No Incentive to do Thronebreaker Difficulty for Paragon and especially Valiant, also arena?

RomeroKRomeroK Member Posts: 51



Was just going through the grind of doing EQC and just staring at this screen makes me wonder why I am engaging with this content at all.

The chokehold that is the tier 2 dust basically forces higher end players to put in what is a ridiculous amount of effort (in terms of time not difficulty) for ridiculously low rewards.

While other sections of the game have thrived especially side quests which are a banger right now without the bloat that was there a few months ago and the traders outpost being a massive W move by kabam. Monthly EQ is left in dust.

The bare minimum that should be updated is that valiants should no longer need to do the Thronebreaker Difficulty to access the gauntlet not that it doesn't need a reward buff as a whole.

Also moving onto Arena's I don't exactly know where I read it as I have basically stopped coming onto the forums after the micromanaging started but someone from kabam I believe said something along the lines of us not wanting an arena update if we don't want the grind to be even more ridiculous.

My point is why increase the time of grind at all?

1. Considering the super small pool of the people who actually grind for the featured champ (top 400) will grind for it anyways spending the same amount of money as before.

2. The milestones while a lot more manageable now in terms of time are still worse than before the last update, especially upto 4 start only arena, the takes almost double the time of the featured and basic 6 star arenas combined.

3. It would literally be a QoL update for milestone grinders and even those that don't like arena simply because of the time it takes, considering how kabam has actually been improving a lot in terms of time needed to complete content in other aspects of they game the increased engagement would actually result in much higher increase in revenue than the small reduction it would see from not making it artificially tougher by making it take longer to grind.

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  • RomeroKRomeroK Member Posts: 51

    I am kind of over primordial dust. I have who I want ascended. 7 star progression matters far more.

    When it is about ready to expire, I am digging around my 6 star R4 roster trying to find someone I might rank one day when class cats are more available.

    Oh I absolutely agree, it's till good to get some niche champs up, especially the ones that are top tier, even available as a 7 star but simply refuse to become a part of my roster.
  • PikoluPikolu Member, Guardian Posts: 7,721 Guardian
    edited October 10
    I've only done UC EQ for the story and units for the last 2 months since it is faster to do because I don't have to change teams every quest
  • ChiefGoatChiefGoat Member Posts: 172 ★★
    Easy rewards
  • DeathsworkerDeathsworker Member Posts: 189 ★★
    ChiefGoat said:

    Easy rewards

    Me after reading only the title of a post
  • benshbbenshb Member Posts: 820 ★★★★
    100% agree, was just about to make a post about it the other day.
  • Steam97Steam97 Member Posts: 221 ★★
    EQ is in a terrible state right now, outdated rewards for a really easy and not challenging content, crashed said they're working on something but I really hope it will come soon since it's depressing right now. I play EQ with random teams just to do the EQ completion objective, luckily uncollected and below are so easy I can autofight all of those
  • PistolcuApaPistolcuApa Member Posts: 160
    RomeroK said:




    Was just going through the grind of doing EQC and just staring at this screen makes me wonder why I am engaging with this content at all.

    The chokehold that is the tier 2 dust basically forces higher end players to put in what is a ridiculous amount of effort (in terms of time not difficulty) for ridiculously low rewards.

    While other sections of the game have thrived especially side quests which are a banger right now without the bloat that was there a few months ago and the traders outpost being a massive W move by kabam. Monthly EQ is left in dust.

    The bare minimum that should be updated is that valiants should no longer need to do the Thronebreaker Difficulty to access the gauntlet not that it doesn't need a reward buff as a whole.

    Also moving onto Arena's I don't exactly know where I read it as I have basically stopped coming onto the forums after the micromanaging started but someone from kabam I believe said something along the lines of us not wanting an arena update if we don't want the grind to be even more ridiculous.

    My point is why increase the time of grind at all?

    1. Considering the super small pool of the people who actually grind for the featured champ (top 400) will grind for it anyways spending the same amount of money as before.

    2. The milestones while a lot more manageable now in terms of time are still worse than before the last update, especially upto 4 start only arena, the takes almost double the time of the featured and basic 6 star arenas combined.

    3. It would literally be a QoL update for milestone grinders and even those that don't like arena simply because of the time it takes, considering how kabam has actually been improving a lot in terms of time needed to complete content in other aspects of they game the increased engagement would actually result in much higher increase in revenue than the small reduction it would see from not making it artificially tougher by making it take longer to grind.

