This game is not fun to play anymore

Jayrodz · February 6

I have been playing this game for a number of years now been in regular alliances and frustrating nodes and champion designs/abilities I have more fun having my teeth taken out kabam if you want longevity look at what you are doing

Wong_98 · February 6

Ok. Go ahead and leave

then I’ll see you back here next week complaining again

Seriously, if the “game is not fun to play anymore” then don’t play it

Sundance_2099 · February 6

as the UK anti-gambling slogan says, "If the fun stops, stop." In your case, if it's not fun, stop playing, either permanently or at least for a while. I used to play MFF and it got to be a chore, so I quit. I went back to it last year for all of a day and decided I didn't fancy playing it any more and gave up. I stopped playing Angry Birds 2 after 8 years as well because I just got cheesed off with the increasing monetisation and same-old daily grind. So, if you feel that bad, really, just give up.

Skydad23 · February 6

Wong_98 said:
Ok. Go ahead and leave
then I’ll see you back here next week complaining again

Seriously, if the “game is not fun to play anymore” then don’t play it

Maybe that’s what he will do? This is a forum a place where you give feedback. I would think Kabam as a company, appreciates feedback, positive or negative. This post was constructive criticism. He gave a reason. You were entitled to your reply, even though it really offers nothing. I’m sure he knows he could leave the game. Maybe that’s not obvious to you hopefully my reply clears that up with you. People are intelligent enough to know that they can leave the game.

Thecurler · February 6

OP has a point imo.

This is something I just posted in another thread…

Based off the comments I’m seeing in line chats, people are growing increasingly frustrated with the current direction of the game…

Game becoming flooded with annoying defenders - linked to many of them needing specific counters and the eternal chase for them.
Massive chip and unavoidable damage becoming a thing again.
Annoying and unenjoyable nodes, rather than fun and challenging.
Rewards and general economy feeling outdated in much of the game.

Many of us have invested a lot of time and money in this game, also been here for the ups and downs.
This forum allows us the opportunity to provide some feedback.
On rare occasions, Kabam act upon that feedback.

Emilia90 · February 6

Thecurler said:
OP has a point imo.

This is something I just posted in another thread…

Based off the comments I’m seeing in line chats, people are growing increasingly frustrated with the current direction of the game…

Game becoming flooded with annoying defenders - linked to many of them needing specific counters and the eternal chase for them.
Massive chip and unavoidable damage becoming a thing again.
Annoying and unenjoyable nodes, rather than fun and challenging.
Rewards and general economy feeling outdated in much of the game.

Many of us have invested a lot of time and money in this game, also been here for the ups and downs.
This forum allows us the opportunity to provide some feedback.
On rare occasions, Kabam act upon that feedback.

1. Game has always had annoying defenders. Bullseye is the only recent addition with very few counters and literally everyone else can be played around
2. No? There’s really not massive chip damage in everything. Every major piece of content (act content, Necro) have been balanced. Raids were new and had some bad design choices, but they listened to that feedback. AW is the only thing I can think of and they toned that down
3. Once again, other than AW, the nodes have been fine
4. Some of the stores need an update but they’re giving us a lot of new stuff this year

NüΚΞ · February 6

My biggest issue are the bugs. Characters with two hit combos being parried. AI not throwing specials in combination with debilitating nodes. Example of that is the new incursions with Dani Moonstar. I faced her twice in my last run and the way the nodes were set up you do not want her to throw the sp2. With her impact damage and the amount of hits in the special you just die. She just wouldn’t throw her sp1. I’d be curious to hear from Kabam on what their expectation is of players to get the AI to throw a special?

I also spent time and some money taking toad to R5 and ascended him to be a great counter to NF. That hasn’t worked for a while now. It would be cool if that could be fixed so I could use the champ as intended.

Some of these bugs you can work around like in BG. If you are in a necro run or incursions these issues equate to either starting over or paying out for really expensive revives (especially incursions) hard content is okay but hard content with bugs is just not a fun time. You also nerfed revive farming so now we have to spend money or grind units to pay out as a consequence of said bugs. Also not fair game play.

I’d be for a pause in monthly EQ for Kabam to address the bugs in game currently for the sake of all players.

Colinwhitworth69 · February 6

I’ve been having less fun in the game and am playing less. Just doing stuff that is fun.

