The nebula fight is still annoying, what sets the two apart is the fact that the special objective champs required this time actually handled the fight well, unlike the bs robot one.
Plus, nebula on her base is not even close to being as difficult as abs. Here, once you bring the right champ to counter the node, you only have to deal with a beefy nebula. In the last one, you bring a counter for the node and still have to deal with a beefy abs man.
It’s a perfect fight. It’s not a cakewalk if you’re using specifically objective champs and it’s a test of patience and paying attention to the root/her shock phases
The difference between the two is that Nebula, at her base kit, is not a difficult defender. Abs Man, at his base kit, is still a very tough defender.
As illustration:
1) The root node here is comparable to Brute Force, in that both stop you from being passive for long 2) Galvanize is comparable to the unstoppable node because both force you to be very careful about your openings 3) the autoblock and cold turkey nodes are comparable to the DOT immunity since both limit your ability to do damage and can result in a punishing interaction 4) Even Punishment and the armor break on parry nodes are both designed to make you be very careful and deliberate about how and when you decide to stun the defender.
I skipped a couple because this is already getting too long, but you get the idea. It wasn’t necessarily the nodes that made Abs Man so much harder, it was that he is, at his base, an extremely potent defender. You could 100% swap the nodes between these two fights, and Abs Man would still be the harder of the two.
Speaking of the root node, I was 8 minutes into my Scorpion solo, and Nebula was at 5%, and I got rooted. I was clenched up (not even Ant-Man was getting in there) and pulled off some of the most insane ultra-instinct dexes in my entire time playing this game.
Dont want to sound like a jerk but.. did anyone else feel it was a little too easy for WoW?
If you are now going to complain that WoW was too easy, then I’ve lost all respect. No, that’s not what happened here. It’s that WoW Abs Man was so damn difficult that no future WoW fight will even compare. The fight was fine as is.
The difference between the two is that Nebula, at her base kit, is not a difficult defender. Abs Man, at his base kit, is still a very tough defender.
As illustration:
1) The root node here is comparable to Brute Force, in that both stop you from being passive for long 2) Galvanize is comparable to the unstoppable node because both force you to be very careful about your openings 3) the autoblock and cold turkey nodes are comparable to the DOT immunity since both limit your ability to do damage and can result in a punishing interaction 4) Even Punishment and the armor break on parry nodes are both designed to make you be very careful and deliberate about how and when you decide to stun the defender.
I skipped a couple because this is already getting too long, but you get the idea. It wasn’t necessarily the nodes that made Abs Man so much harder, it was that he is, at his base, an extremely potent defender. You could 100% swap the nodes between these two fights, and Abs Man would still be the harder of the two.
Speaking of the root node, I was 8 minutes into my Scorpion solo, and Nebula was at 5%, and I got rooted. I was clenched up (not even Ant-Man was getting in there) and pulled off some of the most insane ultra-instinct dexes in my entire time playing this game.
He really said "clenched up" 💀
Why are you in jail 😭
A statement of mine got misinterpreted by kabam and I was thrown in jail
Try playing on my iPad and saying it’s too easy, they need to fix this game and ai already.
I'm on the same boat. I was hopeful after seeing the positive comments but I was quickly brought down to earth. Missing parries, dashes that are too fast / skip frames, Nebula coming out of the stun when the icon is still up, etc. There's definitely an added level of difficulty for some of us. I wish Kabam addressed performance issues or fixed the damn controls on the iPhone 15.
I'm happy for all the people on this forum that got solos, but the reality is that 2 mistakes can still get you killed in this fight.
I was able to do it, but it cost me plenty of revives. (I'm not an amazing player, but I'm not terrible either.) My primary mistake was dashing back with improper timing during her unblockable phase, and having nebula dash in and catch me with a 5 hit combo - which she did pretty reliably whenever i gave her that opening.
I didn't keep track, but i think i spent 4 to 5 revives with 6r4 Angela, and then maybe 6 more revives with 6r4 Scorp (since he doesn't have an evade counter).
It was definitely more forgiving than abs man. But it was still plenty tough.
@jdschw I'm on the same boat. I spend 4 revives on each of the two objectives I did, with Gambit and shang chi. The fight is easy to mess up, and is a perfect difficult but doable fight, unlike abs man.
AbsMan was way way too overtuned especially with the objectives. Nebula, regardless of the disagrees that I'll get is a tad too easy, I could've done the objective with a 5* Shang chi or Heimdall. Maybe even lower. But certainly better to be a bit too easy than so undoable that only 25 or so players can do it with a solo with robots.
The difference between the two is that Nebula, at her base kit, is not a difficult defender. Abs Man, at his base kit, is still a very tough defender.
As illustration:
1) The root node here is comparable to Brute Force, in that both stop you from being passive for long 2) Galvanize is comparable to the unstoppable node because both force you to be very careful about your openings 3) the autoblock and cold turkey nodes are comparable to the DOT immunity since both limit your ability to do damage and can result in a punishing interaction 4) Even Punishment and the armor break on parry nodes are both designed to make you be very careful and deliberate about how and when you decide to stun the defender.
I skipped a couple because this is already getting too long, but you get the idea. It wasn’t necessarily the nodes that made Abs Man so much harder, it was that he is, at his base, an extremely potent defender. You could 100% swap the nodes between these two fights, and Abs Man would still be the harder of the two.
Speaking of the root node, I was 8 minutes into my Scorpion solo, and Nebula was at 5%, and I got rooted. I was clenched up (not even Ant-Man was getting in there) and pulled off some of the most insane ultra-instinct dexes in my entire time playing this game.
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Enjoyed finally seeing the 200+ incinerates though!
The nebula fight is still annoying, what sets the two apart is the fact that the special objective champs required this time actually handled the fight well, unlike the bs robot one.
Plus, nebula on her base is not even close to being as difficult as abs. Here, once you bring the right champ to counter the node, you only have to deal with a beefy nebula. In the last one, you bring a counter for the node and still have to deal with a beefy abs man.
Had the god and metal tag and she showed. She isn’t an objective champion but she murders
Was just giving my thoughts on the fight. You don't have to agree.
Missing parries, dashes that are too fast / skip frames, Nebula coming out of the stun when the icon is still up, etc.
There's definitely an added level of difficulty for some of us.
I wish Kabam addressed performance issues or fixed the damn controls on the iPhone 15.
I'm happy for all the people on this forum that got solos, but the reality is that 2 mistakes can still get you killed in this fight.
I was able to do it, but it cost me plenty of revives. (I'm not an amazing player, but I'm not terrible either.) My primary mistake was dashing back with improper timing during her unblockable phase, and having nebula dash in and catch me with a 5 hit combo - which she did pretty reliably whenever i gave her that opening.
I didn't keep track, but i think i spent 4 to 5 revives with 6r4 Angela, and then maybe 6 more revives with 6r4 Scorp (since he doesn't have an evade counter).
It was definitely more forgiving than abs man. But it was still plenty tough.
The fight is easy to mess up, and is a perfect difficult but doable fight, unlike abs man.