Corpsman wrote: » Sugardaddy1129 wrote: » GroundedWisdom wrote: » You aren't getting an increased chance at Ant-Man. I’ll give you a hand with the math... Basic Pool - 84 champions (when the new crystal arrives), one of which is Ant-Man. Therefore, I have a 1/84, or 1.19%, chance to pull him from a basic, 10k shard 5* crystal. New Featured Pool - 24 champions, one of which is Antman. From this crystal, I have a 1/24, or 4.16%, chance at pulling him from this awful new Featured 5* Crystal. Seems to me that if I want to dupe one of the worst champions in the game for the third time, the featured is the way to go. Dude you should be excited. Kabam said he’s one of the most effective champs in aw.
Sugardaddy1129 wrote: » GroundedWisdom wrote: » You aren't getting an increased chance at Ant-Man. I’ll give you a hand with the math... Basic Pool - 84 champions (when the new crystal arrives), one of which is Ant-Man. Therefore, I have a 1/84, or 1.19%, chance to pull him from a basic, 10k shard 5* crystal. New Featured Pool - 24 champions, one of which is Antman. From this crystal, I have a 1/24, or 4.16%, chance at pulling him from this awful new Featured 5* Crystal. Seems to me that if I want to dupe one of the worst champions in the game for the third time, the featured is the way to go.
GroundedWisdom wrote: » You aren't getting an increased chance at Ant-Man.
tutyimutyi wrote: » I think it makes sence,i am going to save 45k,to open 3 featured and pull 2,or 3 antmans,because of the REAL rng.
GroundedWisdom wrote: » Sugardaddy1129 wrote: » GroundedWisdom wrote: » You aren't getting an increased chance at Ant-Man. I’ll give you a hand with the math... Basic Pool - 84 champions (when the new crystal arrives), one of which is Ant-Man. Therefore, I have a 1/84, or 1.19%, chance to pull him from a basic, 10k shard 5* crystal. New Featured Pool - 24 champions, one of which is Antman. From this crystal, I have a 1/24, or 4.16%, chance at pulling him from this awful new Featured 5* Crystal. Seems to me that if I want to dupe one of the worst champions in the game for the third time, the featured is the way to go. It's not advertised as "Increased Chance At Ant-Man". The probability may be greater, but probability is not concrete when we are dealing with RNG. Actually, your math is correct, but the focus is not right. The current Crystal has a higher Basic probability than anything. That means you currently have a greater chance at a Champ you don't want.
Dr_ARCHer wrote: » beyonder8421 wrote: » Dr_ARCHer wrote: » Wow. Just one night and we have such a long thread. What are the odds of GMC versus the odds of the featured 5* crystals? The Grandmaster Crystal has 3 and 4 stars in it. The Grandmaster featured as well, but seems to have an increased chance for 5 stars compared to the normal one (just my observation). So they cannot really be compared to 5 star crystals. Actually, if you focus only on the featured 5* and the non featured 5*, you can work out the expected number of units needed to get the featured 5* and the non featured 5*. Say you want the featured 5* champ. You can either purchase the featured 5* crystal (@ 15000 shards per crystal) and the non featured GMC (@200 units per crystal), or you purchase the featured GMC (@300 units per crystal) and the non featured 5* crystal (@10000 shards per crystal). If you have 600 units and 30000 shards, you can buy 2 featured 5* crystals and 3 non featured GMCs, or you can buy 3 non featured 5* and 2 featured GMCs. Which one gives you higher odds of getting featured 5* and which one gives you high odds of non featured 5*? BTW, my own data suggested that the odds of pulling a 5* (featured or non featured) from a featured GMC seems higher than a non featured GMC. This is consistent with your observation.
beyonder8421 wrote: » Dr_ARCHer wrote: » Wow. Just one night and we have such a long thread. What are the odds of GMC versus the odds of the featured 5* crystals? The Grandmaster Crystal has 3 and 4 stars in it. The Grandmaster featured as well, but seems to have an increased chance for 5 stars compared to the normal one (just my observation). So they cannot really be compared to 5 star crystals.
Dr_ARCHer wrote: » Wow. Just one night and we have such a long thread. What are the odds of GMC versus the odds of the featured 5* crystals?