Demonzfyre · February 6

Skydad23 said:

Wong_98 said:
Ok. Go ahead and leave
then I’ll see you back here next week complaining again

Seriously, if the “game is not fun to play anymore” then don’t play it
Maybe that’s what he will do? This is a forum a place where you give feedback. I would think Kabam as a company, appreciates feedback, positive or negative. This post was constructive criticism. He gave a reason. You were entitled to your reply, even though it really offers nothing. I’m sure he knows he could leave the game. Maybe that’s not obvious to you hopefully my reply clears that up with you. People are intelligent enough to know that they can leave the game.

Pretend you're Kabam. Take OPs "feedback" and tell me what actions you can take to make changes to make players more happy. Tell me in detail which part of OPs comment you would take action on first. What changes would you make? What feedback would you relay to your teams within the company?

@Skydad23 Looking forward to hearing how'd you'd do with this "feedback".

Demonzfyre · February 6

NüΚΞ said:
My biggest issue are the bugs. Characters with two hit combos being parried. AI not throwing specials in combination with debilitating nodes. Example of that is the new incursions with Dani Moonstar. I faced her twice in my last run and the way the nodes were set up you do not want her to throw the sp2. With her impact damage and the amount of hits in the special you just die. She just wouldn’t throw her sp1. I’d be curious to hear from Kabam on what their expectation is of players to get the AI to throw a special?

I also spent time and some money taking toad to R5 and ascended him to be a great counter to NF. That hasn’t worked for a while now. It would be cool if that could be fixed so I could use the champ as intended.

Some of these bugs you can work around like in BG. If you are in a necro run or incursions these issues equate to either starting over or paying out for really expensive revives (especially incursions) hard content is okay but hard content with bugs is just not a fun time. You also nerfed revive farming so now we have to spend money or grind units to pay out as a consequence of said bugs. Also not fair game play.

I’d be for a pause in monthly EQ for Kabam to address the bugs in game currently for the sake of all players.

How would pausing EQ's fix bugs faster?

ahmynuts · February 6

Skydad23 said:

Wong_98 said:
Ok. Go ahead and leave
then I’ll see you back here next week complaining again

Seriously, if the “game is not fun to play anymore” then don’t play it
Maybe that’s what he will do? This is a forum a place where you give feedback. I would think Kabam as a company, appreciates feedback, positive or negative. This post was constructive criticism. He gave a reason. You were entitled to your reply, even though it really offers nothing. I’m sure he knows he could leave the game. Maybe that’s not obvious to you hopefully my reply clears that up with you. People are intelligent enough to know that they can leave the game.

There's nothing constructive about the feedback op has provided therefore it is unnecessary and just complaining which kabam can do nothing with.

Zlumerican · February 6

Think your all nuts! Love the game and love the direction it's been going keep up the excellent work of continuing to
keep our game ftp for us as well.

ahmynuts · February 6

Zlumerican said:
Think your all nuts! Love the game and love the direction it's been going keep up the excellent work of continuing to
keep our game ftp for us as well.

Did I hear nuts?

Avengers320 · February 6

Good for you bro

pseudosane · February 6

DUHveed said:

NüΚΞ said:
My biggest issue are the bugs. Characters with two hit combos being parried. AI not throwing specials in combination with debilitating nodes. Example of that is the new incursions with Dani Moonstar. I faced her twice in my last run and the way the nodes were set up you do not want her to throw the sp2. With her impact damage and the amount of hits in the special you just die. She just wouldn’t throw her sp1. I’d be curious to hear from Kabam on what their expectation is of players to get the AI to throw a special?

I also spent time and some money taking toad to R5 and ascended him to be a great counter to NF. That hasn’t worked for a while now. It would be cool if that could be fixed so I could use the champ as intended.

Some of these bugs you can work around like in BG. If you are in a necro run or incursions these issues equate to either starting over or paying out for really expensive revives (especially incursions) hard content is okay but hard content with bugs is just not a fun time. You also nerfed revive farming so now we have to spend money or grind units to pay out as a consequence of said bugs. Also not fair game play.

I’d be for a pause in monthly EQ for Kabam to address the bugs in game currently for the sake of all players.
All I heard was skill issue

Lol, smartass comments like this usually add nothing to a discussion.

