Hercules isn't getting nerfed

Avnish · January 29

It is great Hercules is not getting nerfed. But my friends one day will come when no one care about nerfing Hercules because we will be having great champions in this incredible game.

For now even I don't care if herc get nerfed or not. Because I mostly use him incursions and he always saves me so many revives. If herc get nerfed now then he just only be replaced with Aegon or Angela for incursion. But back in the days when I was new Hercules helped me a lot in act 6.2 to 6.4. Thanks to Hercules and kabam.

But here is the situation of Hercules
In AW he is always get banned.
In Bg he is useful like others do.
In AQ he is useful but other can also do better.
In EOP he is useful for first 4 fights specially in left side. I used him in every objective.
In Necropolis he is not much useful because in necropolis his immortality wouldn't work. Aegon, kate, shuri will do much better than him.
EQ and SQ it doesn't matter even you don't have Hercules you will complete EQ and SQ easily.
In Incursion he is the best champion to do the incursion.

Sometime I Hulkling seems much better than herc. Obviously I always chose Hercules whenever he is not banned 😂 but in most of the AW Hercules is no 1 to be banned.

So for me Hercules is only useful in incursion.

HungaryHippo · January 29

monkeys said:

Pikolu said:

Ming_Mow129 said:
Don't know where demonzfyre gets his facts from but should read and then reread kabam mikes posts bc there was a big word missing in one of them and that word being (Not) as In not being nerfed. Don't go off on proff hoff he did it right and did his research you didn't.
Reading is difficult, I get it.

It's cute that you went to the trouble to circle the "not", but left out the "yet" that is what is being keyed on by most that are concerned. The yet dramatically changes the meaning....who would feel their job is safe when the boss says they want to fire you, but they haven't...."yet." I really think it would not have been the dramafest it is, if the clarification had been the yet was an unintended error.

There's a word for that; gaslighting.

SirGamesBond · January 29

It's amusing all these genius internet folks derived herc nerf from one simple comment.
People do have difficulty connecting causes and effects.

FunnyDude · January 29

Demonzfyre said:

FunnyDude said:
If you played this game long enough and read the forum long enough, then you should know Miike didn't mean nerfing Herc, but people just took the opportunity to prove Miike is not good at communicating with the community, which is true IMO.
I 100% disagree. I believe they want to reduce the potency of Herc in MCOC. I think if we ever want to see him as a 7* he would have to be changed.

Also, while yes, there have been some communication errors in the years of MCOC, Miike isn't as "bad" at communicating as you all portray him to be.

Miike tends to be more raw with the community, especially after such a long time. Most of these people here on the treat Miike and to an extent, Jax, terribly. You want to be able to say anything you want about them but the second they turn it back on you, even just a little bit, you tell them they shouldn't act that way, you'd never talk to "customers" that way, etc..

Most of the time, he's called bad at communicating because you just don't like what's being communicated. As much hate as you all have given Miike over the years, I'm surprised he hasn't left MCOC. It really shows he cares about the game, the company and the community regardless of how he's treated.

I don't love or hate anyone in this forum.
I don't even care about Herc, I have no love on Herc, he is OP but not even in my top10 favorite champions, why do I care? I'm just describing what I saw, of course you can say everyone on Youtube and reddit are wrong and insane, but I think the odd of everyone being wrong but you being right is pretty low.

Bigfoot33 · January 29

Demonzfyre said:

Stop looking at Reddit.

Stop watching Prof Hoff.

Stop paying attention to global chat.

Let me preface by saying I have a R5 Ascended Hercules. Why? For AQ. Hercules is an extremely OP champion. The unfortunate consequence of the perfect design is that it slows the learning of nodes in the game that newer to moderately newer players need to understand how they work.

Kabam will likely never touch his kit and abilities but will probably introduce nodes to counter immortality. But it's not like they're sitting at their work desks planning this right now.

This all started because of misinformation from the Livestreams. People heard what they wanted to hear and are spreading fake information. Even with Miike's comment on the other thread that everyone can see, things persisted.

Then Prof Hoff gets involved and instead of using his influence, he makes it all worse, makes a video before doing any research and basically adds to the panic his subscribers already had.

