What ever happen to Masteries 2.0 ??

ContestOfNoobs

That 2022 roadmap huh

We are now in 2024… only thing we got was 1 extra point in mastery point

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Nightheart

smdam38

They’re totally gonna answer.

PT_99

Forgotten

DrZola

While I would love loadouts, I cannot even begin to fathom the chaos Masteries 2.0 would wreak on the current game. Be careful what you wish for…

Dr. Zola

XXGhost_RiderXX

*Disclaimer the below (1) isn't true in anyway and is meant to be a joke* (I don't wanna be hit by the ban hammer)

(1) Erm... Kabam fired the guy who came up with masteries 2.0 immediately. His ideas were too pro-player and didn't align with the overall vision of milking the whales (kinda like the meme).

(2) But in all realness, what I've heard at least is that the code base is so complex that there's many unknown interactions with masteries. Rather than introducing new masteries that could potentially mess up the game entirely, the idea has been sidelined.

Now, as for mastery loadouts, idk tbh... they really should have those now especially since we got them in bgs. Alternatively they could also just remove mastery costs entirely (aside from the cost of initially unlocking said mastery/ies)

captain_rogers

*Disclaimer the below (1) isn't true in anyway and is meant to be a joke* (I don't wanna be hit by the ban hammer)

(1) Erm... Kabam fired the guy who came up with masteries 2.0 immediately. His ideas were too pro-player and didn't align with the overall vision of milking the whales (kinda like the meme).

(2) But in all realness, what I've heard at least is that the code base is so complex that there's many unknown interactions with masteries. Rather than introducing new masteries that could potentially mess up the game entirely, the idea has been sidelined.

Now, as for mastery loadouts, idk tbh... they really should have those now especially since we got them in bgs. Alternatively they could also just remove mastery costs entirely (aside from the cost of initially unlocking said mastery/ies)

Tldr

Deathsworker

Probably realized it was too hard to recode masteries and gave up on it or introduce another set of over 9000+ bugs into the game.

EdisonLaw

They probably forgot about this

Aomine_Daiki10

New masteries might bring new bugs just remove the costs. Paying for unlocked masteries at this stage of the game is just not it, kabaam has removed the costs before when Bgs was launched just make it permanent this time.

Havanaknight

This is *obviously* the game changing announcement coming in March.

Rayven5220

They got list in Kangs timeloop. 😅

Chobbly

This is *obviously* the game changing announcement coming in March.

That'd be nice. I'm wondering if it was the big change to potions they talked about a while back.

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Greekhit

While I would love loadouts, I cannot even begin to fathom the chaos Masteries 2.0 would wreak on the current game. Be careful what you wish for…

Dr. Zola

Mastery loadouts are already in the game.
BGs decks are using them.
The tech is already there.
Not expanding them to other game modes after so long they are at BGs, is disappointing at least 🙁

Crcrcrc

Speaking of which where did the wish crystals go

xLunatiXx

Maybe it will all be in the coming 2024 roadmap. Which maybe means it will also appear in the 2026 roadmap. Exciting times

Pikolu

Maybe it will all be in the coming 2024 roadmap. Which maybe means it will also appear in the 2026 roadmap. Exciting times

I'm just going to say, there's good reason why we haven't had a dev diary roadmap in a long time. That reason is because the dev diary roadmap is things kabam is thinking of doing and a potential timeline for that thing. However, the community doesn't see these things as ideas, but instead they see it as concrete plan that should be followed and not be deviated from. Plans, goals, and timelines can all change.

We've seen the game pivot from wish crystals (which still could come) to nexus crystals/themed crystals. Relics took an extra year to come out, and since been reevaluated before more are released. From what I've seen, Mastery 2.0 isn't easy to implement. I won't get into details, but I do know it isn't forgotten.

Folkvangr

This is *obviously* the game changing announcement coming in March.

Is there a game changing announcement coming?

Wozzle007

Maybe it will all be in the coming 2024 roadmap. Which maybe means it will also appear in the 2026 roadmap. Exciting times
I'm just going to say, there's good reason why we haven't had a dev diary roadmap in a long time. That reason is because the dev diary roadmap is things kabam is thinking of doing and a potential timeline for that thing. However, the community doesn't see these things as ideas, but instead they see it as concrete plan that should be followed and not be deviated from. Plans, goals, and timelines can all change.

We've seen the game pivot from wish crystals (which still could come) to nexus crystals/themed crystals. Relics took an extra year to come out, and since been reevaluated before more are released. From what I've seen, Mastery 2.0 isn't easy to implement. I won't get into details, but I do know it isn't forgotten.

