Why can't the BG model be fairer?

Ericson23Ericson23 Member Posts: 117 ★★
in General Discussion
Since the introduction of this BG mode, I have been very curious, why does the competitive mode not have a more fair environment.

Sure, this game needs some players who pay to win, but they already have an advantage in AW and AQ. The BG model is a competitive model, why can't it have fairer conditions?

For example, limit the heroes to the same level, such as 6R4, of course, you have not upgraded to, still need to upgrade. Wouldn't that be fairer?

Now the competitive environment of BG is that as soon as the opponent is overwhelmed by the level, there will be fear. As a result, fewer and fewer FTP players are playing this mode
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  • laserjohn26laserjohn26 Member Posts: 1,550 ★★★★★
    You can limit the champs however you see fit. The same people are still going to win.
  • Kasnow1Kasnow1 Member Posts: 80 ★
    Ericson23 said:

    Since the introduction of this BG mode, I have been very curious, why does the competitive mode not have a more fair environment.

    Sure, this game needs some players who pay to win, but they already have an advantage in AW and AQ. The BG model is a competitive model, why can't it have fairer conditions?

    For example, limit the heroes to the same level, such as 6R4, of course, you have not upgraded to, still need to upgrade. Wouldn't that be fairer?

    Now the competitive environment of BG is that as soon as the opponent is overwhelmed by the level, there will be fear. As a result, fewer and fewer FTP players are playing this mode

    Difficult to have a constructive exchange on this place. The privileged will always discredit you. I personally think bg became unpopular because it’s a frustrating and punishing mode. All have to change otherwise it will die.
  • PT_99PT_99 Member Posts: 4,575 ★★★★★
    Kasnow1 said:

    Ericson23 said:

    Since the introduction of this BG mode, I have been very curious, why does the competitive mode not have a more fair environment.

    Sure, this game needs some players who pay to win, but they already have an advantage in AW and AQ. The BG model is a competitive model, why can't it have fairer conditions?

    For example, limit the heroes to the same level, such as 6R4, of course, you have not upgraded to, still need to upgrade. Wouldn't that be fairer?

    Now the competitive environment of BG is that as soon as the opponent is overwhelmed by the level, there will be fear. As a result, fewer and fewer FTP players are playing this mode

    Difficult to have a constructive exchange on this place. The privileged will always discredit you. I personally think bg became unpopular because it’s a frustrating and punishing mode. All have to change otherwise it will die.
    I love my f2p THE Valiant privileges 😍
  • Kasnow1Kasnow1 Member Posts: 80 ★
    I’m a valiant player. I did all contents on this game. But I’m not a sherperd dog. If only 5% of players enjoy a mode it’s a failure. We need all progression levels . ( you can dislike but it’s an évidence) 😆
  • GercasGercas Member Posts: 101 ★★
    After he keeps loosing to rank 4s he will ask to keep champs sig 20
  • DemonzfyreDemonzfyre Member Posts: 22,073 ★★★★★
    Pikolu said:

    PT_99 said:

    Demonzfyre said:

    Kasnow1 said:

    I’m a valiant player. I did all contents on this game. But I’m not a sherperd dog. If only 5% of players enjoy a mode it’s a failure. We need all progression levels . ( you can dislike but it’s an évidence) 😆

    Whats a "sherperd" dog and how does it apply in situation?
    Must be some new slang which makes no sense, again.
    Been moderating the new discord and dealing with all the kids slang there has aged me over 20 years now. Even then, I haven't heard anyone use "sherperd" dog yet.
    I'm assuming it's Shepherd but I have no idea in what context it's supposed to even be used.
  • PT_99PT_99 Member Posts: 4,575 ★★★★★
    Pikolu said:

    PT_99 said:

    Demonzfyre said:

    Kasnow1 said:

    I’m a valiant player. I did all contents on this game. But I’m not a sherperd dog. If only 5% of players enjoy a mode it’s a failure. We need all progression levels . ( you can dislike but it’s an évidence) 😆

    Whats a "sherperd" dog and how does it apply in situation?
    Must be some new slang which makes no sense, again.
    Been moderating the new discord and dealing with all the kids slang there has aged me over 20 years now. Even then, I haven't heard anyone use "sherperd" dog yet.
    No cap 😎, bussing 😋, fr fr 😲, skrrrt 🫨 NO YEET 😞, shboink 🤧
  • klobberintymeklobberintyme Member Posts: 1,597 ★★★★
    Pikolu said:

    PT_99 said:

    Pikolu said:

    PT_99 said:

    Demonzfyre said:

    Kasnow1 said:

