Strategy for Jack's Battlegrounds Blitz

Archit_1812Archit_1812 Member Posts: 592 ★★
Greetings, Summoners!


We are 1.5 days into Jack’s Battleground Blitz, and we haven’t crossed the 47 million point mark yet—well below the target pace we need to hit the 1.5 billion points goal. With 26.5 days left, it’s crucial that we realign our strategies and address some community-wide concerns to stay on track.

After reading feedback from players, I’ve outlined a more focused approach to overcoming burnout, resource drain, and matchmaking issues. Here’s a breakdown of how we can turn the tide.



1. Point Accumulation in Jack's Battleground Blitz


Before diving into community concerns, let’s recap how points are earned:

Points System Breakdown

Victory Track:

Elder's Marks: 45 points for a win, 23 points for a loss
Energy: 8 points for a win, 4 points for a loss

Gladiator's Circuit:

Elder's Marks: 90 points for a win, 28 points for a loss
Energy: 16 points for a win, 4 points for a loss



2. Community Challenges & Suggested Solutions


Burnout: One of the most cited concerns is burnout, especially in the context of matchmaking and how repetitive matches against the same weight class of opponents can lead to frustration. Facing off against yourself repeatedly or being at the mercy of unfavorable drafts is disheartening. A critical issue is the lack of enjoyable matches in Gladiator's Circuit. Many players, including higher-ranked ones, often face themselves or tough matchups repeatedly. But this isn't exactly an issue, nor should it be solved. The Gladiator's Circuit is meant to be tough, brutal, and a test of skill. But, burnout is still a major issue. Burnout leads players to take breaks, slowing point generation. Without specific objectives, players may step away until better matchmaking improves the experience, which decreases potential daily points contribution. We can't blame regular GC Summoners. The best we CAN do is ask for extensive participation, and to encourage smaller accounts first. Our solution? Pace yourself. And DO NOT QUIT MATCHES! Note that even if you lose or win, your match STILL contributes the same number of points if it were the other way round.


Resource Management: Focus on balancing your use of Marks. If you're low on Marks, aim to preserve them by playing smart. Consider spacing out your Marks usage. Personally, I use my marks at the times when I am sure that it wouldn't matter if I won or lost, like at the start of a progression level. If you need one game to win to clear another level, you may use Elder's Marks and risk yourself a win. But this is more of a pet peeve. I would also recommend conserving units. In the minor event that your run low on Elder's Marks, save your units to purchase them from the Battleground Store. Using Elder’s Marks yields far more points than using Energy, but players are reluctant to burn through all their Marks in the early stages. Once a player reaches the Gladiator's Circuit, there's little motivation to continue using Marks, especially with less enticing milestone rewards until the 500 million mark. Using Units to purchase more Marks adds another layer of hesitation.


Early Matchmaking Issues: Another key issue involves early matchmaking, where smaller accounts often face significantly stronger ones, discouraging newer or smaller players from participating actively. Discouragement among smaller accounts reduces the potential for them to contribute to the overall point pool. Encouraging smaller accounts to participate more and emphasizing the value of playing Battlegrounds with two-day objectives could help.


Early Matchmaking and Milestone Composition: Props to @DrZola for pointing out an important issue with early matchmaking. Smaller accounts are being paired with significantly stronger ones, which leads to discouraging one-sided matches. Our Solution? Adjust Milestones. If we could push for two-day objectives or even request Kabam to adjust how milestones are structured, it might encourage broader participation, helping to balance out the resource-rich and resource-strapped players. Dr. Zola highlighted that for bigger Battleground players, the rewards don’t get truly interesting until the 500 million mark, with Titan Hero Shards and T6CC becoming the main incentives. The early rewards such as 7* shards, while still valuable, are no longer a major priority. This leads to many high-end players playing less frequently after reaching the early milestones, causing further point delays.





My Calculations (with the help of AI) for Gladiator's Circuit

From past Battleground seasons, it is estimated that around 10-20% of the player base reaches the Gladiator's Circuit by the season's end. Based on general participation in competitive modes like Battlegrounds, out of 1,000,000 active players in a Realm-based event, around 100,000-200,000 might enter the Gladiator's Circuit.

