These changes do not go along with the original post from months ago. This isn't an overhaul. It's a a coat of new paint and re-selling it as improvement. I get the notion that game economy is important and a variety of progression levels to consider, but this change is short-sighted, as others have pointed out.
The cost-lowering is nice, but I'm dreading the day when I go into the Quantum store (yes, the new UI makes me feel like I need to re-up on my Pym particles to be able to see what I'm buying) and I see a new tab where I can purchase potions from Level 1 to 20.
Percentage-based potions would negatively impact lower tiers due to the smaller health pools while heavily benefitting higher tiers. Why not keep LVL-base potions in place as is and then offer % potions for higher progressions? We already have non-%-based revives in the game along with % revives, so the code is there already.
This is like the worst possible solution to such a big problem. Instead of being helpful with percentage potions, y’all are just lower the unit cost which still mean you have to whale out just to get your 6* kingpin back to like half health.
The amount of units available for free is insanely high. Seems like people want to hoard units for holiday weekends to to get everything for free. Then want to be able to get everything completed in game for zero units. Hate to break it to you but no companies are in business by giving everything away for free. This is going to get a hundred disagrees but it's the truth. 120 units for 40k health in aw is a HUGE pro player move. Right now we are spending 100 units for 14500 I think? And it usually takes 3 of those to heal to full. So you are saving 180 units to heal to full for almost all champs in war. That's a great change.
Yeah screw the people who want to casually play this game and actually want to complete content or enjoy the game without having to spend $10-$30 on units for getting through some game modes. Not everyone has hours to sink into constantly grinding arenas for units. Some of us actually go outside and enjoy time out in the world with family and friends.
So let me see if I got this right. Boosts = Percentage Revive = Percentage Double Edge = Percentage Liquid Courage = Percentage Willpower = Percentage Health = Random amount set by team
How does switching health potions to a percentage like everything else in the game cause problems for summoners?
Percents are so much easier, let’s say I have 10x 5% health potions. Now I can use on any champ and get the same results no matter what. Why have small potions that only benefit 1/2* champs instead of allowing them to be used in any content?
Less variety of potions would also mean less clutter in the game files instead of indefinitely adding higher level health potions as HP continues to rise.
There is literally no problems that I can see arising from percent potions.
no matter what they bring out and no matter how they market this, they will always rearrange the numbers so it takes them where they want to be.
there's no escaping their monetization targets and "game balance". one example is they can just make percentage based potions so small that it ends up costing a lot anyway. they control the market and we are fools if we expect any different.
cosign with what everyone is saying. almost nobody saves units to spend on revives or potions so these changes only improve lives of big whales and they don't need the help anyway.
one great thing is the improvement to boosted healing, but overall these are negligible improvements to most players. this should have been expected because the potion system is always a step or two behind the needs of players and it's clearly designed that way.
Okay, this is a bit too much. People requested percentage-based. That doesn't mean that was the direction they were going. It may be disappointing, but it's not the direction. For that matter, its more of the same issue. Only on the opposite end. As it stands now, Champs that are lower get more from Pots. With percentage-based, the opposite would be true. Same Pots, more for higher Champs. I get the whole sentiment of being disappointed, but they're still looking at ways to improve them. Saying they changed nothing is extreme. People still spend to Heal. Not everyone saves every Unit for the big sales. In fact, it's pretty much mandatory at higher levels of game play that you Heal to full in team modes, and I'm almost positive the majority don't rely on stores alone, so it's a benefit. People can say whatever they like, but I have to interject and say I feel that some of the reactions are exaggerated.
Okay, this is a bit too much. People requested percentage-based. That doesn't mean that was the direction they were going. It may be disappointing, but it's not the direction. For that matter, its more of the same issue. Only on the opposite end. As it stands now, Champs that are lower get more from Pots. With percentage-based, the opposite would be true. Same Pots, more for higher Champs. I get the whole sentiment of being disappointed, but they're still looking at ways to improve them. Saying they changed nothing is extreme. People still spend to Heal. Not everyone saves every Unit for the big sales. In fact, it's pretty much mandatory at higher levels of game play that you Heal to full in team modes, and I'm almost positive the majority don't rely on stores alone, so it's a benefit. People can say whatever they like, but I have to interject and say I feel that some of the reactions are exaggerated.
