Average revive count for Mr F Path with Kate/Shuri Team?

PolygonPolygon Member Posts: 4,863 ★★★★★
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Leaving this path for last because I heard its the “easiest” if you have a 7 star shuri. Mine is rank 2 and Kate is r5 ascended , Chavez also rank 2

Path 1 was really easy for me to Kate minus the Aarkus and Valkyrie, i managed a lot of solos. But the Mr F path has an Apocalypse, Tigra, and Herc. I assume the first two are easy for Shuri and Kate.

My concern is more so the Herc and Air Walker with the cornered trap node as I’m trying to bring Nick Fury over a counter like Abs Man for those fights.

For a team of rank 2 Shuri and rank 6 Kate, how many revives would this path cost on *average*?

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  • ItsClobberinTimeItsClobberinTime Member Posts: 5,444 ★★★★★
    I used 70-75 but I used Zemo instead of Kate in section one, depends how good you are playing around the cornered node with Kate. You'll probably only use her against Fantastic anyways, Air Walker can still be done with Chavez even though you can't spam heavy in the corner and Shuri cheeses the rest.
    As for Herc, Kate will work yes, just be careful with the spacing when you punish his specials with heavy to refresh your coldsnaps, I died bunch of times like an idiot because I did it wrong and got clipped by last hit of sp1.
  • Darkness275Darkness275 Member Posts: 879 ★★★★
    My first instinct when I saw the thread title was "70". Then I opened and read ClobberinTime's post and chuckled.

    You say you solo'd a couple of Path 1 fights, so this path itself will also be a bit of an easier one as it has a lot of fights that can be Solo'd with Shuri: Namor, Attuma, Wiccan, Apocalypse, Captain America.

    She's also a great counter for Captain Britain and Dragon Man both because you can choose not to crit.
    She completely ignores the "Against the Ropes" trap.

    Herc was really annoying when I did that path, so was Nova. Tigra becomes easy once you actually get the hang of dodging her specials down, she threw them so consistently during my fight it became clockwork, but one mistake and you're dead. I went full Karate Mike on this path and did it with only Shuri and Zemo. Fun, but not wise. The top half will be a slow crawl.

    Good luck. I'm wagering you're sub 70 revives.
  • Emilia90Emilia90 Member Posts: 3,677 ★★★★★
    I used like 35 or something but you should have a super easy time compared to me imo. I used a 6* r4 Shuri for Att and Apoc and they sucked like 15 revives out of me. Tigra is easy with Kate if you remember to keep tracking up and bait sp1’s.

    Kate does AW pretty easily, just heal to full and take some of the damage and she’ll still solo

    Herc sucks so bad. His sp1 spacing is weird and he mitigates damage
  • PolygonPolygon Member Posts: 4,863 ★★★★★
    Emilia90 said:

    I used like 35 or something but you should have a super easy time compared to me imo. I used a 6* r4 Shuri for Att and Apoc and they sucked like 15 revives out of me. Tigra is easy with Kate if you remember to keep tracking up and bait sp1’s.

    Kate does AW pretty easily, just heal to full and take some of the damage and she’ll still solo

    Herc sucks so bad. His sp1 spacing is weird and he mitigates damage

    Yeah I’ve always hated Hercs spacing. It looks like I have to pick between doing that fight with a nonideal option from kate or r2 chavez/shuri and being able to bring NF synergy versus bringing Abs Man. Abs could also help for the Air Walker ( I have not done a fight with Kate on cornered yet so not sure how hard it is to play around)
  • PolygonPolygon Member Posts: 4,863 ★★★★★
    Would Shuri work for that Herc? 7r2

  • captain_rogerscaptain_rogers Member Posts: 10,709 ★★★★★
    I have a question
    Will kate work for necropolis namor? Seems like no one tried her on namor.
  • Wong_98Wong_98 Member Posts: 1,015 ★★★★
    captain_rogers said:

    I have a question
    Will kate work for necropolis namor? Seems like no one tried her on namor.

    He’s unduped, so I don’t see why not, however there could be a reason I’m overlooking why people aren’t using her
  • willrun4adonutwillrun4adonut Member Posts: 5,346 ★★★★★
    Mine was 82, but that was with a 6*r5 ascended Shuri and Aegon. Yours should be lower with a 7* Shuri and Kate
  • PT_99PT_99 Member Posts: 5,109 ★★★★★
    What if one don't have Shuri, how to do the Mr F path?
  • ThePredator1001ThePredator1001 Member Posts: 1,028 ★★★★
    I used Shuri and Abs man for the second half of the apoc path, abs man gets ramped up by the trap node making him even stronger.

