.

    You do understand this is a competitive mode right?

    There should not be a roster caps in this and that also when you can basically shop your roster.
    What makes you think competitive modes shouldn't have roster caps?
    If you can purchase your roster, then roster cap shouldn't be there in bg.
    And if you say keeping roster cap is competitive then your definition of being competitive is very different than mine.
    So what exactly is your suggestion to make a cavalier account competitive with a end game Paragon account when they're going for the same rewards?
    First of all they are not going for same reward.

    Second you can setup a competitive mode by simply setting a pool of 45/60 champs for a particular season and everyone will have same rarity as attack and defence .

    Like 60 6* r4 champs each season, then players can select whom to put in ther deck and then it depends on their skill and draft.
    Everyone in BG"s is competing for the same rewards since the goal of BG's is to make it as far as you can. A UC account is trying to get as far as they can and there isn't a separate mode for them to compete in.
  • Omega_RunnerOmega_Runner Member Posts: 143 ★★

    Josh2507 said:

    You do understand that a competitive game mode is supposed to be... competitive right?

    The whole point is that you wont always win.

    There will be skill caps, and roster caps. And only the best of the best will actually make it to the top.

    You do understand this is a competitive mode right?

    There should not be a roster caps in this and that also when you can basically shop your roster.
    What makes you think competitive modes shouldn't have roster caps?
    If you can purchase your roster, then roster cap shouldn't be there in bg.
    And if you say keeping roster cap is competitive then your definition of being competitive is very different than mine.
    So what exactly is your suggestion to make a cavalier account competitive with a end game Paragon account when they're going for the same rewards?
    First of all they are not going for same reward.

    Second you can setup a competitive mode by simply setting a pool of 45/60 champs for a particular season and everyone will have same rarity as attack and defence .

    Like 60 6* r4 champs each season, then players can select whom to put in ther deck and then it depends on their skill and draft.
    Everyone in BG"s is competing for the same rewards since the goal of BG's is to make it as far as you can. A UC account is trying to get as far as they can and there isn't a separate mode for them to compete in.
    How you can't understand a simple thing, it seems I need to explain everything.

    BG most prominent chunk of reward is token and do cav and paragon have same store to spend those token ?? No right..
    Then how they are competing for same reward.
  • DemonzfyreDemonzfyre Member Posts: 22,017 ★★★★★

    Josh2507 said:

    You do understand that a competitive game mode is supposed to be... competitive right?

    The whole point is that you wont always win.

    There will be skill caps, and roster caps. And only the best of the best will actually make it to the top.

    You do understand this is a competitive mode right?

    There should not be a roster caps in this and that also when you can basically shop your roster.
    What makes you think competitive modes shouldn't have roster caps?
    If you can purchase your roster, then roster cap shouldn't be there in bg.
    And if you say keeping roster cap is competitive then your definition of being competitive is very different than mine.
    So what exactly is your suggestion to make a cavalier account competitive with a end game Paragon account when they're going for the same rewards?

    Josh2507 said:

    Josh2507 said:

    You do understand that a competitive game mode is supposed to be... competitive right?

    The whole point is that you wont always win.

    There will be skill caps, and roster caps. And only the best of the best will actually make it to the top.

    You do understand this is a competitive mode right?

    There should not be a roster caps in this and that also when you can basically shop your roster.
    Building your roster over the years is one of the most fundamental parts of this game. If we go with your idea of removing roster caps, then you might as well give everyone every champ. Except no, that wont happen because it makes no sense.
    This is the issue, game launched as mostly single player with progression based in 2014~15, which is nice.
    But later in 2020 multiplayer games started to gain lots of traction and kabam somehow thought their progression based single player game will anyhow fit with multiplayer competitive scenario as well.
    And that's why bg cones into picture and even single player modes are dry now.
    Arena has been part of the game since the very beginning. While not true PvP, you still had to have deep rosters to win. AW came along and that added another layer of needing roster depth or basically Mystics (Mystic wars anyone?).

    AQ came along and it wasn't really anything until they introduced prestige. All of this was well before 2020.
    Non of them is true PvP, also in war you can manage with even r4's with boost
    They are still competitive modes. You can't be in Masters with R1 6*'s. BG's isn't true PVP either. You aren't fighting your opponent directly. it's basically just like AW.
    It is nothing like AW, how much time it takes and how much health is remaining non of them matter in AW
    You're not understanding. BG's is not true PVP. It's similar to AW in that you pick your defense and attackers. In BGS, you pick your defense and attackers.

    In AW you fight those defenders and you're fighting the A.I. In BG's, you fight those defenders and you're fighting the A.I.

    The difference is that BG's is a live version of selecting defenders and AW is not. The timer is less but in both modes, you're scored on whether you finish the fight or not. AW has attack bonuses you can lose and fight time is a tiebreaker.
  • DemonzfyreDemonzfyre Member Posts: 22,017 ★★★★★

    Josh2507 said:

    You do understand that a competitive game mode is supposed to be... competitive right?

    The whole point is that you wont always win.

    There will be skill caps, and roster caps. And only the best of the best will actually make it to the top.

