Probably a dumb question, but are all the usable raid Champs actually viable?

Dirty_Dozz · February 20

Title. I'd assume they are, since why have "trap Champs" that would make it harder. But I want to be sure before I bring a Champ that isn't meta (was thinking of Venompool)

BigBlueOx · February 20

They aren’t all that viable. It’s one of the painpoints they haven’t addressed

xLunatiXx · February 20

You would assume they'd remove the DoT champs after removing DoT to scale with boosted damage in the beta....

Suros_moon · February 20

No need to address this… after all Raids are optional!

/s

SlayerOfGods · February 20

DOT focused champs like Kushala are absolutely not viable and it's a massive bummer. I hope Kabam does something about it soon.

Ashacekar · February 20

Energy based attackers aren't viable for Ultron

AcidBurn404 · February 20

Ibom is viable for everything

PT_99 · February 20

Why DOT damage doesn't increase as same as normal damage increases?

xLunatiXx · February 20

PT_99 said:
Why DOT damage doesn't increase as same as normal damage increases?

Cause it was overpowered during the beta apparently.
Now those champs are kinda useless. Champ pool need to be reworked

Squirrelguy · February 20

I mean, there is a difference between "viable" and "best". The nodes don't have perfect parity across the champion pools, and often, pools like this have a range of champions to allow the totality of summoners to have more options to play with. If someone only has OG Storm as a 7* R1, but Kushala at 7* R3 and not really any other good options, then the "less viable" Kushala will still be totally fine to take in and still likely a much better choice than Storm. The benefit of the 12% limit is that "less viable champs" can often still hit that with competent gameplay and a little luck on the bug/AI side of things. "Less viable" champs can still be the best champs for a specific summoner, so I don't think they should only allow the optimal champs in the mode.

TBH, even a Ronan would probably slap with the ridiculous amounts of attack increase you can get from optimal teamwork and gameplay.

mmartin5817 · February 21

First time playing raids and I wish I had chosen hulkling instead of my r3 venom. Venom does ok but he can’t utilitize the buff as easily because it requires you to punish their heavy or specials and he just doesn’t have much range on his heavy to punish them effectively. I assume silver surfer and anyone else with a small range heavy suffers too. It’s even worse when these defenders have beams as their specials so you can’t even get close. For maestro, to complete the missions I just backed up to the wall blocked his combo then dexed both heavy punches and all his sp1 beams just to get my opening to punish his heavy. Hulkling and other champs have better range on their heavy so you can punish it anywhere in the arena not just against the wall. Having to play venom like quake is a little ridiculous especially once the defender gets pierces.

Pinkerton · February 21

FYI, you don't have to punish Maestro's heavy or special with your own heavy. You simply need to counter-attack as soon as the animation of his heavy or his special is complete. You can use a light or medium attack to do so.

Squirrelguy · February 21

mmartin5817 said:
First time playing raids and I wish I had chosen hulkling instead of my r3 venom. Venom does ok but he can’t utilitize the buff as easily because it requires you to punish their heavy or specials and he just doesn’t have much range on his heavy to punish them effectively. I assume silver surfer and anyone else with a small range heavy suffers too. It’s even worse when these defenders have beams as their specials so you can’t even get close. For maestro, to complete the missions I just backed up to the wall blocked his combo then dexed both heavy punches and all his sp1 beams just to get my opening to punish his heavy. Hulkling and other champs have better range on their heavy so you can punish it anywhere in the arena not just against the wall. Having to play venom like quake is a little ridiculous especially once the defender gets pierces.

Yeah, as Pink said, you only have to retaliate with a strike after their heavy or special attack, not with the attacker's special or heavy attack.

Vegeta9001 · February 21

xLunatiXx said:

PT_99 said:
Why DOT damage doesn't increase as same as normal damage increases?
Cause it was overpowered during the beta apparently.
Now those champs are kinda useless. Champ pool need to be reworked

At least my black panther still shreds, that's all I care about, 12% per run for me, a sp2 intercept does 5%

Probably a dumb question, but are all the usable raid Champs actually viable?

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