Okay, this is a bit too much. People requested percentage-based. That doesn't mean that was the direction they were going. It may be disappointing, but it's not the direction. For that matter, its more of the same issue. Only on the opposite end. As it stands now, Champs that are lower get more from Pots. With percentage-based, the opposite would be true. Same Pots, more for higher Champs. I get the whole sentiment of being disappointed, but they're still looking at ways to improve them. Saying they changed nothing is extreme. People still spend to Heal. Not everyone saves every Unit for the big sales. In fact, it's pretty much mandatory at higher levels of game play that you Heal to full in team modes, and I'm almost positive the majority don't rely on stores alone, so it's a benefit. People can say whatever they like, but I have to interject and say I feel that some of the reactions are exaggerated.
What has changed?
They literally listed their plan. Did people even read it or did they stop at no percentage?
Okay, this is a bit too much. People requested percentage-based. That doesn't mean that was the direction they were going. It may be disappointing, but it's not the direction. For that matter, its more of the same issue. Only on the opposite end. As it stands now, Champs that are lower get more from Pots. With percentage-based, the opposite would be true. Same Pots, more for higher Champs. I get the whole sentiment of being disappointed, but they're still looking at ways to improve them. Saying they changed nothing is extreme. People still spend to Heal. Not everyone saves every Unit for the big sales. In fact, it's pretty much mandatory at higher levels of game play that you Heal to full in team modes, and I'm almost positive the majority don't rely on stores alone, so it's a benefit. People can say whatever they like, but I have to interject and say I feel that some of the reactions are exaggerated.
What has changed?
They literally listed their plan. Did people even read it or did they stop at no percentage?
Yes I read it. Did you? Potions haven't changed at all.
Okay, this is a bit too much. People requested percentage-based. That doesn't mean that was the direction they were going. It may be disappointing, but it's not the direction. For that matter, its more of the same issue. Only on the opposite end. As it stands now, Champs that are lower get more from Pots. With percentage-based, the opposite would be true. Same Pots, more for higher Champs. I get the whole sentiment of being disappointed, but they're still looking at ways to improve them. Saying they changed nothing is extreme. People still spend to Heal. Not everyone saves every Unit for the big sales. In fact, it's pretty much mandatory at higher levels of game play that you Heal to full in team modes, and I'm almost positive the majority don't rely on stores alone, so it's a benefit. People can say whatever they like, but I have to interject and say I feel that some of the reactions are exaggerated.
What has changed?
They literally listed their plan. Did people even read it or did they stop at no percentage?
Yes I read it. Did you? Potions haven't changed at all.
Their availability is changing. Cheaper prices, more availability based on progression, more Loyalty to buy Pots, I mean the list goes on. You can argue ad nauseum that the Pots themselves don't heal more, but 2 for the price of one heals more. Not sure what the pricing will be, but that's the general idea.
Okay, this is a bit too much. People requested percentage-based. That doesn't mean that was the direction they were going. It may be disappointing, but it's not the direction. For that matter, its more of the same issue. Only on the opposite end. As it stands now, Champs that are lower get more from Pots. With percentage-based, the opposite would be true. Same Pots, more for higher Champs. I get the whole sentiment of being disappointed, but they're still looking at ways to improve them. Saying they changed nothing is extreme. People still spend to Heal. Not everyone saves every Unit for the big sales. In fact, it's pretty much mandatory at higher levels of game play that you Heal to full in team modes, and I'm almost positive the majority don't rely on stores alone, so it's a benefit. People can say whatever they like, but I have to interject and say I feel that some of the reactions are exaggerated.
Maybe if you read the replies you would have realized that most of them are saying price drop is a step is right direction but this is just one of the issues with health potions. - No increase in the amount healed - No inventory cap increase
Maybe if you read the post carefully you would have realized that this is a half baked information dump. - Most F2P player(including me) don't like to spend units on health potions. I would rather buy a full energy refill and restart the quest. It doesn't make me want to buy health potions. I still feel the same. And I can safely assume most player also feel the same. - They mention adding potions to the glory and loyalty store but they don't reveal the price.