DNA3000 wrote: » GroundedWisdom wrote: » Sugardaddy1129 wrote: » GroundedWisdom wrote: » You aren't getting an increased chance at Ant-Man. I’ll give you a hand with the math... Basic Pool - 84 champions (when the new crystal arrives), one of which is Ant-Man. Therefore, I have a 1/84, or 1.19%, chance to pull him from a basic, 10k shard 5* crystal. New Featured Pool - 24 champions, one of which is Antman. From this crystal, I have a 1/24, or 4.16%, chance at pulling him from this awful new Featured 5* Crystal. Seems to me that if I want to dupe one of the worst champions in the game for the third time, the featured is the way to go. It's not advertised as "Increased Chance At Ant-Man". The probability may be greater, but probability is not concrete when we are dealing with RNG. Actually, your math is correct, but the focus is not right. The current Crystal has a higher Basic probability than anything. That means you currently have a greater chance at a Champ you don't want. How is it possible that in this entire thread, this is the most bizarre sequence of words I've read all day.
Dr_ARCHer wrote: » We will not know if we are better off with the new crystals from the old ones until we know what were the odds for the old crystals.
Ganui wrote: » i want to see those odds as for me atm the odds are 0% (over a decent amount of tries) to get any 5* out of the fgmc, nevertheless a featured 5*
Thatweirdguy wrote: » Dr_ARCHer wrote: » We will not know if we are better off with the new crystals from the old ones until we know what were the odds for the old crystals. You'll never get those old odds. I suspect they've revamped the odds now so it is pure RNG. That way they can tell apple that consumers get a 1/84 chance in the basic 5*. The FGMC odd and how they plan to comply with Apple guidelines is what I am curious about. If it is pure RNG what are the odds of pulling a 4* or 5* vs a 3*. If it is true RNG these crystal odds might actually improve vs what we have now.
Dr_ARCHer wrote: » Ganui wrote: » i want to see those odds as for me atm the odds are 0% (over a decent amount of tries) to get any 5* out of the fgmc, nevertheless a featured 5* My own data suggests a rate of 1 out of between 80 to 100 for a 5* pull. I don’t have enough data to conclude on the rate for featured 5* pull. For example, for the Void crystals, I think I opened over 2000 crystals, but only got Sentry once, but got several other 5*. Perhaps this is a blessing, else I will end up with dysentery. 😊
Thatweirdguy wrote: » You'll never get those old odds. I suspect they've revamped the odds now so it is pure RNG. That way they can tell apple that consumers get a 1/84 chance in the basic 5*. The FGMC odd and how they plan to comply with Apple guidelines is what I am curious about. If it is pure RNG what are the odds of pulling a 4* or 5* vs a 3*. If it is true RNG these crystal odds might actually improve vs what we have now.
Mmx1991 wrote: » Kabam can't go more than a few months without screwing players. November/December 2016/January 2017 - here, buy these awakening gems, T4Cs, sig stones Feb 2017 - hi, ho'ws it going? NERF! kthxbye 13.0 - month long double evade bug 14.0 - gold bug, intermittent month long server issues Summer - new 5*s to basic pool! 95% garbage. Good ones in Nov/Dec. 15.0 - say hi to diversity and bye to skill, fun, and rank up material. August - 6*s incoming! challenger rating says hi August-November - enjoy war December - we were wrong. we'll give some of the old war back, but it's still not the same. January - 12.0 treatment to feature crystal. Cyclops EFFECTIVE What other garbage are they going to force feed down our throats this year? Blade nerf? More half baked champs? Complete removal of featured champs except only through Featured GMCs? 6* pool filled with nothing but turds?