You're safe to continue using your crutch in the game. At least try and branch out. This game has tons of amazing champions. But as long as the focus is on Hercules, Silver Centurion will continue to secretly still be the best champion in the game and more OP than Hercules. 😏

YET you didn't post his original answer on this topic posted in this forum. 🤔

Mad_Lad · January 29

Bigfoot33 said:

Demonzfyre said:

Stop looking at Reddit.

Stop watching Prof Hoff.

Stop paying attention to global chat.

Let me preface by saying I have a R5 Ascended Hercules. Why? For AQ. Hercules is an extremely OP champion. The unfortunate consequence of the perfect design is that it slows the learning of nodes in the game that newer to moderately newer players need to understand how they work.

Kabam will likely never touch his kit and abilities but will probably introduce nodes to counter immortality. But it's not like they're sitting at their work desks planning this right now.

This all started because of misinformation from the Livestreams. People heard what they wanted to hear and are spreading fake information. Even with Miike's comment on the other thread that everyone can see, things persisted.

Then Prof Hoff gets involved and instead of using his influence, he makes it all worse, makes a video before doing any research and basically adds to the panic his subscribers already had.

You're safe to continue using your crutch in the game. At least try and branch out. This game has tons of amazing champions. But as long as the focus is on Hercules, Silver Centurion will continue to secretly still be the best champion in the game and more OP than Hercules. 😏
YET you didn't post his original answer on this topic posted in this forum. 🤔

That thread I posted was taken down, was I right or was I right.

ReignkingTW · January 29

Mad_Lad said:

Bigfoot33 said:

Demonzfyre said:

Stop looking at Reddit.

Stop watching Prof Hoff.

Stop paying attention to global chat.

Let me preface by saying I have a R5 Ascended Hercules. Why? For AQ. Hercules is an extremely OP champion. The unfortunate consequence of the perfect design is that it slows the learning of nodes in the game that newer to moderately newer players need to understand how they work.

Kabam will likely never touch his kit and abilities but will probably introduce nodes to counter immortality. But it's not like they're sitting at their work desks planning this right now.

This all started because of misinformation from the Livestreams. People heard what they wanted to hear and are spreading fake information. Even with Miike's comment on the other thread that everyone can see, things persisted.

Then Prof Hoff gets involved and instead of using his influence, he makes it all worse, makes a video before doing any research and basically adds to the panic his subscribers already had.

You're safe to continue using your crutch in the game. At least try and branch out. This game has tons of amazing champions. But as long as the focus is on Hercules, Silver Centurion will continue to secretly still be the best champion in the game and more OP than Hercules. 😏
YET you didn't post his original answer on this topic posted in this forum. 🤔
That thread I posted was taken down, was I right or was I right.

No.

There was a thread with his original post. It was closed. Another thread popped up. Then came this tweet, so instead of it getting buried a new thread was started so that people could see the clarification.

GroundedWisdom · January 29

To be perfectly honest, I'm over him anyway. The same happened with me using Quake. You get tired of the same old shortcuts after a while and you want to use other Champs.

Mad_Lad · January 29

Mad_Lad said:

Bigfoot33 said:

Demonzfyre said:

Stop looking at Reddit.

Stop watching Prof Hoff.

Stop paying attention to global chat.

Let me preface by saying I have a R5 Ascended Hercules. Why? For AQ. Hercules is an extremely OP champion. The unfortunate consequence of the perfect design is that it slows the learning of nodes in the game that newer to moderately newer players need to understand how they work.

Kabam will likely never touch his kit and abilities but will probably introduce nodes to counter immortality. But it's not like they're sitting at their work desks planning this right now.

This all started because of misinformation from the Livestreams. People heard what they wanted to hear and are spreading fake information. Even with Miike's comment on the other thread that everyone can see, things persisted.

Then Prof Hoff gets involved and instead of using his influence, he makes it all worse, makes a video before doing any research and basically adds to the panic his subscribers already had.

You're safe to continue using your crutch in the game. At least try and branch out. This game has tons of amazing champions. But as long as the focus is on Hercules, Silver Centurion will continue to secretly still be the best champion in the game and more OP than Hercules. 😏
YET you didn't post his original answer on this topic posted in this forum. 🤔
That thread I posted was taken down, was I right or was I right.

