**WE ARE NO LONGER Temporarily Reverting Tier 1 War Ban System**
After further discussion, the game team has made the decision not make adjustements to the ban system.
The previously proposed fix would have resolved the issue for Summoners who are on the cusp of T1/T2 play, and negatively impacted Alliances more securely in T1. Instead, we recommend that cusp Alliances switch to Manual Placement to your members to place the allotted 5 Ban Champions limit there.
Apologies for the back and forth, and for any confusion.
After further discussion, the game team has made the decision not make adjustements to the ban system.
The previously proposed fix would have resolved the issue for Summoners who are on the cusp of T1/T2 play, and negatively impacted Alliances more securely in T1. Instead, we recommend that cusp Alliances switch to Manual Placement to your members to place the allotted 5 Ban Champions limit there.
Apologies for the back and forth, and for any confusion.
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voting for the titan pool should be based on progression
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i don't like to exclude, especially since we're all basically the same except with different start dates, but voting for end-game crystals should be done by end-game players only, or else you end up with spot, shang chi, and colossus in the titan pool.
it just makes sense that a crystal that most players won't have access to for another 1-3+ years shouldn't be voted on by everybody.
it just makes sense that a crystal that most players won't have access to for another 1-3+ years shouldn't be voted on by everybody.
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Kate is definitely the most valued champ currently because she is the best option for the most rewarding game mode currently. But none of the players are aware about necropolis when titan poll was launched, that's the reason shang chi got voted.
I believe in tech, omega sentinel and in science, obviously quicksilver over spot should've been voted
But for mutant who do you want to see instead of colossus?
Utilities are comparable, really depends whether one will be better than the other in a particular matchup.
Do you think that TB and below don't have access to all the champs in those pools? Your logic is weird and flawed.
Again, I can only speculate, but I imagine the mutant vote would’ve panned out far differently had the paragons been the only ones allowed to vote. Its now the paragon+ players bearing the brunt of that decision not players further down in progression tiers. Had the vote turned out the same so be it. We made our decision and we have to live with it. However, knowing cavs, TBs, conquerors, etc all got to vote on that pool leaves a more than sour taste in my mouth knowing they arent going to be the ones dealing with the subpar pulls
Moreover, the earlier you are in the game, the less informed your view is on the matter, hence you’re not only not a stakeholder, but your opinion is likely to cause more damage than good as you select champions on name recognition or cosmetics instead of value to your roster as more late stage players would.
act 2 players shouldn't have a say in something that won't affect them for another 2+ years. same reason that randos in a different alliance don't get a say in how you run yours or how people living in a different country don't get to vote in your elections.
NOT END GAME PLAYERS
As the kids say (from 20 years ago) don't hate the players, hate the game
A local election only meaningfully affects the people in that county, hence we only allow people who are members of that county to vote on them. If you want a say in those elections you need to move there and become a stakeholder. A titan crystal is a reward that only late stage players open. Therefore it makes no sense for players who do not open that crystal and are hence not stakeholders to vote in that pool. You made a faulty comparison
Crystals aren't exclusive to anyone, really. A Player that is below Paragon can still amass Dups, and therefore Shards.
All this is, is bitterness because the particular Champ people wanted wasn't voted in. If you want the ability to have a vote and a say, you need to be willing to accept when the majority vote isn't what you personally chose. That's a part of any election.
This is compounded by the fact that the titan pool is rotating hence there is a degree of urgency added to the mix. If you have literally no means of reasonably attaining the crystal by the time the champions have come and gone, your whims should not be determining. It doesn’t matter if more shards are available in the future- those champs are only in the pool NOW. Only players in the late game are going to see them there hence why THEY should be deciding who is in it
I can’t believe you are seriously suggesting that players who have literally booted up the game for an hour should have equal input on a time gated pool for the rarest crystal in game as players who are ACTUALLY going to be opening it. I already said that if the paragon players voted this way then whatever- we have to live with our own choice. My suspicion was that the vote would’ve resulted in different outcomes given the obvious mountains of experience they have relative to new players. Regardless of that outcome, you still shouldnt be letting conquerers ever get to choose what goes into the rarest item in game. In fact, this argument is flexible. If the data was cracked and we saw that players who were TB at the time of the vote were opening a significant number of titans then of course, open it up to TBs too. My guess is that well under 1% of any player who was TB at that point opened a titan by today. Paragon at the time? Im guessing more like 80+. My mind can be changed quite easily if we see that those players are actually stakeholders but I dont think that they are