(Author's note: Thanks to IBM WatsonX gpt-4o model for this analysis)
Let's break down the necessary contribution per player based on these numbers:

Assumed Player Base: If 150,000 summoners participate heavily and play 4-6 matches per day:

On average, summoners in Victory Track with Energy would earn around 40-60 points/day. If they used Elder's Marks for optimal matches, they would earn around 200-300 points/day.
In the Gladiator's Circuit, summoners could accumulate 500-1000 points/day by using Elder's Marks and winning a majority of matches.
Contributions: With a base estimate of 150,000 players participating:

If each Gladiator Circuit summoner contributed 500 points per day, that would generate 75 million points/day.
Adding Victory Track summoners who play sporadically, if 100,000 summoners average 50 points/day, that contributes another 5 million points/day.
This sums up to about 80 million points/day, enough to reach 1.5 billion points over 28 days.


I'D LOVE TO HEAR YOUR IDEAS AS WELL. HOW DO YOU THINK THAT WE CAN REACH THE 1.5 BILLION MARK IN THE REALM EVENT?
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Comments

  • PT_99PT_99 Member Posts: 4,568 ★★★★★
    Just keep winning
  • Archit_1812Archit_1812 Member Posts: 592 ★★
    PT_99 said:

    Just keep winning

    See, that's the thing. Even if you lose, it does not hamper the Realm points so long as you don't quit.
  • FrydayFryday Member Posts: 1,139 ★★★★
    Guys and gals,

    I have worked out the magic formula for a stress free BG Realm, does not require big accounts or skills.

    The formula is simple really

    Open Wallet = Elder Marks = Points = Easy rewards

    🤣🤣🤣

    That is why Kabam put so much weight on Elder Mark points, A lost in VT with Elder Mark have more point than a win in GC with energy. This feel very similar to the original BG scoring system, I think KT1 did a video on it before it was change, essentially just lost with Elder Mark and you will be fine.

    We just need to follow Kabam plan and all will be fine 😁👍

    🤣🤣🤣
  • Maat1985Maat1985 Member Posts: 2,401 ★★★★
    there are plenty of elders marks available for free throughout the duration of the event.
    in addition to those from climbing ranks... i think everyone will be ok
  • Asher1_1Asher1_1 Member Posts: 675 ★★★
    GC gives more points but less people will enjoy GC meta . Which gives more points so more pain.🤦

    Previously if I score 300k points - I gety rewards but now I need to wait for almost a month🤷.

    Most points will come from VT wins from more players that's my point as reaching 5000 individual points is a pain in itself when u enter GC u won't reach 5k points so based on GC experience (which is frustrating as u need specific counter and dot champs and many ranked champs are useless)

    If many don't even reach there 5k points then forget about reaching all milestone
  • Asher1_1Asher1_1 Member Posts: 675 ★★★
    Maat1985 said:

    bro... relax man...
    so many players won't even begin playing bgs until a few days or a week into the season.....
    and not many if anoyne is in GC yet.
    once people get to GC points will speed up a lot.... as GC is worth a lot more....

    take a breath!!!!!!

    🤣🤣 Have u played the GC node last time
  • Maat1985Maat1985 Member Posts: 2,401 ★★★★
    Asher1_1 said:

    GC gives more points but less people will enjoy GC meta . Which gives more points so more pain.🤦

    Previously if I score 300k points - I gety rewards but now I need to wait for almost a month🤷.

    Most points will come from VT wins from more players that's my point as reaching 5000 individual points is a pain in itself when u enter GC u won't reach 5k points so based on GC experience (which is frustrating as u need specific counter and dot champs and many ranked champs are useless)

    If many don't even reach there 5k points then forget about reaching all milestone

    so many whales will make up freaking gigantic scores tho.... so there is also that to consider.....
  • IlociaMIlociaM Member Posts: 145
    5k points and sleep trough the month
  • Asher1_1Asher1_1 Member Posts: 675 ★★★
    Maat1985 said:

    Asher1_1 said:

    GC gives more points but less people will enjoy GC meta . Which gives more points so more pain.🤦

    Previously if I score 300k points - I gety rewards but now I need to wait for almost a month🤷.