    Took me 65 revives
  • MrSakuragiMrSakuragi Member Posts: 5,884 ★★★★★
    PT_99 said:

    What if one don't have Shuri, how to do the Mr F path?

    OG Storm. Nick works for Namor, maybe not Attuma though.
  • PikoluPikolu Member, Guardian Posts: 8,096 Guardian
    I used like 15 revives to get through the first half and many of those were because it was the first time I fought the air walker and didn't know what I was doing, and didn't learn his kit until it was too late. That is a rough fight for 6* Chavez. Kate shouldn't have too much issue with him though because you can safely hit the opponent into the corner, just don't hit them in the corner.
  • PolygonPolygon Member Posts: 4,863 ★★★★★
    Pikolu said:

    I used like 15 revives to get through the first half and many of those were because it was the first time I fought the air walker and didn't know what I was doing, and didn't learn his kit until it was too late. That is a rough fight for 6* Chavez. Kate shouldn't have too much issue with him though because you can safely hit the opponent into the corner, just don't hit them in the corner.

    Between chavez, kate, and shuri who is best for herc? I can also drop NF 20% attack boost to bring Doom ( i said him because Doom would be better for grandmaster than absorbing man or any of those champs i listed).

    Aegon runs are a revive fest but he makes GM cheap. Shuri and Kate would take awhile and would not even be able to ignore the command prompts in phase 3
  • PureMangoOzPureMangoOz Member Posts: 3
    Took me 87 revives with a team of Aegon Stryfe Wong Jugs and Heimdall and no suicides or any mastery change. Stryfe was used for both Namor and Attuma. Wong for 1st half of Wiccan and Apoc and all of Nova. Wong was only there to try to lower the revive count cause I was low on revives. Aegon did the rest and I played him slowly to lessen the revive count. 5 revives on grandmaster with Juggs soloing the last phase.
  • Emilia90Emilia90 Member Posts: 3,677 ★★★★★
    Polygon said:

    Pikolu said:

    I used like 15 revives to get through the first half and many of those were because it was the first time I fought the air walker and didn't know what I was doing, and didn't learn his kit until it was too late. That is a rough fight for 6* Chavez. Kate shouldn't have too much issue with him though because you can safely hit the opponent into the corner, just don't hit them in the corner.

    Between chavez, kate, and shuri who is best for herc? I can also drop NF 20% attack boost to bring Doom ( i said him because Doom would be better for grandmaster than absorbing man or any of those champs i listed).

    Aegon runs are a revive fest but he makes GM cheap. Shuri and Kate would take awhile and would not even be able to ignore the command prompts in phase 3
    Kate works well, but you can’t stun him which is a bit annoying. The best part about Kate for that fight is that your evade counts as an intercept which satisfies the prompts and removes his protection. The first half of the fight is super easy, and the second half is a slog. I did it with about 3 revives but I wasn’t boosted super high so you should be fine. Just practice the sp1 spacing so you can keep coldsnap refreshed + use the striker when necessary and you should be good
  • PolygonPolygon Member Posts: 4,863 ★★★★★
    Emilia90 said:

    Polygon said:

    Pikolu said:

    I used like 15 revives to get through the first half and many of those were because it was the first time I fought the air walker and didn't know what I was doing, and didn't learn his kit until it was too late. That is a rough fight for 6* Chavez. Kate shouldn't have too much issue with him though because you can safely hit the opponent into the corner, just don't hit them in the corner.

    Between chavez, kate, and shuri who is best for herc? I can also drop NF 20% attack boost to bring Doom ( i said him because Doom would be better for grandmaster than absorbing man or any of those champs i listed).