    You do understand this is a competitive mode right?

    There should not be a roster caps in this and that also when you can basically shop your roster.
    What makes you think competitive modes shouldn't have roster caps?
    If you can purchase your roster, then roster cap shouldn't be there in bg.
    And if you say keeping roster cap is competitive then your definition of being competitive is very different than mine.
    So what exactly is your suggestion to make a cavalier account competitive with a end game Paragon account when they're going for the same rewards?
    First of all they are not going for same reward.

    Second you can setup a competitive mode by simply setting a pool of 45/60 champs for a particular season and everyone will have same rarity as attack and defence .

    Like 60 6* r4 champs each season, then players can select whom to put in ther deck and then it depends on their skill and draft.
    Everyone in BG"s is competing for the same rewards since the goal of BG's is to make it as far as you can. A UC account is trying to get as far as they can and there isn't a separate mode for them to compete in.
    How you can't understand a simple thing, it seems I need to explain everything.

    BG most prominent chunk of reward is token and do cav and paragon have same store to spend those token ?? No right..
    Then how they are competing for same reward.
    Do you think the BG's store is the only rewards people are getting? Do you not know there are solo rank rewards and alliance rank rewards? There are tier rewards as well. Do you not know about any of those?
  • Omega_RunnerOmega_Runner Member Posts: 143 ★★

    Josh2507 said:

    You do understand that a competitive game mode is supposed to be... competitive right?

    The whole point is that you wont always win.

    There will be skill caps, and roster caps. And only the best of the best will actually make it to the top.

    You do understand this is a competitive mode right?

    There should not be a roster caps in this and that also when you can basically shop your roster.
    What makes you think competitive modes shouldn't have roster caps?
    If you can purchase your roster, then roster cap shouldn't be there in bg.
    And if you say keeping roster cap is competitive then your definition of being competitive is very different than mine.
    So what exactly is your suggestion to make a cavalier account competitive with a end game Paragon account when they're going for the same rewards?

    Josh2507 said:

    Josh2507 said:

    You do understand that a competitive game mode is supposed to be... competitive right?

    The whole point is that you wont always win.

    There will be skill caps, and roster caps. And only the best of the best will actually make it to the top.

    You do understand this is a competitive mode right?

    There should not be a roster caps in this and that also when you can basically shop your roster.
    Building your roster over the years is one of the most fundamental parts of this game. If we go with your idea of removing roster caps, then you might as well give everyone every champ. Except no, that wont happen because it makes no sense.
    This is the issue, game launched as mostly single player with progression based in 2014~15, which is nice.
    But later in 2020 multiplayer games started to gain lots of traction and kabam somehow thought their progression based single player game will anyhow fit with multiplayer competitive scenario as well.
    And that's why bg cones into picture and even single player modes are dry now.
    Arena has been part of the game since the very beginning. While not true PvP, you still had to have deep rosters to win. AW came along and that added another layer of needing roster depth or basically Mystics (Mystic wars anyone?).

    AQ came along and it wasn't really anything until they introduced prestige. All of this was well before 2020.
    Non of them is true PvP, also in war you can manage with even r4's with boost
    They are still competitive modes. You can't be in Masters with R1 6*'s. BG's isn't true PVP either. You aren't fighting your opponent directly. it's basically just like AW.
    It is nothing like AW, how much time it takes and how much health is remaining non of them matter in AW
    You're not understanding. BG's is not true PVP. It's similar to AW in that you pick your defense and attackers. In BGS, you pick your defense and attackers.

    In AW you fight those defenders and you're fighting the A.I. In BG's, you fight those defenders and you're fighting the A.I.

    The difference is that BG's is a live version of selecting defenders and AW is not. The timer is less but in both modes, you're scored on whether you finish the fight or not. AW has attack bonuses you can lose and fight time is a tiebreaker.
    How to explain this to you I don't know.
    A slight change in mechanics can change any mode very adversely and here we are talking about both time and health is counted as points in bg.

    BG and AW are very very different
  • Omega_RunnerOmega_Runner Member Posts: 143 ★★

    Josh2507 said:

    You do understand that a competitive game mode is supposed to be... competitive right?

    The whole point is that you wont always win.

    There will be skill caps, and roster caps. And only the best of the best will actually make it to the top.

    You do understand this is a competitive mode right?

    There should not be a roster caps in this and that also when you can basically shop your roster.
    What makes you think competitive modes shouldn't have roster caps?
    If you can purchase your roster, then roster cap shouldn't be there in bg.
    And if you say keeping roster cap is competitive then your definition of being competitive is very different than mine.
    So what exactly is your suggestion to make a cavalier account competitive with a end game Paragon account when they're going for the same rewards?
    First of all they are not going for same reward.

    Second you can setup a competitive mode by simply setting a pool of 45/60 champs for a particular season and everyone will have same rarity as attack and defence .

    Like 60 6* r4 champs each season, then players can select whom to put in ther deck and then it depends on their skill and draft.
    Everyone in BG"s is competing for the same rewards since the goal of BG's is to make it as far as you can. A UC account is trying to get as far as they can and there isn't a separate mode for them to compete in.
    How you can't understand a simple thing, it seems I need to explain everything.