What kabam is trying to do here is by showing us the dropped prices they thought that the community will be excited and when they reveal the price of glory/loyalty store (which they mention will only be substantially lower), the community will overlook those prices because they reduced the amount of units to buy the potions.
Okay, this is a bit too much. People requested percentage-based. That doesn't mean that was the direction they were going. It may be disappointing, but it's not the direction. For that matter, its more of the same issue. Only on the opposite end. As it stands now, Champs that are lower get more from Pots. With percentage-based, the opposite would be true. Same Pots, more for higher Champs. I get the whole sentiment of being disappointed, but they're still looking at ways to improve them. Saying they changed nothing is extreme. People still spend to Heal. Not everyone saves every Unit for the big sales. In fact, it's pretty much mandatory at higher levels of game play that you Heal to full in team modes, and I'm almost positive the majority don't rely on stores alone, so it's a benefit. People can say whatever they like, but I have to interject and say I feel that some of the reactions are exaggerated.
Maybe if you read the replies you would have realized that most of them are saying price drop is a step is right direction but this is just one of the issues with health potions. - No increase in the amount healed - No inventory cap increase
Maybe if you read the post carefully you would have realized that this is a half baked information dump. - Most F2P player(including me) don't like to spend units on health potions. I would rather buy a full energy refill and restart the quest. It doesn't make me want to buy health potions. I still feel the same. And I can safely assume most player also feel the same. - They mention adding potions to the glory and loyalty store but they don't reveal the price.
What kabam is trying to do here is by showing us the dropped prices they thought that the community will be excited and when they reveal the price of glory/loyalty store (which they mention will only be substantially lower), the community will overlook those prices because they reduced the amount of units to buy the potions.
I read the comments. People demand transparency, and then complain that the information is "half-baked" when Kabam gives a tentative plan. The prices will be revealed when they're ready. The value of what people spend for is precisely the issue that makes it tricky to increase in any kind of reasonable way. Whatever you change is going to devalue the amount that X amount of Units are worth on either side. People don't *like* to spend on Pots and Revs, but their data clearly suggests that they do, otherwise they wouldn't be addressing it. There are a number of sources for free Pots and Revs in the game. You get more if you spend, and you don't even need to spend money. You can use Units which are earned. I'm sorry, but choosing not to use Units on them is a personal choice. Most people would say they want more for free. Game balance isn't always about want.
Okay, this is a bit too much. People requested percentage-based. That doesn't mean that was the direction they were going. It may be disappointing, but it's not the direction. For that matter, its more of the same issue. Only on the opposite end. As it stands now, Champs that are lower get more from Pots. With percentage-based, the opposite would be true. Same Pots, more for higher Champs. I get the whole sentiment of being disappointed, but they're still looking at ways to improve them. Saying they changed nothing is extreme. People still spend to Heal. Not everyone saves every Unit for the big sales. In fact, it's pretty much mandatory at higher levels of game play that you Heal to full in team modes, and I'm almost positive the majority don't rely on stores alone, so it's a benefit. People can say whatever they like, but I have to interject and say I feel that some of the reactions are exaggerated.
Maybe if you read the replies you would have realized that most of them are saying price drop is a step is right direction but this is just one of the issues with health potions. - No increase in the amount healed - No inventory cap increase
Maybe if you read the post carefully you would have realized that this is a half baked information dump. - Most F2P player(including me) don't like to spend units on health potions. I would rather buy a full energy refill and restart the quest. It doesn't make me want to buy health potions. I still feel the same. And I can safely assume most player also feel the same. - They mention adding potions to the glory and loyalty store but they don't reveal the price.
What kabam is trying to do here is by showing us the dropped prices they thought that the community will be excited and when they reveal the price of glory/loyalty store (which they mention will only be substantially lower), the community will overlook those prices because they reduced the amount of units to buy the potions.