Demonzfyre said:

Stop looking at Reddit.

Stop watching Prof Hoff.

Stop paying attention to global chat.

Let me preface by saying I have a R5 Ascended Hercules. Why? For AQ. Hercules is an extremely OP champion. The unfortunate consequence of the perfect design is that it slows the learning of nodes in the game that newer to moderately newer players need to understand how they work.

Kabam will likely never touch his kit and abilities but will probably introduce nodes to counter immortality. But it's not like they're sitting at their work desks planning this right now.

This all started because of misinformation from the Livestreams. People heard what they wanted to hear and are spreading fake information. Even with Miike's comment on the other thread that everyone can see, things persisted.

Then Prof Hoff gets involved and instead of using his influence, he makes it all worse, makes a video before doing any research and basically adds to the panic his subscribers already had.

You're safe to continue using your crutch in the game. At least try and branch out. This game has tons of amazing champions. But as long as the focus is on Hercules, Silver Centurion will continue to secretly still be the best champion in the game and more OP than Hercules. 😏

My thread was taken down, was I right or was I right 😂

Mad_Lad · January 29

GroundedWisdom · January 29

GroundedWisdom said:
To be perfectly honest, I'm over him anyway. The same happened with me using Quake. You get tired of the same old shortcuts after a while and you want to use other Champs.

* I never even used an Ascension on him.

Bigfoot33 · January 29

GroundedWisdom said:
To be perfectly honest, I'm over him anyway. The same happened with me using Quake. You get tired of the same old shortcuts after a while and you want to use other Champs.

That's your choice like everyone has. I feel the same sometimes. Branch out. I have gotten better intercepting after learning Hercules style.

GroundedWisdom · January 29

Bigfoot33 said:

GroundedWisdom said:
To be perfectly honest, I'm over him anyway. The same happened with me using Quake. You get tired of the same old shortcuts after a while and you want to use other Champs.
That's your choice like everyone has. I feel the same sometimes. Branch out. I have gotten better intercepting after learning Hercules style.

I will say he comes in handy for Scytalis, with the BP Synergy. Credit to YouTube. Lol.

Demonzfyre · January 29

Bigfoot33 said:

Demonzfyre said:

Stop looking at Reddit.

Stop watching Prof Hoff.

Stop paying attention to global chat.

Let me preface by saying I have a R5 Ascended Hercules. Why? For AQ. Hercules is an extremely OP champion. The unfortunate consequence of the perfect design is that it slows the learning of nodes in the game that newer to moderately newer players need to understand how they work.

Kabam will likely never touch his kit and abilities but will probably introduce nodes to counter immortality. But it's not like they're sitting at their work desks planning this right now.

This all started because of misinformation from the Livestreams. People heard what they wanted to hear and are spreading fake information. Even with Miike's comment on the other thread that everyone can see, things persisted.

Then Prof Hoff gets involved and instead of using his influence, he makes it all worse, makes a video before doing any research and basically adds to the panic his subscribers already had.

You're safe to continue using your crutch in the game. At least try and branch out. This game has tons of amazing champions. But as long as the focus is on Hercules, Silver Centurion will continue to secretly still be the best champion in the game and more OP than Hercules. 😏
YET you didn't post his original answer on this topic posted in this forum. 🤔

I didn't post it because it was already covered multiple times.

Demonzfyre · January 29

Mad_Lad said:

Mad_Lad said:

Bigfoot33 said:

Demonzfyre said:

Stop looking at Reddit.

Stop watching Prof Hoff.

Stop paying attention to global chat.

Let me preface by saying I have a R5 Ascended Hercules. Why? For AQ. Hercules is an extremely OP champion. The unfortunate consequence of the perfect design is that it slows the learning of nodes in the game that newer to moderately newer players need to understand how they work.

Kabam will likely never touch his kit and abilities but will probably introduce nodes to counter immortality. But it's not like they're sitting at their work desks planning this right now.

This all started because of misinformation from the Livestreams. People heard what they wanted to hear and are spreading fake information. Even with Miike's comment on the other thread that everyone can see, things persisted.