    Most points will come from VT wins from more players that's my point as reaching 5000 individual points is a pain in itself when u enter GC u won't reach 5k points so based on GC experience (which is frustrating as u need specific counter and dot champs and many ranked champs are useless)

    If many don't even reach there 5k points then forget about reaching all milestone

    so many whales will make up freaking gigantic scores tho.... so there is also that to consider.....
    many have scored 50k points in crystal cleaning but are we even close to the last milestone ?? we barely crossed 500mil which is just half. same thing will happen the Titan crystal in the milestone we will barely make it
  • Maat1985Maat1985 Member Posts: 2,401 ★★★★
    Asher1_1 said:

    Maat1985 said:

    Asher1_1 said:

    GC gives more points but less people will enjoy GC meta . Which gives more points so more pain.🤦

    Previously if I score 300k points - I gety rewards but now I need to wait for almost a month🤷.

    Most points will come from VT wins from more players that's my point as reaching 5000 individual points is a pain in itself when u enter GC u won't reach 5k points so based on GC experience (which is frustrating as u need specific counter and dot champs and many ranked champs are useless)

    If many don't even reach there 5k points then forget about reaching all milestone

    so many whales will make up freaking gigantic scores tho.... so there is also that to consider.....
    many have scored 50k points in crystal cleaning but are we even close to the last milestone ?? we barely crossed 500mil which is just half. same thing will happen the Titan crystal in the milestone we will barely make it
    totally different thing tho.
    there is no rewards in crystal cleansing.
    people are holding huge stashes cus they do not want to waste time opening crystals that give them stuff they don't want for rewards they don't want.
  • Maat1985Maat1985 Member Posts: 2,401 ★★★★
    Asher1_1 said:

    Maat1985 said:

    bro... relax man...
    so many players won't even begin playing bgs until a few days or a week into the season.....
    and not many if anoyne is in GC yet.
    once people get to GC points will speed up a lot.... as GC is worth a lot more....

    take a breath!!!!!!

    🤣🤣 Have u played the GC node last time
    many people will still play a lot tho. and we all all know those at the top who get big scores play a hell of a lot and use elders marks all the way
  • dr2wsdr2ws Member Posts: 421 ★★★
    if I’m being honest, I’m just gonna play the game, don’t rage and quit and I think I should be okay lol.
  • Asher1_1Asher1_1 Member Posts: 675 ★★★
    Maat1985 said:

    Asher1_1 said:

    Maat1985 said:

    bro... relax man...
    so many players won't even begin playing bgs until a few days or a week into the season.....
    and not many if anoyne is in GC yet.
    once people get to GC points will speed up a lot.... as GC is worth a lot more....

    take a breath!!!!!!

    🤣🤣 Have u played the GC node last time
    many people will still play a lot tho. and we all all know those at the top who get big scores play a hell of a lot and use elders marks all the way
    I think the calculation is like we need 50mil score everyday 😂. We didn't get that in the first 24hr so we are already behind 🤷
  • BigBlueOxBigBlueOx Member Posts: 2,384 ★★★★★
    edited October 4
    dr2ws said:

    if I’m being honest, I’m just gonna play the game, don’t rage and quit and I think I should be okay lol.

    That’s all we can do. This shoulda been a fun cherry on top to give us all extra rewards. Instead this will probably end up as a commentary on the state of the game.

    Nothing anybody can individually do about it as a player other than simply play like normal and hope for the best. But after the Crystal event you woulda assumed the team woulda learned and underestimated participation to ensure max milestones and then added additional carrots for extra points. This is what made the road to the crypt fun and a community celebration.

    Now we are trending towards let down and community morale is likely going to take a hit. It’s too bad.
  • VaniteliaVanitelia Member Posts: 487 ★★★
    Impossible to predict anything based off the current numbers this early into the season. It's not the weekend yet, people wait to start, and not too many have made it to GC yet. Too many variables right now. We haven't even been able to establish a baseline yet.
  • Hort4Hort4 Member Posts: 507 ★★★
    BigBlueOx said:

    dr2ws said:

    if I’m being honest, I’m just gonna play the game, don’t rage and quit and I think I should be okay lol.

    That’s all we can do. This shoulda been a fun cherry on top to give us all extra rewards. Instead this will probably end up as a commentary on the state of the game.

