Negasonic, any good or not?

TP33TP33 Member Posts: 1,681 ★★★★★
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Just pulled her from a titan, not the worst pull in the crystal for sure but not what I was looking for (prowler pleaseeeeeeee), wondering how she performs in

- BGs
- General questing
- War
- AQ?
- Any other special cases/uses

I’m doing some of my own “reading” on her but I’m still torn, to R2 her I’d have to finish off SoS which I’m kinda dreading so if she’s not great I can sit back and relax do it at the end of the month instead. (Or I take her up with BG rewards)
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  • Ansh_AAnsh_A Member Posts: 616 ★★★
    I was disappointed to get her too but then i saw a videos of her destroying the skill class. She destroys everything except night thrasher (incinerate immune) and kingpin special 2 (so bait it).

    She is slow though and you need to keep those incinerates up by constantly light attacking or launching specials. Sometimes it feels like it would be better to take sunspot and just nuke the opponent but she is a safe option. Kind of like void back in the day before Kabam released so many op science champs.
  • PikoluPikolu Member, Guardian Posts: 7,794 Guardian
    She's not bad. She's a really good bullseye counter at sig 200 and beats him in about 40-50 seconds at equal ranks. She also can catch people off guard on defense as well. She's really nice for a lot of fights since her attacks are non-contact and all debuffs are passive. Utility wise, pretty good, but really is reliant on the opponent being able to be incinerated for damage.
  • SecondSkrillerSecondSkriller Member Posts: 1,319 ★★★★★
    TP33 said:

    Just pulled her from a titan, not the worst pull in the crystal for sure but not what I was looking for (prowler pleaseeeeeeee), wondering how she performs in

    - BGs
    - General questing
    - War
    - AQ?
    - Any other special cases/uses

    I’m doing some of my own “reading” on her but I’m still torn, to R2 her I’d have to finish off SoS which I’m kinda dreading so if she’s not great I can sit back and relax do it at the end of the month instead. (Or I take her up with BG rewards)

    You want Prowler but he ain’t got any more damage than her lol
  • BendyBendy Member Posts: 6,588 ★★★★★
    TP33 said:

    Just pulled her from a titan, not the worst pull in the crystal for sure but not what I was looking for (prowler pleaseeeeeeee), wondering how she performs in

    - BGs
    - General questing
    - War
    - AQ?
    - Any other special cases/uses

    I’m doing some of my own “reading” on her but I’m still torn, to R2 her I’d have to finish off SoS which I’m kinda dreading so if she’s not great I can sit back and relax do it at the end of the month instead. (Or I take her up with BG rewards)

    I kinda like her for incinerate immunes for questing u can just run a synergy that will give her ruptures instead but will still do everything she does with incinerates so the sp2 will grant 16 sp1 refresh for bgs ive used and shes not the fastest but she is good dual threat that u can place on defense if need too but its really down to u the player if u like her to feel ranking, for me i always just rank if i find them fun enjoyable or a cool double threat.
  • WednesdayLengthWednesdayLength Member Posts: 1,471 ★★★
    EdisonLaw said:

    She’s the Mutant Human Torch, in that she counters most of the skill class. Everything she does is passive (even the parry stun, so she counters Killmonger and other purify champs, all her attacks are non contact, also countering Killmonger, Attuma and Korg, and she has some good incinerate damage. Though I wish her damage is higher, as she usually isn’t the fastest.

    Defensively I find her kinda annoying, her animations are all over the place, plus she has that evade like Bullseye.

    She is nowhere close to being the mutant human torch lmao
  • NightheartNightheart Member Posts: 2,117 ★★★★
    She's OK for skill class but her damage needs more juice
  • Raiden01Raiden01 Member Posts: 91 ★
    Solid champ who counters the skill class completely. A super safe option for AW. Not good in BGs as her damage isn't very high. Not quite useful in questing if you are someone who just wants to sprint through them.
  • WednesdayLengthWednesdayLength Member Posts: 1,471 ★★★
    Raiden01 said:

    Solid champ who counters the skill class completely. A super safe option for AW. Not good in BGs as her damage isn't very high. Not quite useful in questing if you are someone who just wants to sprint through them.