I don’t think the community minds when the plan deviates. The problem is, we are never communicated when there is a deviation. When the expected time line passes and we ask for an update, we typically ignored and when there is an eventual response it’s “we don’t provide updates unless there is information to share”.
That response is fine, but when something becomes 6 months past its expected time in the game, 12 months, 2 years, no one believes there is no information available. Just provide an update, it will be delivered soon (and provide a fairly concrete but flexible timeline), it’s still planned but a way off (less concrete but flexible time line), we still want it in the game but due to development difficulties it’s moved way down the pecking order (provide vague timeline) or there’s no longer any plans for it, it’s dead.

We typically get no update at all. So we don’t mind the road maps changing. As a whole we love the road maps and seeing what plans there are for the game. But alongside any annual road maps, if Kabam provided an update on the previous years road map and if there is any deviations from plans that we still expecting to be delivered. If we had that I think the majority would be fine. There would still be a few riding the “KABAM YOU SAID WE’D GET X, YOU LIED TO US!!!” But I think they’d get shut down by the community. We just need better communication on these things.

BringPopcorn

Being worked, it will be released along with Bases update

Drago_von_Drago

Yeah, the blaming the community for something that’s really a communication issue is frustrating.

If they would be clear that some items are just ideas, some items are actively being worked on with no timeline yet, and some have a tentative timeline that may change and they gave us updates on all 3 categories twice a year I think we’d all be happy. Some folks would be upset if ideas don’t pan out but if they gave some context for why (shift in game direction, too difficult to implement, impossible to work into current structure, etc.) that would go a long way.

That masteries 2.0 communication above has pretty concrete language this it is coming in 2022. I don’t remember ever getting official communication about whether it was delayed or scrapped or where it stands and threads on the topic never get a response. That’s a communication issue.

Cure2024

Speaking of which where did the wish crystals go

That's called Selector now that we get here and there.

Cure2024

Maybe it will all be in the coming 2024 roadmap. Which maybe means it will also appear in the 2026 roadmap. Exciting times
From what I've seen, Mastery 2.0 isn't easy to implement. I won't get into details, but I do know it isn't forgotten.

Mastery loadouts in BGs proves that you are wrong. It is not difficult to implement as it is already in game.

DUHveed

Maybe it will all be in the coming 2024 roadmap. Which maybe means it will also appear in the 2026 roadmap. Exciting times
From what I've seen, Mastery 2.0 isn't easy to implement. I won't get into details, but I do know it isn't forgotten.
Mastery loadouts in BGs proves that you are wrong. It is not difficult to implement as it is already in game.

Take this with a grain of salt because I am not a game developer and have zero experience as a dev but just because they have it in one game mode doesn’t mean that it would be easy to expand it to other modes. Look at how many times they change one thing and it breaks something completely different. My speculation is they may have tried but haven’t figured out a way to make it not break the game

Pikolu

Maybe it will all be in the coming 2024 roadmap. Which maybe means it will also appear in the 2026 roadmap. Exciting times
From what I've seen, Mastery 2.0 isn't easy to implement. I won't get into details, but I do know it isn't forgotten.
Mastery loadouts in BGs proves that you are wrong. It is not difficult to implement as it is already in game.

Mastery loadouts in BGs are in their own environment that had a disconnect from the rest of the game. Many people originally went in there with no masteries and wondered why their parries weren't working at all. If it was that easy to get loadouts in the rest of the game, we already would have them.

Cure2024

Maybe it will all be in the coming 2024 roadmap. Which maybe means it will also appear in the 2026 roadmap. Exciting times
From what I've seen, Mastery 2.0 isn't easy to implement. I won't get into details, but I do know it isn't forgotten.
Mastery loadouts in BGs proves that you are wrong. It is not difficult to implement as it is already in game.
Mastery loadouts in BGs are in their own environment that had a disconnect from the rest of the game. Many people originally went in there with no masteries and wondered why their parries weren't working at all. If it was that easy to get loadouts in the rest of the game, we already would have them.

you telling me each game mode is running in different environment and mastery load out can be implemented and work in one and not in others ?

let me say one thing that alot of people love saying here: SKILL ISSUES

Vegeta9001

Loadouts are the only thing that should already be apart of the game. New masteries would be cool but with the stuff they add that doesn't function correctly or is unbalanced I'd just rather be able to have loadouts for war defence, suicides and non suicides. 2 loadouts, maybe 3, would be perfect.