I read the comments. People demand transparency, and then complain that the information is "half-baked" when Kabam gives a tentative plan. The prices will be revealed when they're ready. The value of what people spend for is precisely the issue that makes it tricky to increase in any kind of reasonable way. Whatever you change is going to devalue the amount that X amount of Units are worth on either side. People don't *like* to spend on Pots and Revs, but their data clearly suggests that they do, otherwise they wouldn't be addressing it. There are a number of sources for free Pots and Revs in the game. You get more if you spend, and you don't even need to spend money. You can use Units which are earned. I'm sorry, but choosing not to use Units on them is a personal choice. Most people would say they want more for free. Game balance isn't always about want.
Their data suggest that people prefer to use revives over potions because potions heal very less. They are decreasing the price to shift the meta from revive spamming to potion spamming.
The cumulative result of these changes is intended to shift the meta away from always feeling like you have to revive to 20% or 40% health, and to provide more varied options where often it's best to heal your champions a greater amount.
Again, potions obtained from other sources still have the same value. No real change there. Apply 10 potions just to increase the health by 2-3% of 6 Star champions Higher level potions cannot be obtained easily for free. Lower level potions have no real impact.
Okay, this is a bit too much. People requested percentage-based. That doesn't mean that was the direction they were going. It may be disappointing, but it's not the direction. For that matter, its more of the same issue. Only on the opposite end. As it stands now, Champs that are lower get more from Pots. With percentage-based, the opposite would be true. Same Pots, more for higher Champs. I get the whole sentiment of being disappointed, but they're still looking at ways to improve them. Saying they changed nothing is extreme. People still spend to Heal. Not everyone saves every Unit for the big sales. In fact, it's pretty much mandatory at higher levels of game play that you Heal to full in team modes, and I'm almost positive the majority don't rely on stores alone, so it's a benefit. People can say whatever they like, but I have to interject and say I feel that some of the reactions are exaggerated.
Maybe if you read the replies you would have realized that most of them are saying price drop is a step is right direction but this is just one of the issues with health potions. - No increase in the amount healed - No inventory cap increase
Maybe if you read the post carefully you would have realized that this is a half baked information dump. - Most F2P player(including me) don't like to spend units on health potions. I would rather buy a full energy refill and restart the quest. It doesn't make me want to buy health potions. I still feel the same. And I can safely assume most player also feel the same. - They mention adding potions to the glory and loyalty store but they don't reveal the price.
What kabam is trying to do here is by showing us the dropped prices they thought that the community will be excited and when they reveal the price of glory/loyalty store (which they mention will only be substantially lower), the community will overlook those prices because they reduced the amount of units to buy the potions.
I read the comments. People demand transparency, and then complain that the information is "half-baked" when Kabam gives a tentative plan. The prices will be revealed when they're ready. The value of what people spend for is precisely the issue that makes it tricky to increase in any kind of reasonable way. Whatever you change is going to devalue the amount that X amount of Units are worth on either side. People don't *like* to spend on Pots and Revs, but their data clearly suggests that they do, otherwise they wouldn't be addressing it. There are a number of sources for free Pots and Revs in the game. You get more if you spend, and you don't even need to spend money. You can use Units which are earned. I'm sorry, but choosing not to use Units on them is a personal choice. Most people would say they want more for free. Game balance isn't always about want.
Their data suggest that people prefer to use revives over potions because potions heal very less. They are decreasing the price to shift the meta from revive spamming to potion spamming.
The cumulative result of these changes is intended to shift the meta away from always feeling like you have to revive to 20% or 40% health, and to provide more varied options where often it's best to heal your champions a greater amount.
Again, potions obtained from other sources still have the same value. No real change there. Apply 10 potions just to increase the health by 2-3% of 6 Star champions Higher level potions cannot be obtained easily for free. Lower level potions have no real impact.
Okay, this is a bit too much. People requested percentage-based. That doesn't mean that was the direction they were going. It may be disappointing, but it's not the direction. For that matter, its more of the same issue. Only on the opposite end. As it stands now, Champs that are lower get more from Pots. With percentage-based, the opposite would be true. Same Pots, more for higher Champs. I get the whole sentiment of being disappointed, but they're still looking at ways to improve them. Saying they changed nothing is extreme. People still spend to Heal. Not everyone saves every Unit for the big sales. In fact, it's pretty much mandatory at higher levels of game play that you Heal to full in team modes, and I'm almost positive the majority don't rely on stores alone, so it's a benefit. People can say whatever they like, but I have to interject and say I feel that some of the reactions are exaggerated.