    BG most prominent chunk of reward is token and do cav and paragon have same store to spend those token ?? No right..
    Then how they are competing for same reward.
    Do you think the BG's store is the only rewards people are getting? Do you not know there are solo rank rewards and alliance rank rewards? There are tier rewards as well. Do you not know about any of those?
    Those are very small portion as compared to actual token reward
  • DemonzfyreDemonzfyre Member Posts: 22,017 ★★★★★

    Josh2507 said:

    You do understand that a competitive game mode is supposed to be... competitive right?

    The whole point is that you wont always win.

    There will be skill caps, and roster caps. And only the best of the best will actually make it to the top.

    You do understand this is a competitive mode right?

    There should not be a roster caps in this and that also when you can basically shop your roster.
    What makes you think competitive modes shouldn't have roster caps?
    If you can purchase your roster, then roster cap shouldn't be there in bg.
    And if you say keeping roster cap is competitive then your definition of being competitive is very different than mine.
    So what exactly is your suggestion to make a cavalier account competitive with a end game Paragon account when they're going for the same rewards?

    Josh2507 said:

    Josh2507 said:

    You do understand that a competitive game mode is supposed to be... competitive right?

    The whole point is that you wont always win.

    There will be skill caps, and roster caps. And only the best of the best will actually make it to the top.

    You do understand this is a competitive mode right?

    There should not be a roster caps in this and that also when you can basically shop your roster.
    Building your roster over the years is one of the most fundamental parts of this game. If we go with your idea of removing roster caps, then you might as well give everyone every champ. Except no, that wont happen because it makes no sense.
    This is the issue, game launched as mostly single player with progression based in 2014~15, which is nice.
    But later in 2020 multiplayer games started to gain lots of traction and kabam somehow thought their progression based single player game will anyhow fit with multiplayer competitive scenario as well.
    And that's why bg cones into picture and even single player modes are dry now.
    Arena has been part of the game since the very beginning. While not true PvP, you still had to have deep rosters to win. AW came along and that added another layer of needing roster depth or basically Mystics (Mystic wars anyone?).

    AQ came along and it wasn't really anything until they introduced prestige. All of this was well before 2020.
    Non of them is true PvP, also in war you can manage with even r4's with boost
    They are still competitive modes. You can't be in Masters with R1 6*'s. BG's isn't true PVP either. You aren't fighting your opponent directly. it's basically just like AW.
    It is nothing like AW, how much time it takes and how much health is remaining non of them matter in AW
    You're not understanding. BG's is not true PVP. It's similar to AW in that you pick your defense and attackers. In BGS, you pick your defense and attackers.

    In AW you fight those defenders and you're fighting the A.I. In BG's, you fight those defenders and you're fighting the A.I.

    The difference is that BG's is a live version of selecting defenders and AW is not. The timer is less but in both modes, you're scored on whether you finish the fight or not. AW has attack bonuses you can lose and fight time is a tiebreaker.
    How to explain this to you I don't know.
    A slight change in mechanics can change any mode very adversely and here we are talking about both time and health is counted as points in bg.

    BG and AW are very very different
    My guy, i've already explained that. I am comparing AW and BGs in terms of PVP. BGs is not true PVP. True PvP is that you're actually playing against another player. They're fight you directly. You're only fighting their defender but it's A.I.
  • MaxGamingMaxGaming Member Posts: 3,211 ★★★★★

    This game has completely became whale out to win.

    There is no way you can progress after arcane in bg if you are not spending **** ton of money.

    This was ok till game don't had many competitive modes.

    Now game completely focus on player against player mode as most of account progress rewards come from it.

    So, basically swipe 500~1000 buck every 3 month to stay competitive.

    I have stopped AQ, story mode also cut down, Side Quest and Monthly quest have meh reward with very easy difficulty so this month I didn't even explored.

    Mostly I play bg and there I am always up against 15 r5 and few r2s with 19k prestige.

    Seems like no more fun playing this game.

    I haven't spent money at all and I've been doing great, you sure ur not just I dunno, trying hard enough
  • ShivacruxShivacrux Member Posts: 424 ★★★

    Shivacrux said:

    Shivacrux said:

    No way to progress after arcane 1, seriously?
    I am already in mysterium 2 with only two r5
    Which are btw came from completely f2p

    Let me know once season end, at which rank you end up.
    Currently climbing till mysterium 2 can be done if matchup favour you for 3-4 matches
    I ended up being q2 and q1 last couple of seasons
    Which is still by the way is better than arcane lol
    Q2/Q1 is basically 2/3 more matches worth of win.
    A win is a win

    Shivacrux said:

    No way to progress after arcane 1, seriously?
    I am already in mysterium 2 with only two r5
    Which are btw came from completely f2p

    Let me know once season end, at which rank you end up.
    Currently climbing till mysterium 2 can be done if matchup favour you for 3-4 matches
    Yeah currently in mysterium 1 with 227 points
    Luck has favoured me in 15 matches
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