    Aegon runs are a revive fest but he makes GM cheap. Shuri and Kate would take awhile and would not even be able to ignore the command prompts in phase 3
    Kate works well, but you can’t stun him which is a bit annoying. The best part about Kate for that fight is that your evade counts as an intercept which satisfies the prompts and removes his protection. The first half of the fight is super easy, and the second half is a slog. I did it with about 3 revives but I wasn’t boosted super high so you should be fine. Just practice the sp1 spacing so you can keep coldsnap refreshed + use the striker when necessary and you should be good
    So you just spammed coldsnap without fragility since its tough to refresh the debuffs since you cant stun him? Im thinking the fury synergy would be huge for Kate and Shuri so I probably wont bring a specific counter for Air Walker on the corner trap node/Herc

    Btw both sections 1 (mr fantastic lane) and section 2 (apoc lane) are easier than sections 1 and 2 of the Sauron /Surfer paths if I’m using Kate and have a 7 star Shuri?
  • ZuroZuro Member Posts: 2,928 ★★★★★
    Polygon said:

    Emilia90 said:

    Polygon said:

    Pikolu said:

    I used like 15 revives to get through the first half and many of those were because it was the first time I fought the air walker and didn't know what I was doing, and didn't learn his kit until it was too late. That is a rough fight for 6* Chavez. Kate shouldn't have too much issue with him though because you can safely hit the opponent into the corner, just don't hit them in the corner.

    Between chavez, kate, and shuri who is best for herc? I can also drop NF 20% attack boost to bring Doom ( i said him because Doom would be better for grandmaster than absorbing man or any of those champs i listed).

    Aegon runs are a revive fest but he makes GM cheap. Shuri and Kate would take awhile and would not even be able to ignore the command prompts in phase 3
    Kate works well, but you can’t stun him which is a bit annoying. The best part about Kate for that fight is that your evade counts as an intercept which satisfies the prompts and removes his protection. The first half of the fight is super easy, and the second half is a slog. I did it with about 3 revives but I wasn’t boosted super high so you should be fine. Just practice the sp1 spacing so you can keep coldsnap refreshed + use the striker when necessary and you should be good
    So you just spammed coldsnap without fragility since its tough to refresh the debuffs since you cant stun him? Im thinking the fury synergy would be huge for Kate and Shuri so I probably wont bring a specific counter for Air Walker on the corner trap node/Herc

    Btw both sections 1 (mr fantastic lane) and section 2 (apoc lane) are easier than sections 1 and 2 of the Sauron /Surfer paths if I’m using Kate and have a 7 star Shuri?
    You can still refresh your debuffs pretty easily if you counter his specials with your heavy, plus strikers also give a free refresh.
  • Emilia90Emilia90 Member Posts: 3,677 ★★★★★
    Polygon said:

    Emilia90 said:

    Polygon said:

    Pikolu said:

    I used like 15 revives to get through the first half and many of those were because it was the first time I fought the air walker and didn't know what I was doing, and didn't learn his kit until it was too late. That is a rough fight for 6* Chavez. Kate shouldn't have too much issue with him though because you can safely hit the opponent into the corner, just don't hit them in the corner.

    Between chavez, kate, and shuri who is best for herc? I can also drop NF 20% attack boost to bring Doom ( i said him because Doom would be better for grandmaster than absorbing man or any of those champs i listed).

    Aegon runs are a revive fest but he makes GM cheap. Shuri and Kate would take awhile and would not even be able to ignore the command prompts in phase 3
    Kate works well, but you can’t stun him which is a bit annoying. The best part about Kate for that fight is that your evade counts as an intercept which satisfies the prompts and removes his protection. The first half of the fight is super easy, and the second half is a slog. I did it with about 3 revives but I wasn’t boosted super high so you should be fine. Just practice the sp1 spacing so you can keep coldsnap refreshed + use the striker when necessary and you should be good
    So you just spammed coldsnap without fragility since its tough to refresh the debuffs since you cant stun him? Im thinking the fury synergy would be huge for Kate and Shuri so I probably wont bring a specific counter for Air Walker on the corner trap node/Herc

    Btw both sections 1 (mr fantastic lane) and section 2 (apoc lane) are easier than sections 1 and 2 of the Sauron /Surfer paths if I’m using Kate and have a 7 star Shuri?
    Yup, I initially set up fragility my first attempt and used coldsnap, but I just used coldsnap off the bat in later attempts. If you set up fragility once he gets lower, you’ll run out of charges quick and you won’t get much damage off

    They should be. Mr. F, Att, and Namor should be a breeze with Shuri and Kate, and the rest of the path is just standard stuff. 7* Shuri should destroy everything Kate can’t handle as well, and it should be easier. The second half has the annoying Herc fight, but it’s just standard stuff outside of that. Shuri for Apoc, Kate for Tigra, and Kate for everything else
  • PolygonPolygon Member Posts: 4,863 ★★★★★
    edited January 2024
    @Emilia90 @Zuro thanks it looks like besides hercules the rest of mr f/apoc is a complete breeze, also unlike for the other path you’re able to fit NF synergy which is great for kate and shuri



    For storm px i was going to originally bring Ronan, but would Herc work? With shuri and kate, GM could take longer to get down so someone that can do both storm and be good for GM seems better than Ronan just for 1 fight imo.

