Why are Defenders parrying in BG’s?

Tairique_turay0 · April 13

It literally makes no sense for defenders to be able to parry in BG’s matches. Why has Kabam seemingly changed the AI to act like an Attacker? They parry, dash-back intercept, parry continued by a special attack… it’s ridiculous. Why did Kabam think this was how the AI should work from now on? Do they really think players would find this fun? No matter how well the attacker is playing, the defender can decide to dash-back intercept at any moment and delete your entire health pool 👌🏽 You need more luck then skill in BG’s now… it feels like we are the defenders. Kabam are doing everything but fixing the AI. No wonder people are getting tired of Battlegrounds.

dannyrotten · April 13

Any time I’m facing another players roster (war, arena, bg) I assume their mastery load is in play. I haven’t noticed a difference in bg, I assumed parry was always active there.

Rayven5220 · April 13

dannyrotten said:
Any time I’m facing another players roster (war, arena, bg) I assume their mastery load is in play. I haven’t noticed a difference in bg, I assumed parry was always active there.

The other players masteries are always in play, so I don't know why this is such a surprise to OP.

Bosley · April 13

Because the AI is trash and KABAM keeps saying "It's working as intended".......

Skydad23 · April 13

Yes others masteries are in play the issue is it’s happening way way more completely changes how you have to play and the fact AI is on steroids now. it makes playing not fun after 6 years I find myself play a fraction of the time. Alliance has fallen apart so many have quit. Sucks but it is what it is

Tairique_turay0 · April 13

First 2 replies are missing the point. Ok masteries is the reason cool…doesn’t mean defenders should be doing what they do. AI has been broken for way too long and Kabam have obviously been hearing about it. Fixing They just can’t make money from fixing the AI so they don’t do it. Some of y’all just reply with anything lmao

Rayven5220 · April 13

Tairique_turay0 said:
First 2 replies are missing the point. Ok masteries is the reason cool…doesn’t mean defenders should be doing what they do. AI has been broken for way too long and Kabam have obviously been hearing about it. Fixing They just can’t make money from fixing the AI so they don’t do it. Some of y’all just reply with anything lmao

So the AI shouldn't parry you? You know that parry is in play, in PVP modes, and that was your response, kabam shouldn't allow it?
Sounds like a skill issue.

PT_99 · April 13

Wait till you get light intercepted 3 times in a row, you won't see it coming but you will also

Tairique_turay0 · April 13

@Rayven5220 Lmao I never said I don’t win fights… I’m just aware of how BS the defender parrying, dash-back intercepting is… why do you think everyone complains about it? lol you’re one of THOSE.

dannyrotten · April 13

Tairique_turay0 said:
First 2 replies are missing the point. Ok masteries is the reason cool…doesn’t mean defenders should be doing what they do. AI has been broken for way too long and Kabam have obviously been hearing about it. Fixing They just can’t make money from fixing the AI so they don’t do it. Some of y’all just reply with anything lmao

I replied because I am a high level player and haven’t noticed a new issue in BG where I’m getting parried more often now. I never dash in on a live opponent. This is what forum conversations are for.

Sounds like you didn’t like my response so you’re butthurt about it. Click dislike and move on. You’re hypocritical to say people just reply with anything.

Rayven5220 · April 13

dannyrotten said:

Tairique_turay0 said:
First 2 replies are missing the point. Ok masteries is the reason cool…doesn’t mean defenders should be doing what they do. AI has been broken for way too long and Kabam have obviously been hearing about it. Fixing They just can’t make money from fixing the AI so they don’t do it. Some of y’all just reply with anything lmao
I replied because I am a high level player and haven’t noticed a new issue in BG where I’m getting parried more often now. I never dash in on a live opponent. This is what forum conversations are for.

Sounds like you didn’t like my response so you’re butthurt about it. Click dislike and move on. You’re hypocritical to say people just reply with anything.

That's exactly why I didn't even bother anymore.
He's whining about something that has been happening for years, because he obviously gets smacked alot.

DrZola · April 13

Double Medium AI parry is now part of the game. I believe it would be decent of the team to comment on that and provide relief for a disadvantageous situation created by the game code.

Dr. Zola

Rayven5220 · April 13

DrZola said:
Double Medium AI parry is now part of the game. I believe it would be decent of the team to comment on that and provide relief for a disadvantageous situation created by the game code.

Dr. Zola

He's complaining about them being able to parry, period.

Not the double medium parry (which needs to be fixed asap) that actually shouldn't happen.