    I’m a valiant player. I did all contents on this game. But I’m not a sherperd dog. If only 5% of players enjoy a mode it’s a failure. We need all progression levels . ( you can dislike but it’s an évidence) 😆

    Whats a "sherperd" dog and how does it apply in situation?
    Must be some new slang which makes no sense, again.
    Been moderating the new discord and dealing with all the kids slang there has aged me over 20 years now. Even then, I haven't heard anyone use "sherperd" dog yet.
    No cap 😎, bussing 😋, fr fr 😲, skrrrt 🫨 NO YEET 😞, shboink 🤧
    If that's your most recent slang then you'll feel really old there too.
    Only in Ohio


  • captain_rogerscaptain_rogers Member Posts: 9,666 ★★★★★
    PT_99 said:

    Pikolu said:

    PT_99 said:

    Demonzfyre said:

    Kasnow1 said:

    I’m a valiant player. I did all contents on this game. But I’m not a sherperd dog. If only 5% of players enjoy a mode it’s a failure. We need all progression levels . ( you can dislike but it’s an évidence) 😆

    Whats a "sherperd" dog and how does it apply in situation?
    Must be some new slang which makes no sense, again.
    Been moderating the new discord and dealing with all the kids slang there has aged me over 20 years now. Even then, I haven't heard anyone use "sherperd" dog yet.
    No cap 😎, bussing 😋, fr fr 😲, skrrrt 🫨 NO YEET 😞, shboink 🤧
    Sigma, rizz, ohio, skibidi toilet, bro☠️, who asked?, Chad, 🗿

    This izz the nue trend.
  • AvnishAvnish Member Posts: 457 ★★★
    Another crying baby who is complaining that bg isn't fair. Op wants everyone to play according to the roster what he is suggesting. WTH then what is point if making roster and progression in the game. You are taking about using 6*R4 then some other player will come to the forum and ask why it isn't limited with 5*. What a joke.

    FYI I am FTP and became valient in January 1st week.
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,581 ★★★★★
    People **** on others too much when they have an issue with the level of disparage between Rosters in BGs, and it's the equivalent of telling people to "Git gud.".
    It's a competition. That's redundant. The Rewards are meant to be appropriate to the effort someone puts in. That's also redundant. The issue people are facing is the range of Rosters is too vast to throw everyone in the mix. That's not an unreasonable statement to make. We're all aware of that.
    We don't have to shut down every Thread that people communicate that issue. They're going to keep making that point either way, unless there's some kind of solution. No one on the other side is going to say, "You know, you're right. I don't deserve a fair completion. I should feel lucky to be used as easy prey for your progress.".
    Just saying.
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,581 ★★★★★
    I'm not saying I have all the answers. I'm just saying if you look at the difference in Rosters from Plat and up and the limitations of the competition such as time, Nodes, increased Attack and Health....then there are bound to be people who have an issue with it.
  • Guest120193746239Guest120193746239 Member Posts: 273 ★★
    xLunatiXx said:

    If you agree to cut your rewards by half then ok you can face accounts of your size

    You act like the rewards (solo) are worth it to begin with🤣.
  • BringPopcornBringPopcorn Member Posts: 5,286 ★★★★★
    GroundedWisdom said:

    People **** on others too much when they have an issue with the level of disparage between Rosters in BGs, and it's the equivalent of telling people to "Git gud.".
    It's a competition. That's redundant. The Rewards are meant to be appropriate to the effort someone puts in. That's also redundant. The issue people are facing is the range of Rosters is too vast to throw everyone in the mix. That's not an unreasonable statement to make. We're all aware of that.
    We don't have to shut down every Thread that people communicate that issue. They're going to keep making that point either way, unless there's some kind of solution. No one on the other side is going to say, "You know, you're right. I don't deserve a fair completion. I should feel lucky to be used as easy prey for your progress.".
    Just saying.

    The problem starts when people propose changes with parameters that only benefits them.
    Sure OP said why cant roster be capped at R4.. why not R3 will say a TB later... Then will come a Cav saying why not R1...
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,581 ★★★★★
    laserjohn26 said:

    GroundedWisdom said:

    I'm not saying I have all the answers. I'm just saying if you look at the difference in Rosters from Plat and up and the limitations of the competition such as time, Nodes, increased Attack and Health....then there are bound to be people who have an issue with it.

    I agree. To this day, I swear my high school football team would have won the super bowl over the Chiefs in a fair game. The just had a better roster but we were 100% better and only lost because of unfair matchmaking.
    They don't get put in a Superbowl game, then told to suck it up.
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