Maybe if you read the replies you would have realized that most of them are saying price drop is a step is right direction but this is just one of the issues with health potions. - No increase in the amount healed - No inventory cap increase
Maybe if you read the post carefully you would have realized that this is a half baked information dump. - Most F2P player(including me) don't like to spend units on health potions. I would rather buy a full energy refill and restart the quest. It doesn't make me want to buy health potions. I still feel the same. And I can safely assume most player also feel the same. - They mention adding potions to the glory and loyalty store but they don't reveal the price.
What kabam is trying to do here is by showing us the dropped prices they thought that the community will be excited and when they reveal the price of glory/loyalty store (which they mention will only be substantially lower), the community will overlook those prices because they reduced the amount of units to buy the potions.
I read the comments. People demand transparency, and then complain that the information is "half-baked" when Kabam gives a tentative plan. The prices will be revealed when they're ready. The value of what people spend for is precisely the issue that makes it tricky to increase in any kind of reasonable way. Whatever you change is going to devalue the amount that X amount of Units are worth on either side. People don't *like* to spend on Pots and Revs, but their data clearly suggests that they do, otherwise they wouldn't be addressing it. There are a number of sources for free Pots and Revs in the game. You get more if you spend, and you don't even need to spend money. You can use Units which are earned. I'm sorry, but choosing not to use Units on them is a personal choice. Most people would say they want more for free. Game balance isn't always about want.
Their data suggest that people prefer to use revives over potions because potions heal very less. They are decreasing the price to shift the meta from revive spamming to potion spamming.
The cumulative result of these changes is intended to shift the meta away from always feeling like you have to revive to 20% or 40% health, and to provide more varied options where often it's best to heal your champions a greater amount.
Again, potions obtained from other sources still have the same value. No real change there. Apply 10 potions just to increase the health by 2-3% of 6 Star champions Higher level potions cannot be obtained easily for free. Lower level potions have no real impact.
That's like anything. Not everything is free.
No one is saying they want everything for free. There is so much they could have done. - Improve the daily quest - Improve the 4hr Crystal drop rates - Improve the chest system - Improve the solo milestone rewards But all they did in 7 months is to reduce the price.
What you're describing only pertains to free Pots.
Maybe our definition of free is different. If they send something in the mail is free... items obtained from calendar is free. If I get something from completing a quest or doing the solo milestone is not free.
What you're describing only pertains to free Pots.
Maybe our definition of free is different. If they send something in the mail is free... items obtained from calendar is free. If I get something from completing a quest or doing the solo milestone is not free.
When you're talking about spending versus earnable, it is.
What you're describing only pertains to free Pots.
Maybe our definition of free is different. If they send something in the mail is free... items obtained from calendar is free. If I get something from completing a quest or doing the solo milestone is not free.
When you're talking about spending versus earnable, it is.
To put it according to your definition... make them significantly more earnable by slightly increasing the number of potions in different aspects of the game. That should have been the real focus of the this change not just units...
As discussed many moons ago, our team has been working hard on a Consumables Revamp. We have spent a lot of time considering how best to improve potions in the Contest. The intention of this post is to share with you our process, our findings and our short and longer-term plans.
Before we get into it, we want to make sure that everybody is approaching this information with the knowledge that Potions and Revives are a very important part of the MCoC in-game Economy. The changes we’re sharing with you today were carefully considered and meticulously crafted to protect the future good of the game while also being a major upgrade for players. These changes will make the biggest impact for Summoners who spend their units to heal their roster and we hope you’ll see the value in these changes, making potions more affordable and accessible.
Starting at the Beginning
To provide the best solution, we began by identifying the core problems:
On a per-unit basis, potions heal far less health than revives do. This is due to the ever-growing health pools of champions, combined with the percentage-based nature of revives.