Then Prof Hoff gets involved and instead of using his influence, he makes it all worse, makes a video before doing any research and basically adds to the panic his subscribers already had.

You're safe to continue using your crutch in the game. At least try and branch out. This game has tons of amazing champions. But as long as the focus is on Hercules, Silver Centurion will continue to secretly still be the best champion in the game and more OP than Hercules. 😏
YET you didn't post his original answer on this topic posted in this forum. 🤔
That thread I posted was taken down, was I right or was I right.

Demonzfyre said:

Stop looking at Reddit.

Stop watching Prof Hoff.

Stop paying attention to global chat.

Let me preface by saying I have a R5 Ascended Hercules. Why? For AQ. Hercules is an extremely OP champion. The unfortunate consequence of the perfect design is that it slows the learning of nodes in the game that newer to moderately newer players need to understand how they work.

Kabam will likely never touch his kit and abilities but will probably introduce nodes to counter immortality. But it's not like they're sitting at their work desks planning this right now.

This all started because of misinformation from the Livestreams. People heard what they wanted to hear and are spreading fake information. Even with Miike's comment on the other thread that everyone can see, things persisted.

Then Prof Hoff gets involved and instead of using his influence, he makes it all worse, makes a video before doing any research and basically adds to the panic his subscribers already had.

You're safe to continue using your crutch in the game. At least try and branch out. This game has tons of amazing champions. But as long as the focus is on Hercules, Silver Centurion will continue to secretly still be the best champion in the game and more OP than Hercules. 😏
My thread was taken down, was I right or was I right 😂

Yes, because it was riddled with forum ToS violations and isn't constructive. I knew it would come down.

Polygon · January 29

I’m tired of seeing this thread on the home page. Why hasnt it been closed yet? Its led to nothing but arguments.

Demonzfyre · January 29

Polygon said:
I’m tired of seeing this thread on the home page. Why hasnt it been closed yet? Its led to nothing but arguments.

They can close it. It's fine by me.

BringPopcorn · January 29

Polygon said:
I’m tired of seeing this thread on the home page. Why hasnt it been closed yet? Its led to nothing but arguments.

You know that by participating in it, you are adding to "keeping it on the homepage"....

ReignkingTW · January 30

BringPopcorn said:

Polygon said:
I’m tired of seeing this thread on the home page. Why hasnt it been closed yet? Its led to nothing but arguments.
You know that by participating in it, you are adding to "keeping it on the homepage"....

It'd be a shame for that to happen.

SirGamesBond · January 30

#TeamNerfHerc

smdam38 · January 30

I want to see everyone wrecking content with these supposed overpowered champs.

Where’s a herc or quake or magik solo on this end game content?

smdam38 · January 30

Show me and I’ll leave.

BringPopcorn · January 30

smdam38 said:
Show me and I’ll leave.

Did you start playing the game yesterday?.. Hercules broke every piece of EoP old and new....

smdam38 · January 30

Again, show me.

ItsClobberinTime · January 30

smdam38 said:
Again, show me.

https://youtu.be/guZaWBvNNNs?si=8vAz2zaz9QYIcZS1
Promise us you'll stop being delusional after this though yeah?

phillgreen · January 30

Has anyone ever received an ingame ban for being a flog on the forums?

GroundedWisdom · January 30

phillgreen said:
Has anyone ever received an ingame ban for being a flog on the forums?

Only for the most egregious behavior.

Manup456 · January 30

I still wonder how all these guys got Mythic titles and who they used 🤔 was that any different than what Herc did in EOP 😂

Edit: Would also like to know how many Aegons got r5 and ascended

ItsClobberinTime · January 30

Manup456 said:
I still wonder how all these guys got Mythic titles and who they used 🤔 was that any different than what Herc did in EOP 😂

Edit: Would also like to know how many Aegons got r5 and ascended

Herc can solo with no revives.
Ægon needs a lot of revives.
I hope that made it a little easier to understand now 🙂

smdam38 · January 30

ItsClobberinTime said:

smdam38 said:
Again, show me.
https://youtu.be/guZaWBvNNNs?si=8vAz2zaz9QYIcZS1
Promise us you'll stop being delusional after this though yeah?

Is this you? Can you do that?

Hercules isn't getting nerfed

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