GroundedWisdom wrote: » DNA3000 wrote: » GroundedWisdom wrote: » Sugardaddy1129 wrote: » GroundedWisdom wrote: » You aren't getting an increased chance at Ant-Man. I’ll give you a hand with the math... Basic Pool - 84 champions (when the new crystal arrives), one of which is Ant-Man. Therefore, I have a 1/84, or 1.19%, chance to pull him from a basic, 10k shard 5* crystal. New Featured Pool - 24 champions, one of which is Antman. From this crystal, I have a 1/24, or 4.16%, chance at pulling him from this awful new Featured 5* Crystal. Seems to me that if I want to dupe one of the worst champions in the game for the third time, the featured is the way to go. It's not advertised as "Increased Chance At Ant-Man". The probability may be greater, but probability is not concrete when we are dealing with RNG. Actually, your math is correct, but the focus is not right. The current Crystal has a higher Basic probability than anything. That means you currently have a greater chance at a Champ you don't want. How is it possible that in this entire thread, this is the most bizarre sequence of words I've read all day. People are defocusing on one Champ, Ant-Man. Which for all intensive purposes represents an unfavorable pull. As it stands, the estimated probability of pulling a Basic is much higher than the 4% that represents Ant-Man.
DNA3000 wrote: » GroundedWisdom wrote: » DNA3000 wrote: » GroundedWisdom wrote: » Sugardaddy1129 wrote: » GroundedWisdom wrote: » You aren't getting an increased chance at Ant-Man. I’ll give you a hand with the math... Basic Pool - 84 champions (when the new crystal arrives), one of which is Ant-Man. Therefore, I have a 1/84, or 1.19%, chance to pull him from a basic, 10k shard 5* crystal. New Featured Pool - 24 champions, one of which is Antman. From this crystal, I have a 1/24, or 4.16%, chance at pulling him from this awful new Featured 5* Crystal. Seems to me that if I want to dupe one of the worst champions in the game for the third time, the featured is the way to go. It's not advertised as "Increased Chance At Ant-Man". The probability may be greater, but probability is not concrete when we are dealing with RNG. Actually, your math is correct, but the focus is not right. The current Crystal has a higher Basic probability than anything. That means you currently have a greater chance at a Champ you don't want. How is it possible that in this entire thread, this is the most bizarre sequence of words I've read all day. People are defocusing on one Champ, Ant-Man. Which for all intensive purposes represents an unfavorable pull. As it stands, the estimated probability of pulling a Basic is much higher than the 4% that represents Ant-Man. I hate it when people start defocusing on deAnt-Man. Their intensive purposes become unfavorable.
tutyimutyi wrote: » There is just one and only reason behind this,to make it more difficult for the us,to get good heroes for lol,act5 100%,aq,aw and for the uncollected event quest,so we have to spend more,if we want to push.this is my opinion.
GroundedWisdom wrote: » People earn their Shards the same way, with the exception of a few Offers. How they spend them is really not that consequential. I don't believe it's possible that NO ONE will buy it. However, I don't think it makes a difference to them whether you purchase a Basic or a Featured.
GroundedWisdom wrote: » DNA3000 wrote: » GroundedWisdom wrote: » DNA3000 wrote: » GroundedWisdom wrote: » Sugardaddy1129 wrote: » GroundedWisdom wrote: » You aren't getting an increased chance at Ant-Man. I’ll give you a hand with the math... Basic Pool - 84 champions (when the new crystal arrives), one of which is Ant-Man. Therefore, I have a 1/84, or 1.19%, chance to pull him from a basic, 10k shard 5* crystal. New Featured Pool - 24 champions, one of which is Antman. From this crystal, I have a 1/24, or 4.16%, chance at pulling him from this awful new Featured 5* Crystal. Seems to me that if I want to dupe one of the worst champions in the game for the third time, the featured is the way to go. It's not advertised as "Increased Chance At Ant-Man". The probability may be greater, but probability is not concrete when we are dealing with RNG. Actually, your math is correct, but the focus is not right. The current Crystal has a higher Basic probability than anything. That means you currently have a greater chance at a Champ you don't want. How is it possible that in this entire thread, this is the most bizarre sequence of words I've read all day. People are defocusing on one Champ, Ant-Man. Which for all intensive purposes represents an unfavorable pull. As it stands, the estimated probability of pulling a Basic is much higher than the 4% that represents Ant-Man. I hate it when people start defocusing on deAnt-Man. Their intensive purposes become unfavorable. Okay, so that's funny. The comment sounded somewhat like Word Soup. I'll give you that. Lol.