Because potions, especially lower-level potions, heal so little health on a per-potion basis, they’re time-consuming and fiddly to use.
If you have a health boost active, potions are less effective since your health pool is larger now but your potions still heal the same amount.
Our highest-level potions don’t heal enough health anymore relative to some champion health pools.
A 3-Step Solution
Below is our 3-step plan to mitigate these core concerns in a long-term, sustainable way. The solution is not switching to or adding percentage-based potions - we did consider this option carefully, but we ruled it out as we acknowledged an array of new problems for Summoners it could produce. Ultimately, we determined that the below solution would allow us to move forward effectively without introducing any new issues.
In the interest of transparency, we wanted to give you an overview of the plan, our anticipated dates for when each of these aspects are targeted to ship and our confidence level we have in hitting these dates. If there are delays, we’ll keep you in the loop.
STEP 1 - Potion Cost Adjustment
Target launch date: Early November 2023
Timeline Confidence: High
Unit prices for questing, Alliance War and Alliance Quest potions are dropping, and in many cases, significantly!
Moving forward, prices and availability for questing potions are going to be tied to progression.
Potions will be consistently cheaper in the rework, even for Challenger and Contender accounts.
Proven-to-Uncollected accounts will gain access to level 5 potions (and level 6 potions through Unit Offers) and all potion Unit prices will drop.
Cavalier+ accounts will see Unit prices for potions drop again, and will gain access to level 6 and 7 potions through unit offers.
Because potion prices are now tied to milestone progress, in the future, as champion health pools continue to rise, we will lower potion prices as needed when we introduce further Progression Levels.
We’re adding Level 6 and 7 health potions and Level 6 and 7 team health potions to questing, Alliance War and Alliance Quest, and Level 5 health potions and Level 4 team health potions to Incursions
Note: these will be available in Unit Offers only.
We will continue to update our healing item offers to reflect the lowered base prices - this will likely not all be ready all at once, but rather than delay until all offer updates are ready, we thought it best to give you all the lowered base potion prices as early as possible. We aim to have all updated offers reflect the new base potions quickly thereafter.
Target Launch Date: February 2024 Timeline Confidence: Medium-high
When you have a health boost active, potions will heal that percentage more health while the boost is active
Prices in the Glory and Loyalty stores will be lowered, though not substantially. Instead, in Alliance War, for each fight completed you’ll gain Loyalty, giving you more access to this resource. We’ve approached the situation from this angle primarily to ensure that the choice of how to spend your Loyalty remains an interesting one.
We’re adding level 5 single and team potions to the Loyalty Store, and level 4 single and team potions to the Glory Store.
STEP 3 - Quick Heal
Target Launch Date: April 2024 Timeline Confidence: Medium
Introducing Quick Heal! This will be a convenient, new option that will use the Potions and Revives from your inventory to heal your champions with one tap. This will be a new option in the pre-fight screen, and will also be usable from within the fight screen itself if you want to heal and jump right back in. If you’re out of healing items, there will be a separate Quick Heal option for you to directly convert Units to health/revival at a great exchange rate. This feature will dramatically reduce the number of taps needed to heal your champs, saving you time and effort. This feature will roll out first in questing content, but we will also introduce it to Alliance War, Alliance Quest and Incursions in future.
Note: the details of this feature are still under discussion
Looking to the Future
The cumulative result of these changes is intended to shift the meta away from always feeling like you have to revive to 20% or 40% health, and to provide more varied options where often it's best to heal your champions a greater amount. This is expected to give viability to a wider range of champions, and lower the stress of fights by giving revived champions more margin of error on the rematch.
Now this is something very useful in the game we need.thanks for this potions update.
Sorry, this may be great for the whales and people who use units but unless you’re lowering the cost of potions in the Glory, Incursion, and Loyalty store - this update isn’t that great for MOST summoners to be honest
hold on so they are not lowering the cost of potions and revives at any of those stores ???
We all gotta understand something. We all know this is a business and they gotta make money to survive. The game is still growing and going strong almost 10 years now. But alot of the decisions this company make are hilarious and so out of touch.
1.) Will drop rates be increased for RNG potion drops? There’s nothing about availability here.
