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What is the reason for RedSkull immunities?

MrTicTac19992008MrTicTac19992008 Member Posts: 608 ★★★
Why is he immune to nullify, fateseal, stagger against champions but not against nodes? Makes no sense.

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  • MrTicTac19992008MrTicTac19992008 Member Posts: 608 ★★★
    That makes no sense, Galan is nullify immune which includes nodes.
  • captain_rogerscaptain_rogers Member Posts: 12,303 ★★★★★

    That makes no sense, Galan is nullify immune which includes nodes.

    Because it's the intention. Adam is nullify immune but not against nodes. Aa is aar immune but not against nodes. They don't want red skull to cheese nodes where nullify is a problem.
  • MrTicTac19992008MrTicTac19992008 Member Posts: 608 ★★★

    That makes no sense, Galan is nullify immune which includes nodes.

    Because it's the intention. Adam is nullify immune but not against nodes. Aa is aar immune but not against nodes. They don't want red skull to cheese nodes where nullify is a problem.
    Any champ can cheese nodes, it's about the fundamentals of the game. RedSkull is a change to that. What is the difference between RedSkull and Thing?
  • MrTicTac19992008MrTicTac19992008 Member Posts: 608 ★★★

    Why is he immune to nullify, fateseal, stagger against champions but not against nodes? Makes no sense.

    Because it's his choice
    Good attempt to derail. 1/10
  • Average_DesiAverage_Desi Member Posts: 1,720 ★★★★

    That makes no sense, Galan is nullify immune which includes nodes.

    Because it's the intention. Adam is nullify immune but not against nodes. Aa is aar immune but not against nodes. They don't want red skull to cheese nodes where nullify is a problem.
    Not true. Aa is immune against nodes too. He's just bugged against certain AAR. That's it.
  • SquidopusSquidopus Member Posts: 910 ★★★★
    I mean captain rogers is pretty much right, Red Skull’s nullify immunity only works against champs because Kabam simply decided that’s how they wanted him to be as some form of arbitrary balance. There’s no rule that his immunities (or any other champion’s) have to be all-encompassing like that. He’s not the first champ to have abilities that only work against champions (that honor goes to the duo of Adam and Moondragon) and he won’t be the last. You’re not getting any other answer than that because it’s the correct answer, even if it’s unsatisfying.
  • MrTicTac19992008MrTicTac19992008 Member Posts: 608 ★★★
    You are completely missing the point, RedSkull is an average champ. Making him immune for those nodes wouldn't break the game. Shuri is better than RedSkull yet she doesn't gain precision buffs but other buffs which would be because of the node. What RedSkull has is a counter for champs but if a path or node has any nullify, he's never gonna be chosen but Shuri would.
  • EdisonLawEdisonLaw Member Posts: 10,075 ★★★★★
    To ensure that he isn’t mystic food
  • MalchaeisMalchaeis Member Posts: 264 ★★
    Isn't he immune because he holds the cosmic cube?
  • captain_rogerscaptain_rogers Member Posts: 12,303 ★★★★★

    That makes no sense, Galan is nullify immune which includes nodes.

    Because it's the intention. Adam is nullify immune but not against nodes. Aa is aar immune but not against nodes. They don't want red skull to cheese nodes where nullify is a problem.
    Not true. Aa is immune against nodes too. He's just bugged against certain AAR. That's it.
    His abilities state opponent abilities cannot manipulate his abilities.

    In any node which applies disorients, try him and your parries will fail.
  • captain_rogerscaptain_rogers Member Posts: 12,303 ★★★★★

    You are completely missing the point, RedSkull is an average champ. Making him immune for those nodes wouldn't break the game. Shuri is better than RedSkull yet she doesn't gain precision buffs but other buffs which would be because of the node. What RedSkull has is a counter for champs but if a path or node has any nullify, he's never gonna be chosen but Shuri would.

    It's not that deep. He is perfectly balanced now. He is perfectly balanced even if he gets nullify immunity from nodes. It's just kabam don't want to give him that ability. Your argument would be right if he's the only champ like this.

    Shuri is better than red skull and shuri is better than red skull in nullify nodes. At the same time shuri don't have power control or armor buff. She can't be used against havok or tech paths where you need armor buff, But red skull can be used. Different champs have different abilities and different usecases

    Red skull and shuri have completely different use cases. Both cannot be compared.
  • Average_DesiAverage_Desi Member Posts: 1,720 ★★★★

    That makes no sense, Galan is nullify immune which includes nodes.

    Because it's the intention. Adam is nullify immune but not against nodes. Aa is aar immune but not against nodes. They don't want red skull to cheese nodes where nullify is a problem.
    Not true. Aa is immune against nodes too. He's just bugged against certain AAR. That's it.
    His abilities state opponent abilities cannot manipulate his abilities.

    In any node which applies disorients, try him and your parries will fail.
    His kit is old. There was no distinction back then b/w champion kits and nodes. Disorient specifically causes problems for Archangel. Even disorients from champions' base kits will fail archangel's parries.


    And if you go try nodes that place concussion on archangel, he is immune to it
  • CaptainaidenCaptainaiden Member Posts: 1,213 ★★★★
    If op thinks this make no sense, then how hawkeye can defeat odin? Make no sense
  • ToniXD_16ToniXD_16 Member Posts: 228

    That makes no sense, Galan is nullify immune which includes nodes.

    Because it's the intention. Adam is nullify immune but not against nodes. Aa is aar immune but not against nodes. They don't want red skull to cheese nodes where nullify is a problem.
    Any champ can cheese nodes, it's about the fundamentals of the game. RedSkull is a change to that. What is the difference between RedSkull and Thing?
    Have you thought about that they wanted him to work like that like some people are just mad for the sake od being mad I swear
  • CROSSHAIRSCROSSHAIRS Member Posts: 611 ★★
    I heard the song "Erika" gives red skull gives red skull immunity so blame that (This is a joke do not take this seriously)
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