    Also regarding the relic, should i use 6* BW to fill up the spirit gauge faster or 5* WS relic for the extra damage? Filling up the gauge faster can help for fights that are a bit more tricky to refresh debuffs and my WS relic is only rank 2
  • ZuroZuro Member Posts: 2,928 ★★★★★
    Polygon said:

    @Emilia90 @Zuro thanks it looks like besides hercules the rest of mr f/apoc is a complete breeze, also unlike for the other path you’re able to fit NF synergy which is great for kate and shuri



    For storm px i was going to originally bring Ronan, but would Herc work? With shuri and kate, GM could take longer to get down so someone that can do both storm and be good for GM seems better than Ronan just for 1 fight imo.

    Also regarding the relic, should i use 6* BW to fill up the spirit gauge faster or 5* WS relic for the extra damage? Filling up the gauge faster can help for fights that are a bit more tricky to refresh debuffs and my WS relic is only rank 2

    I personally would go for the WS relic as the extra damage really adds up over time, whereas the BW simply fills up a tad bit faster so it wont make much a difference. I used Lady D for storm px, but ive seen people use guilly 2099, Iron man, and FAM, there are more options too but it is up to you who youre most comfortable with.
  • PolygonPolygon Member Posts: 4,863 ★★★★★
    Zuro said:

    Polygon said:

    @Emilia90 @Zuro thanks it looks like besides hercules the rest of mr f/apoc is a complete breeze, also unlike for the other path you’re able to fit NF synergy which is great for kate and shuri



    For storm px i was going to originally bring Ronan, but would Herc work? With shuri and kate, GM could take longer to get down so someone that can do both storm and be good for GM seems better than Ronan just for 1 fight imo.

    Also regarding the relic, should i use 6* BW to fill up the spirit gauge faster or 5* WS relic for the extra damage? Filling up the gauge faster can help for fights that are a bit more tricky to refresh debuffs and my WS relic is only rank 2

    I personally would go for the WS relic as the extra damage really adds up over time, whereas the BW simply fills up a tad bit faster so it wont make much a difference. I used Lady D for storm px, but ive seen people use guilly 2099, Iron man, and FAM, there are more options too but it is up to you who youre most comfortable with.
    Thanks, by the way would you agree that the Surfer Lane is harder than the Apoc lane for Kate/Shuri? I’ve heard that the indestructible trap node on the apoc lane can be really annoying for both of them and making the fights last longer (which means doing less damage before the rooted phase).

    I have a lot of revives and potions expiring and trying to figure out which path in section 2 to take that would most likely require using the most of the 2
  • ZuroZuro Member Posts: 2,928 ★★★★★
    edited January 2024
    Polygon said:

    Zuro said:

    Polygon said:

    @Emilia90 @Zuro thanks it looks like besides hercules the rest of mr f/apoc is a complete breeze, also unlike for the other path you’re able to fit NF synergy which is great for kate and shuri



    For storm px i was going to originally bring Ronan, but would Herc work? With shuri and kate, GM could take longer to get down so someone that can do both storm and be good for GM seems better than Ronan just for 1 fight imo.

    Also regarding the relic, should i use 6* BW to fill up the spirit gauge faster or 5* WS relic for the extra damage? Filling up the gauge faster can help for fights that are a bit more tricky to refresh debuffs and my WS relic is only rank 2

    I personally would go for the WS relic as the extra damage really adds up over time, whereas the BW simply fills up a tad bit faster so it wont make much a difference. I used Lady D for storm px, but ive seen people use guilly 2099, Iron man, and FAM, there are more options too but it is up to you who youre most comfortable with.
    Thanks, by the way would you agree that the Surfer Lane is harder than the Apoc lane for Kate/Shuri? I’ve heard that the indestructible trap node on the apoc lane can be really annoying for both of them and making the fights last longer (which means doing less damage before the rooted phase).

    I have a lot of revives and potions expiring and trying to figure out which path in section 2 to take that would most likely require using the most of the 2
    Surfer lane is probably easier imo, but a big tip is that you want to go for sp2s with Kate, as the stun at the end of the sp2 helps wait out the timer to dex again.
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