2.) Scalability/Maintenance? There is such a gap between Cav and Paragon atm (heck even within simply Paragon) that the current tier system seems posed to recreate the exact same problem we have now. How will the team address these things?
Number of times the word "unit" is mentioned in the post: 32 Number of times the phrase "percentage-based" is mentioned in the post: 6 Number of times the word "gold" is mentioned in the post: 0 Number of forum disagrees: 103
Comments
The cost-lowering is nice, but I'm dreading the day when I go into the Quantum store (yes, the new UI makes me feel like I need to re-up on my Pym particles to be able to see what I'm buying) and I see a new tab where I can purchase potions from Level 1 to 20.
Percentage-based potions would negatively impact lower tiers due to the smaller health pools while heavily benefitting higher tiers. Why not keep LVL-base potions in place as is and then offer % potions for higher progressions? We already have non-%-based revives in the game along with % revives, so the code is there already.
there's no escaping their monetization targets and "game balance". one example is they can just make percentage based potions so small that it ends up costing a lot anyway. they control the market and we are fools if we expect any different.
one great thing is the improvement to boosted healing, but overall these are negligible improvements to most players. this should have been expected because the potion system is always a step or two behind the needs of players and it's clearly designed that way.
People requested percentage-based. That doesn't mean that was the direction they were going. It may be disappointing, but it's not the direction.
For that matter, its more of the same issue. Only on the opposite end. As it stands now, Champs that are lower get more from Pots. With percentage-based, the opposite would be true. Same Pots, more for higher Champs.
I get the whole sentiment of being disappointed, but they're still looking at ways to improve them. Saying they changed nothing is extreme.
People still spend to Heal. Not everyone saves every Unit for the big sales. In fact, it's pretty much mandatory at higher levels of game play that you Heal to full in team modes, and I'm almost positive the majority don't rely on stores alone, so it's a benefit.
People can say whatever they like, but I have to interject and say I feel that some of the reactions are exaggerated.
You can argue ad nauseum that the Pots themselves don't heal more, but 2 for the price of one heals more. Not sure what the pricing will be, but that's the general idea.
- No increase in the amount healed
- No inventory cap increase
Maybe if you read the post carefully you would have realized that this is a half baked information dump.
- Most F2P player(including me) don't like to spend units on health potions. I would rather buy a full energy refill and restart the quest. It doesn't make me want to buy health potions. I still feel the same. And I can safely assume most player also feel the same.
- They mention adding potions to the glory and loyalty store but they don't reveal the price.
What kabam is trying to do here is by showing us the dropped prices they thought that the community will be excited and when they reveal the price of glory/loyalty store (which they mention will only be substantially lower), the community will overlook those prices because they reduced the amount of units to buy the potions.
The value of what people spend for is precisely the issue that makes it tricky to increase in any kind of reasonable way. Whatever you change is going to devalue the amount that X amount of Units are worth on either side.
People don't *like* to spend on Pots and Revs, but their data clearly suggests that they do, otherwise they wouldn't be addressing it.
There are a number of sources for free Pots and Revs in the game. You get more if you spend, and you don't even need to spend money. You can use Units which are earned. I'm sorry, but choosing not to use Units on them is a personal choice.
Most people would say they want more for free. Game balance isn't always about want.
Again, potions obtained from other sources still have the same value. No real change there. Apply 10 potions just to increase the health by 2-3% of 6 Star champions
Higher level potions cannot be obtained easily for free. Lower level potions have no real impact.
There is so much they could have done.
- Improve the daily quest
- Improve the 4hr Crystal drop rates
- Improve the chest system
- Improve the solo milestone rewards
But all they did in 7 months is to reduce the price.
If I get something from completing a quest or doing the solo milestone is not free.
1.) Will drop rates be increased for RNG potion drops? There’s nothing about availability here.
2.) Scalability/Maintenance? There is such a gap between Cav and Paragon atm (heck even within simply Paragon) that the current tier system seems posed to recreate the exact same problem we have now. How will the team address these things?
It’s about time the health and heal pots were updated.
Health potion system is still outdated with flat values and doesn't work well with 6 and 7 stars.
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