Demonzfyre · April 13

Tairique_turay0 said:
First 2 replies are missing the point. Ok masteries is the reason cool…doesn’t mean defenders should be doing what they do. AI has been broken for way too long and Kabam have obviously been hearing about it. Fixing They just can’t make money from fixing the AI so they don’t do it. Some of y’all just reply with anything lmao

I mean... you make a post "with anything". You're fighting other summoners' rosters. Those include the masteries they've applied to their champions. They can dex, they can parry, they can throw specials, they can take advantage of the assassins mastery, double edge, etc.. Maybe just try getting better at the game.

This isn't an instant of the A.I not working how it should, this is you complaining about how bad you are at the game and needing any excuse that will make your fragile ego feel better.

Git Gud.

Tairique_turay0 · April 13

@dannyrotten lol chill, I wasn’t mainly speaking about you. Your response was respectful and reasonable. I just said you missed the overall point of what I was saying. Everything else I said was to @Rayven5220 calling a well known issue that most of the community have noticed, ‘skill issue’. Just the typical childish response you see in global every once in a while.

Demonzfyre · April 13

Tairique_turay0 said:
@dannyrotten lol chill, I wasn’t mainly speaking about you. Your response was respectful and reasonable. I just said you missed the overall point of what I was saying. Everything else I said was to @Rayven5220 calling a well known issue that most of the community have noticed, ‘skill issue’. Just the typical childish response you see in global every once in a while.

Getting "parried" in BG's isn't a "well known issue". In fact, it's not an issue at all. That is what you're post is about. It's in your title.

Folkvangr · April 13

Tairique_turay0 said:
It literally makes no sense for defenders to be able to parry in BG’s matches. Why has Kabam seemingly changed the AI to act like an Attacker? They parry, dash-back intercept, parry continued by a special attack… it’s ridiculous. Why did Kabam think this was how the AI should work from now on? Do they really think players would find this fun? No matter how well the attacker is playing, the defender can decide to dash-back intercept at any moment and delete your entire health pool 👌🏽 You need more luck then skill in BG’s now… it feels like we are the defenders. Kabam are doing everything but fixing the AI. No wonder people are getting tired of Battlegrounds.

My favorite is when they just stand there blocking and light intercept if you dash in

Tairique_turay0 · April 13

@Demonzfyre lmao why did you skip to that conclusion without any context for it? 💀 Just because other players use masteries when they are PLAYING the game and CONTROLLING their champs… doesn’t mean their defenders should be doing the same… they’re two very different situations. The obstacles a player faces during a fight used to be only in the defenders kit & the nodes the defender is used in, which was great and understandable. Now defenders behave & have access to perks that the attackers have (and that only make sense for the attacker to have), as well as the nodes and the obstacles built into their base kit. I’m a F2P Valiant since first week of Necro too but just because i’m good at the game, it doesn’t mean that I don’t also see the flaws in it that make the game extremely less fun to play. The higher level a player is, the more of a chance a player like you exists that think there’s no flaws in a game because you’re good at it. Childish logic. Grow up mate 🤦🏽‍♂️🤘🏽

Tairique_turay0 · April 13

@Folkvangr yeah there’s not much you can do about it. You dint want to wait for the defender to dash at you instead of you dashing at them because you don’t want to take block damage… you don’t want them just standing there being idle because it wastes precious time that can cost you the match… you don’t wanna dash because 50% chance that they’ll intercept or dash-back intercept… It’s just one of the annoying things I guess.

EdisonLaw · April 13

It’s generally about the timing and the speed of the defender’s attacks. Champs with double hit mediums are more likely

JollyHawk · April 13

Tairique_turay0 said:
@Demonzfyre lmao why did you skip to that conclusion without any context for it? 💀 Just because other players use masteries when they are PLAYING the game and CONTROLLING their champs… doesn’t mean their defenders should be doing the same… they’re two very different situations. The obstacles a player faces during a fight used to be only in the defenders kit & the nodes the defender is used in, which was great and understandable. Now defenders behave & have access to perks that the attackers have (and that only make sense for the attacker to have), as well as the nodes and the obstacles built into their base kit. I’m a F2P Valiant since first week of Necro too but just because i’m good at the game, it doesn’t mean that I don’t also see the flaws in it that make the game extremely less fun to play. The higher level a player is, the more of a chance a player like you exists that think there’s no flaws in a game because you’re good at it. Childish logic. Grow up mate 🤦🏽‍♂️🤘🏽

Are you saying that defenders having access to masteries is a new thing?