    Nothing anybody can individually do about it as a player other than simply play like normal and hope for the best. But after the Crystal event you woulda assumed the team woulda learned and underestimated participation to ensure max milestones and then added additional carrots for extra points. This is what made the road to the crypt fun and a community celebration.

    Now we are trending towards let down and community morale is likely going to take a hit. It’s too bad.
    If you consider max milestones as a full titan crystal then that is exactly what they did with this event. Anything above the full titan is the cherry on top. Getting the full titan is pretty safe target to achieve.
  • Graves_3Graves_3 Member Posts: 1,544 ★★★★★
    Hort4 said:

    BigBlueOx said:

    dr2ws said:

    if I’m being honest, I’m just gonna play the game, don’t rage and quit and I think I should be okay lol.

    That’s all we can do. This shoulda been a fun cherry on top to give us all extra rewards. Instead this will probably end up as a commentary on the state of the game.

    Nothing anybody can individually do about it as a player other than simply play like normal and hope for the best. But after the Crystal event you woulda assumed the team woulda learned and underestimated participation to ensure max milestones and then added additional carrots for extra points. This is what made the road to the crypt fun and a community celebration.

    Now we are trending towards let down and community morale is likely going to take a hit. It’s too bad.
    If you consider max milestones as a full titan crystal then that is exactly what they did with this event. Anything above the full titan is the cherry on top. Getting the full titan is pretty safe target to achieve.
    We’ll believe it when we see it. Let’s see first if we get there.
  • BigBlueOxBigBlueOx Member Posts: 2,384 ★★★★★
    Hort4 said:

    BigBlueOx said:

    dr2ws said:

    if I’m being honest, I’m just gonna play the game, don’t rage and quit and I think I should be okay lol.

    That’s all we can do. This shoulda been a fun cherry on top to give us all extra rewards. Instead this will probably end up as a commentary on the state of the game.

    Nothing anybody can individually do about it as a player other than simply play like normal and hope for the best. But after the Crystal event you woulda assumed the team woulda learned and underestimated participation to ensure max milestones and then added additional carrots for extra points. This is what made the road to the crypt fun and a community celebration.

    Now we are trending towards let down and community morale is likely going to take a hit. It’s too bad.
    If you consider max milestones as a full titan crystal then that is exactly what they did with this event. Anything above the full titan is the cherry on top. Getting the full titan is pretty safe target to achieve.
    It’s very bold to assume we’re going to get there.
  • altavistaaltavista Member Posts: 1,458 ★★★★
    edited October 4
    The Necropolis realm event was a success because there was (1) intrinsic high end rewards just for doing it, (2) reasonable goal to obtain, (3) Good rewards for obtaining the highest milestones, and (4) bonus goals added on as the cherry on top. All these factors came together to make it feel like the community was working together, and that Kabam was cheering the community on.

    Jack's BG only has #3, but it is set at the level of what should be "bonus" milestone target. The intrinsic rewards for doing BGs isn't that much different from a standard BG season aside from a Deathless piece. The community isn't working together because players are directly competing against each other for wins, and 'wasting' Elder Marks by losing matches.

    The Crystal Event has none of those things.
  • tmnt45tmnt45 Member Posts: 148 ★★
    Farm
  • Archit_1812Archit_1812 Member Posts: 592 ★★
    Hort4 said:

    BigBlueOx said:

    dr2ws said:

    if I’m being honest, I’m just gonna play the game, don’t rage and quit and I think I should be okay lol.

    That’s all we can do. This shoulda been a fun cherry on top to give us all extra rewards. Instead this will probably end up as a commentary on the state of the game.

    Nothing anybody can individually do about it as a player other than simply play like normal and hope for the best. But after the Crystal event you woulda assumed the team woulda learned and underestimated participation to ensure max milestones and then added additional carrots for extra points. This is what made the road to the crypt fun and a community celebration.

    Now we are trending towards let down and community morale is likely going to take a hit. It’s too bad.
    If you consider max milestones as a full titan crystal then that is exactly what they did with this event. Anything above the full titan is the cherry on top. Getting the full titan is pretty safe target to achieve.
    That's a very decent Outlook to it.
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