BigBlueOx · February 6

Between the AI that routinely performs actions in super human speed, BGs feeling grindy, more limited but not as rewarding as it used to, punishing and unbalanced AW tactics, encroachments into QoL like no Xmas break and Raid beta testing and a flood of defenders who require specific counters the OP has a point… it has not been fun with the exception of necropolis which isn’t for everyone.

obsidiman · February 6

Totally thought Charliejiggens was out of forum jail. Not gonna lie... was a little disappointed.

Pikolu · February 6

NüΚΞ said:
I’d be for a pause in monthly EQ for Kabam to address the bugs in game currently for the sake of all players.

Okay guys, repeat after me:

Different 👏 teams 👏 work 👏 on 👏 different 👏 parts 👏 of 👏 the 👏 game.

Quest designers don't deal with bugs, so asking to shut down Monthly EQ until the bugs are fixed is the same as asking kabam to fire a large number of employees who have no job in the game anymore.

jcphillips7 · February 6

Pikolu said:

NüΚΞ said:
I’d be for a pause in monthly EQ for Kabam to address the bugs in game currently for the sake of all players.
Okay guys, repeat after me:

Different 👏 teams 👏 work 👏 on 👏 different 👏 parts 👏 of 👏 the 👏 game.

You should tell this to the others my wife works with, because apparently she ends up doing everyone's job.

BringPopcorn · February 6

Pikolu said:

NüΚΞ said:
I’d be for a pause in monthly EQ for Kabam to address the bugs in game currently for the sake of all players.
Okay guys, repeat after me:

Different 👏 teams 👏 work 👏 on 👏 different 👏 parts 👏 of 👏 the 👏 game.

Quest designers don't deal with bugs, so asking to shut down Monthly EQ until the bugs are fixed is the same as asking kabam to fire a large number of employees who have no job in the game anymore.

You missed a clap at the end...

Twist1298 · February 6

The gameplay definitely needs work with all the issues going on, and I think there can be ways to work on it. Just got to find the time and focus. Right now they're focusing on increasing revenue because they feel that is more than important. I've also noticed little tweaks on how to spend units to include ranking up champions. So they definitely have the ability to because if you fixed gameplay that extends the life of the game and settles quite a bit of the frustration.

Demonzfyre · February 6

Twist1298 said:
The gameplay definitely needs work with all the issues going on, and I think there can be ways to work on it. Just got to find the time and focus. Right now they're focusing on increasing revenue because they feel that is more than important. I've also noticed little tweaks on how to spend units to include ranking up champions. So they definitely have the ability to because if you fixed gameplay that extends the life of the game and settles quite a bit of the frustration.

Wut?

BigBlueOx · February 6

Pikolu said:

NüΚΞ said:
I’d be for a pause in monthly EQ for Kabam to address the bugs in game currently for the sake of all players.
Okay guys, repeat after me:

Different 👏 teams 👏 work 👏 on 👏 different 👏 parts 👏 of 👏 the 👏 game.

Quest designers don't deal with bugs, so asking to shut down Monthly EQ until the bugs are fixed is the same as asking kabam to fire a large number of employees who have no job in the game anymore.

I don’t know what you said as I’ve trained my brain to filter out anything that uses that emoji to make a point…

NüΚΞ · February 6

Lmao people getting worked up when other players criticize issues with the game. I never mentioned anything about nodes or content. I mentioned bugs… and to the EQ thing what I was getting at… 👏🏻Is 👏🏻they👏🏻 should 👏🏻be 👏🏻prioritized 👏🏻more 👏🏻than 👏🏻they 👏🏻are 👏🏻now.

Demonzfyre · February 6

NüΚΞ said:
Lmao people getting worked up when other players criticize issues with the game. I never mentioned anything about nodes or content. I mentioned bugs… and to the EQ thing what I was getting at… 👏🏻Is 👏🏻they👏🏻 should 👏🏻be 👏🏻prioritized 👏🏻more 👏🏻than 👏🏻they 👏🏻are 👏🏻now.

They are prioritized..... By the team that works and fixes bugs. They just are prioritized the way you feel it needs to be.

The teams the design quests, champions, economy or UI aren't the team that fixes bugs. So saying they should stop making new EQs in lue of fixing bugs is ignorant.