Demonzfyre · April 13

Tairique_turay0 said:
@Demonzfyre lmao why did you skip to that conclusion without any context for it? 💀 Just because other players use masteries when they are PLAYING the game and CONTROLLING their champs… doesn’t mean their defenders should be doing the same… they’re two very different situations. The obstacles a player faces during a fight used to be only in the defenders kit & the nodes the defender is used in, which was great and understandable. Now defenders behave & have access to perks that the attackers have (and that only make sense for the attacker to have), as well as the nodes and the obstacles built into their base kit. I’m a F2P Valiant since first week of Necro too but just because i’m good at the game, it doesn’t mean that I don’t also see the flaws in it that make the game extremely less fun to play. The higher level a player is, the more of a chance a player like you exists that think there’s no flaws in a game because you’re good at it. Childish logic. Grow up mate 🤦🏽‍♂️🤘🏽

You're Valiant and you aren't aware of how this simple rule of the game exist? You've never played in a single war, not one round of arena and this is your first time playing in BGs?

I highly doubt you're good at the game. I have a feeling you bought your account and are just finding how the game works.

DrZola · April 14

Rayven5220 said:

DrZola said:
Double Medium AI parry is now part of the game. I believe it would be decent of the team to comment on that and provide relief for a disadvantageous situation created by the game code.

Dr. Zola
He's complaining about them being able to parry, period.

Not the double medium parry (which needs to be fixed asap) that actually shouldn't happen.

Aha—it’s funny really. I see “AI parry” and assume it’s the double medium issue that gets brought up all the time here.

Easy to forget that some folks are still figuring the game out.

Dr. Zola

Tairique_turay0 · April 14

@Demonzfyre 🤣 everything you just assumed about me is wrong, how can take you seriously. Skipping to conclusions once again. You still fail to understand the point of my post. Read it 8 more times and you might understand it 😴 just because the players I am facing have the parry mastery active (like everyone does), doesn’t mean the defenders should have it too. The devs control every and anything to do with the game. They can make remove the defenders ability to parry just for that game mode… defenders didn’t used to parry and they worked fair and reasonably. Shouldn’t rely on luck more, or as much as skill in any game mode. You probably won’t understand this either but give it a try.

Rayven5220 · April 14

Tairique_turay0 said:
@Demonzfyre 🤣 everything you just assumed about me is wrong, how can take you seriously. Skipping to conclusions once again. You still fail to understand the point of my post. Read it 8 more times and you might understand it 😴 just because the players I am facing have the parry mastery active (like everyone does), doesn’t mean the defenders should have it too. The devs control every and anything to do with the game. They can make remove the defenders ability to parry just for that game mode… defenders didn’t used to parry and they worked fair and reasonably. Shouldn’t rely on luck more, or as much as skill in any game mode. You probably won’t understand this either but give it a try.

Just tell us you bought your account and don't know wtf you're talking about.
You clearly have no idea about how the game has ALWAYS worked.

xLunatiXx · April 14

Wait till bro finds out about AW

Demonzfyre · April 14

Tairique_turay0 said:
@Demonzfyre 🤣 everything you just assumed about me is wrong, how can take you seriously. Skipping to conclusions once again. You still fail to understand the point of my post. Read it 8 more times and you might understand it 😴 just because the players I am facing have the parry mastery active (like everyone does), doesn’t mean the defenders should have it too. The devs control every and anything to do with the game. They can make remove the defenders ability to parry just for that game mode… defenders didn’t used to parry and they worked fair and reasonably. Shouldn’t rely on luck more, or as much as skill in any game mode. You probably won’t understand this either but give it a try.

Git gud

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Vegeta9001 · April 14

I can only assume you're trolling, "im an attacker, why is the defender hitting me" and now this thread.

In inclined, as much as it pains me to say, to agree with demonzfyre that you likely bought an account and don't know how the game actually works.

Demonzfyre · April 14

Tairique_turay0 said:
just because the players I am facing have the parry mastery active (like everyone does), doesn’t mean the defenders should have it too.

You're playing a PVP mode. Arena, BGs and AW are all PVP modes. You're playing against live player rosters. All masteries applied to attackers are applied to defenders for that persons account. Your defenders are the same way.

It's been this way since masteries were introduced and arena came about. It's literally been this way since the game started.

I understand that since you bought your account and probably haven't done much but some questing that you don't realize that defenders in quests are different that in PvP modes.

You can search all kinds of YouTube videos and see proof of this throughout the history of the game. You claiming that parry shouldn't exist for defenders is different than saying it wasn't ever this way.

I'll get a warning for this but it's quite obvious you've either bought your account, paid a merc to do content for you or have cheated your way to Valiant.

Parry and the other mastery items are part of the challenge for PvP modes. I know it sucks because your skill level is used to the MODs that make defenders just stand there. I do commend you for wanting to play legit though. It will take you awhile to get to the game without MODs.

Tairique_turay0 · April 14

Skipping to a conclusion & assuming that I bought an account because of this post is hilarious 🤣🤣💀 you guys are jokes

Why are Defenders parrying in BG’s?

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