    I think saying she counters the skill class completely is a bit misleading
  • EdisonLawEdisonLaw Member Posts: 7,690 ★★★★★
    WednesdayLength said:

    Raiden01 said:

    Solid champ who counters the skill class completely. A super safe option for AW. Not good in BGs as her damage isn't very high. Not quite useful in questing if you are someone who just wants to sprint through them.

    I think saying she counters the skill class completely is a bit misleading
    The only skill champ she can’t really counter is Night Thrasher because of incinerate immunity
  • J0eySn0wJ0eySn0w Member Posts: 979 ★★★★
    It’s a bit difficult to rate how good she is. I’ve been looking into her and playing her as I recently pulled her myself. Her design seems like something is missing, like they weren’t quite done.
    Her passives and non-contact attack are great. However, she could have use a few additions or improvements to make her a really balanced champion in my opinion.

    She has a really low health pool with no reliable damage mitigation or safety guards compared to other champ with similar health pools. No armor up buffs, resistance, regenerations, taunts, etc. Every 25s you can evade a M or L attack when opponent doesn’t have a special ready, that’s more of a defensive mechanic than offense. An improvement in this areas will help her both offensively and defensively.

    In addition to this, she no immunities.

    Her damage is alright, not bad and not great either. Given that the mutant class needs help to compete with the other classes, it would be nice if she had a little bit more damage. Maybe increasing the incinerate pause duration from her Light attacks might help or the incinerate damage overall.

    Her sp3 seems useless to me. It could have increased the increase max cap by X amount for X number of times to make her viable for longer fights.

    I sent a similar msg on another post but Kabam is reviewing it for approval.
  • BigTuna_2054BigTuna_2054 Member Posts: 131 ★★
    edited July 19
    I believe she is a good champ but her damage is meh. I hope they give her a slight tune up and increase her damage output or potency of her incinerates. Her health pool is not good so her damage output should be better to reflect that.
  • WednesdayLengthWednesdayLength Member Posts: 1,471 ★★★
    EdisonLaw said:

    WednesdayLength said:

    Raiden01 said:

    Solid champ who counters the skill class completely. A super safe option for AW. Not good in BGs as her damage isn't very high. Not quite useful in questing if you are someone who just wants to sprint through them.

    I think saying she counters the skill class completely is a bit misleading
    The only skill champ she can’t really counter is Night Thrasher because of incinerate immunity
    I mean, you're blatantly ignoring nick fury.
  • TrongNovTrongNov Member Posts: 299 ★★★
    Being released as a hard counter to Bullseyes, she still has no means to mitigate the block dmg from his sp1.
  • PolygonPolygon Member Posts: 4,561 ★★★★★
    EdisonLaw said:

    WednesdayLength said:

    Raiden01 said:

    Solid champ who counters the skill class completely. A super safe option for AW. Not good in BGs as her damage isn't very high. Not quite useful in questing if you are someone who just wants to sprint through them.

    I think saying she counters the skill class completely is a bit misleading
    The only skill champ she can’t really counter is Night Thrasher because of incinerate immunity
    Thats not saying much when loads of other champs do her matchups much quicker, especially given that BGs matters more than most content right now .
  • EdisonLawEdisonLaw Member Posts: 7,690 ★★★★★
    Actually she has potential to be the mutant Human Torch, but yes, her damage could be higher.
  • Raiden01Raiden01 Member Posts: 91 ★
    TrongNov said:

    Being released as a hard counter to Bullseyes, she still has no means to mitigate the block dmg from his sp1.

    The only reason you have to tank his sp1 is because you cannot counter his evade or have a passive stun to push him to sp2. With ntw you get both so why even let him throw an sp1.
  • Raiden01Raiden01 Member Posts: 91 ★
    WednesdayLength said:

    EdisonLaw said:

    WednesdayLength said:

    Raiden01 said:

    Solid champ who counters the skill class completely. A super safe option for AW. Not good in BGs as her damage isn't very high. Not quite useful in questing if you are someone who just wants to sprint through them.

