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# Always Selecting First in BG Resulting in a Constant Disadvantage

ZmanD90
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Device: Samsung Galaxy Note 9

Operating System: Android Version 10

Mobile Carrier: T-Mobile

Cell or Wifi: Both

Game Version: 41.2.0

Game Mode: Battlegrounds

Champions Affected: All

Active Boosts: None

Screenshot/Video: N/A

Description:

I've been playing more battlegrounds lately and it felt like I was always picking first when it came time to select champs. Picking first results in a slight disadvantage since all the opponents picks can be made in response to yours. I wanted to test this, so I started taking note of when I selected for each BG match that I played.

I played the first 50 games using energy. I selected first 49 of 50 matches with the lone second selection being in match 49. I used the binomial distribution function in Excel to determine that the chances of selecting second a single time out of 50 matches is about 1 in 22 trillion (assuming the game randomly selects who chooses first).

I then played 25 matches using Elder's Marks. I selected first in 22 of the 25 matches with the second selections coming in matches 9, 14, and 21. I used the same Excel function to determine the chances of selecting second 3 times out of 25 matches to be 1 in 12,778 (assuming the game randomly selects who chooses first).

I continued playing using both energy and Elder's Marks. I played a total of 131 matches (88 with energy and 43 with Elder's Marks). I selected first in 125 of the 131 matches. The probability of selecting second 6 times out of 131 matches is 1 in 1.45E+29 (assuming the game randomly selects who chooses first).

I believe this confirms that the game is not randomly choosing who selects first in BG matches. I watched some streamers and they had far more matches where they chose second.

This is becoming very distressing. I am trying my best to advance in BG, but I feel like I'm always at a disadvantage. Could you please comment on whether or not the matches are supposed to be random or if there is another mechanic dictating who chooses when? I would be very very grateful.

Operating System: Android Version 10

Mobile Carrier: T-Mobile

Cell or Wifi: Both

Game Version: 41.2.0

Game Mode: Battlegrounds

Champions Affected: All

Active Boosts: None

Screenshot/Video: N/A

Description:

I've been playing more battlegrounds lately and it felt like I was always picking first when it came time to select champs. Picking first results in a slight disadvantage since all the opponents picks can be made in response to yours. I wanted to test this, so I started taking note of when I selected for each BG match that I played.

I played the first 50 games using energy. I selected first 49 of 50 matches with the lone second selection being in match 49. I used the binomial distribution function in Excel to determine that the chances of selecting second a single time out of 50 matches is about 1 in 22 trillion (assuming the game randomly selects who chooses first).

I then played 25 matches using Elder's Marks. I selected first in 22 of the 25 matches with the second selections coming in matches 9, 14, and 21. I used the same Excel function to determine the chances of selecting second 3 times out of 25 matches to be 1 in 12,778 (assuming the game randomly selects who chooses first).

I continued playing using both energy and Elder's Marks. I played a total of 131 matches (88 with energy and 43 with Elder's Marks). I selected first in 125 of the 131 matches. The probability of selecting second 6 times out of 131 matches is 1 in 1.45E+29 (assuming the game randomly selects who chooses first).

I believe this confirms that the game is not randomly choosing who selects first in BG matches. I watched some streamers and they had far more matches where they chose second.

This is becoming very distressing. I am trying my best to advance in BG, but I feel like I'm always at a disadvantage. Could you please comment on whether or not the matches are supposed to be random or if there is another mechanic dictating who chooses when? I would be very very grateful.

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## Comments

309★★★Picking first is a large disadvantage because you have to choose your defender first in the 3rd match. This is a huge difference maker, because the selection of a defender may force you to give up a counter to one of their champs, and likewise, selecting a defender frees up one of the opponent's champs to be a defender, since they know which counter they need and which one you can't counter.

This would not be a huge deal if I picked first roughly half the time. Sure, it's a disadvantage, but statistically, it will even out over time. But if some of us are always (or nearly always) selected to pick first, then this disadvantage really stacks up.

727★★★★30★299★★★I know it is rng and seen from an overall perspective it events out, but just very annoying to be in the ‘select first’ group.

12★26★Another funny part is that picking first comes with choosing defense first in game 1 and game 3, which is a huge disadvantage. Also, picking first is much more difficult to get more counters in the entire draft imo. So I wonder why many people and Kabam still have a good feeling about current bgs in terms of fairness.

16★26★7★5★267★1,529★★★★★667,946★★★★★47★Your request "BGs draft" (Ticket #522539) has been updated.

"Hello Summoner,

Thank you for contacting Kabam Support.

I read your ticket, and I understand that you are providing feedback about changing the first to pick Defenders in Battlegrounds and requesting to be the second to pick defenders in 30+ Battlegrounds rounds in a row. I have shared your feedback with The Contest team, and thank you for taking the time to share your ideas! We really appreciate it when players share feedback with us to help make the game better!..."

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