It's like saying McDonald's should close until all their ice cream machines are working probably.

klobberintyme · February 6

Demonzfyre said:

NüΚΞ said:
Lmao people getting worked up when other players criticize issues with the game. I never mentioned anything about nodes or content. I mentioned bugs… and to the EQ thing what I was getting at… 👏🏻Is 👏🏻they👏🏻 should 👏🏻be 👏🏻prioritized 👏🏻more 👏🏻than 👏🏻they 👏🏻are 👏🏻now.

It's like saying McDonald's should close until all their ice cream machines are working probably.

The frozen dairy-adjace machines usually work but are a pain to clean which is why i usually hear Sorry Shake machine not working.

As for those with complaints, let's all remember the following: MCOC is a 9-year-old infrastructure with newer parts using newish methods grafted on, with fingers crossed that the new stuff talks to the old stuff and runs on enough new operating systems. There's a reason most games have a finite shelf life, cause most game devs would flip their lids if told they can't stray far from a 9-year-old combat system, but oh, keep cranking that content out.

As for fun, I have fun playing for the 30 minutes a day, on the content i can play for just 30 minutes a day. That's some feedback data for a user well outside the 18-49 target demo.

BigBlueOx · February 6

NüΚΞ said:
Lmao people getting worked up when other players criticize issues with the game. I never mentioned anything about nodes or content. I mentioned bugs… and to the EQ thing what I was getting at… 👏🏻Is 👏🏻they👏🏻 should 👏🏻be 👏🏻prioritized 👏🏻more 👏🏻than 👏🏻they 👏🏻are 👏🏻now.

All I read was 👏

I must assume there was nothing valuable to add to the conversation.

DNA3000 · February 6

NüΚΞ said:
Lmao people getting worked up when other players criticize issues with the game. I never mentioned anything about nodes or content. I mentioned bugs… and to the EQ thing what I was getting at… 👏🏻Is 👏🏻they👏🏻 should 👏🏻be 👏🏻prioritized 👏🏻more 👏🏻than 👏🏻they 👏🏻are 👏🏻now.

If you want fewer bugs in, say, the game infrastructure, taking the content developers off of monthly EQ to put them to work on those issues is much more likely to increase the number of bugs, not reduce them.

Also, this is a game as a service. Releasing content on a regular schedule is what the game does. Asking for the game to halt EQ so they can focus on bugs is like asking a television program to just go dark for a few months so they can work on polishing the writing.

The game team has to do the best they can within the parameters they operate within. Without monthly content and monthly champion releases, there is no game. Once players realize next month might not have any new content or new champions because someone decided eh, we're going to work on something else, that's when the game dies a very quick death. The odds of this happening are so low, the odds of Kabam giving out free RDTs along with a coupon for a free Ferrari to every player are several orders of magnitude higher.

HungaryHippo · February 6

Thecurler said:
OP has a point imo.

This is something I just posted in another thread…

Based off the comments I’m seeing in line chats, people are growing increasingly frustrated with the current direction of the game…

Game becoming flooded with annoying defenders - linked to many of them needing specific counters and the eternal chase for them.
Massive chip and unavoidable damage becoming a thing again.
Annoying and unenjoyable nodes, rather than fun and challenging.
Rewards and general economy feeling outdated in much of the game.

Many of us have invested a lot of time and money in this game, also been here for the ups and downs.
This forum allows us the opportunity to provide some feedback.
On rare occasions, Kabam act upon that feedback.

You missed one. Top players raging on stream about AI (including Kabam devs).

DNA3000 · February 6

Thecurler said:
Based off the comments I’m seeing in line chats, people are growing increasingly frustrated with the current direction of the game…

There has never been a time in the past where someone wasn't saying those exact words.

Someone is always growing increasingly frustrated with the current direction of the game. Someone is also always saying and this time it is different.

And it is also always the exact same complaints: game getting too difficult, game getting too grindy, game rewards too low (sorry, outdated), too many bugs, not enough fun.

None of these are actionable complaints. Difficulty is subjective, and for everyone player that thinks the game is too difficult there are other players who think it is too easy. I'm not going to bother addressing game reward balance here (unless someone forces me to, in which case blame them). And while yes, there are a lot of annoying bugs in the game, anyone who thinks the game team isn't trying to fix them shouldn't bother complaining about it, because if the devs don't care about annoying bugs, they won't care about annoying complaints about annoying bugs either. They aren't going to suddenly read a forum post and say "you know what, maybe we should actually try to fix the bugs in the game." If you think the devs aren't there yet, they never will be.

This game is not fun to play anymore

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