    I think saying she counters the skill class completely is a bit misleading
    The only skill champ she can’t really counter is Night Thrasher because of incinerate immunity
    I mean, you're blatantly ignoring nick fury.
    I haven't tried this matchup but I am failing to understand how she cannot counter him.
  • PT_99PT_99 Member Posts: 4,571 ★★★★★
    TrongNov said:

    Being released as a hard counter to Bullseyes, she still has no means to mitigate the block dmg from his sp1.

    If you're using NegaS and Bullseye uses sp1 then why are you even using her?
  • EdisonLawEdisonLaw Member Posts: 7,690 ★★★★★
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VGDnsDa5CM
  • GoterdamRungGoterdamRung Member Posts: 59 ★
    Use her on bullseye and see her real
    Potential.
  • BigTuna_2054BigTuna_2054 Member Posts: 131 ★★
    edited August 1
    So I was supporting Negasonic as good at first, but she just doesn’t deal enough damage. Slow fights in BG’s and the UNFAZED mastery literally makes her a liability when bullseye or other defenders can go unstoppable and wreck you as she evades during her rotation. Her health pool can’t take much block damage and she can’t block unblockable specials. KABAM, I’m only one voice but she’s not doing what she was built to do. She should have a slow passive to counter unfazed mastery (unstoppable) and her incinerate damage needs a ramp up. Mr. Sinister can block unblockable specials from skill class, regen like crazy and inflict insane degen damage. He appears to be the skill destroyer not Negasonic like she was hyped.
  • NONYABIZZNONYABIZZ Member Posts: 637 ★★★
    edited August 1
    BigTuna_2054 said:

    So I was supporting Negasonic as good at first, but she just doesn’t deal enough damage. Slow fights in BG’s and the UNFAZED mastery literally makes her a liability when bullseye or other defenders can go unstoppable and wreck you as she evades during her rotation. Her health pool can’t take much block damage and she can’t block unblockable specials. KABAM, I’m only one voice but she’s not doing what she was built to do. She should have a slow passive to counter unfazed mastery (unstoppable) and her incinerate damage needs a ramp up. Mr. Sinister can block unblockable specials from skill class, regen like crazy and inflict insane degen damage. He appears to be the skill destroyer not Negasonic like she was hyped.

    I've been saying this since the day her deep dive came out, but these CC's keep r3ing her and saying she's okay as is. They never speak for the community and for some reason it seems kabam only listens to them. Negasonics damage IS TERRIBLE. It's too low. It's almost unreal a 6* r5 can barely tick for 1k after the first Sp2 that's is garbage and I just know I KNOW she's not getting a tune up. Since sable is trash they might only give attention to her and ignore negasonic since she's somewhat useable.
  • BigTuna_2054BigTuna_2054 Member Posts: 131 ★★
    I agree with you and hope Kabam makes some adjustment to her but I don’t have much faith it will happen as the CC’s unfortunately think she’s fine as is. Vega puts out great content on his channel and appreciate him, but I have to disagree with him on Negasonic. He was afraid she would be too strong and said he spoke his concerns about her being too strong and was happy with how she was released. My R2 awakened Negasonic can’t even finish a R3 Korg fight and if she does it’s down to last second in the alotted time in BG’s. I’m not dying just can’t finish the fights with her optimal rotation.
  • ThePredator1001ThePredator1001 Member Posts: 869 ★★★★
    Honestly her damage is okay, wouldn’t mind a tune up but she has one of the highest crit rates in the game which is noticeable if you’re looking at more than just the dot numbers. But personally I feel like she’s lacking in the utility department, maybe they were afraid of her having all passives and that it might be too strong but I feel like she needs some real immunities or something. Because a lot of the time the skill defenders I want to use her on are impossible due to nodes.
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