    Have not done an event quest in 4 months now. Unless they change them to 3 paths or offer better rewards for the 6 paths, I am not going to bother with them.
  • ShuGokisShuGokis Member Posts: 728 ★★★
    A friend of mine suggested only having to do completion of the quest to get access to paragon gauntlet if you're valiants rather than the full 100%. I doubt they would ever change it to just be open upon content releasing but I could see them maybe changing it to requiring just the first completion of all quests.
  • captain_rogerscaptain_rogers Member Posts: 9,505 ★★★★★
    Introduce regular paragon EQ and valiant guantlet
  • FurrymoosenFurrymoosen Member Posts: 3,819 ★★★★★

    Introduce regular paragon EQ and valiant guantlet

    My vote would be to beef up the Paragon gauntlet rewards and add Valiant EQ.
  • Super_Cretu90Super_Cretu90 Member Posts: 216
    I only explore it for the total of 3.6 million gold, 24xT6 iso of each class, plus aditional 2 million from the Paragon Gauntlet. I take my time and usually explore it a few days before deadline.
  • PT_99PT_99 Member Posts: 4,496 ★★★★★
    I stopped doing TB EQ months ago
    Not worth at all
  • BigPoppaCBONEBigPoppaCBONE Member Posts: 2,402 ★★★★★

    RomeroK said:




    Was just going through the grind of doing EQC and just staring at this screen makes me wonder why I am engaging with this content at all.

    The chokehold that is the tier 2 dust basically forces higher end players to put in what is a ridiculous amount of effort (in terms of time not difficulty) for ridiculously low rewards.

    While other sections of the game have thrived especially side quests which are a banger right now without the bloat that was there a few months ago and the traders outpost being a massive W move by kabam. Monthly EQ is left in dust.

    The bare minimum that should be updated is that valiants should no longer need to do the Thronebreaker Difficulty to access the gauntlet not that it doesn't need a reward buff as a whole.

    Also moving onto Arena's I don't exactly know where I read it as I have basically stopped coming onto the forums after the micromanaging started but someone from kabam I believe said something along the lines of us not wanting an arena update if we don't want the grind to be even more ridiculous.

    My point is why increase the time of grind at all?

    1. Considering the super small pool of the people who actually grind for the featured champ (top 400) will grind for it anyways spending the same amount of money as before.

    2. The milestones while a lot more manageable now in terms of time are still worse than before the last update, especially upto 4 start only arena, the takes almost double the time of the featured and basic 6 star arenas combined.

    3. It would literally be a QoL update for milestone grinders and even those that don't like arena simply because of the time it takes, considering how kabam has actually been improving a lot in terms of time needed to complete content in other aspects of they game the increased engagement would actually result in much higher increase in revenue than the small reduction it would see from not making it artificially tougher by making it take longer to grind.

    Have not done an event quest in 4 months now. Unless they change them to 3 paths or offer better rewards for the 6 paths, I am not going to bother with them.
    3 paths is the way.
  • SirGamesBondSirGamesBond Member Posts: 5,135 ★★★★★
    Pikolu said:

    I've only done UC EQ for the story and units for the last 2 months since it is faster to do because I don't have to change teams every quest

    The best difficulty to explore is the second one from the bottom (proven?).
    I don't know how many units it has, but it has the highest amount of units in it.
    I've been exploring it for some time with the help of autoplay and energy sitting there.
  • startropicsstartropics Member Posts: 877 ★★★★
    arena update NOT happening and that's a good thing.

    we're getting hard currency easier than before and if they update it they'll make it as hard as it was in 2021. we don't want an update.
  • Wozzle007Wozzle007 Member Posts: 1,031 ★★★★★
    This will be the 3rd month in a row I won’t have done Thronebreaker MEQ. I think I did the first act last month and just couldn’t bring myself to carry on. Totally agree the time required to complete compared to rewards just makes it a waste of time for me. The rewards don’t impact my account enough to entice to spend my time doing them. I’d like the dust but meh. I’ll auto fight the lower difficulties but that’s it for MEQ. I really hope Kabam quickly make them more engaging.
  • Joker1976Joker1976 Member Posts: 723 ★★★
    Wozzle007 said:

    This will be the 3rd month in a row I won’t have done Thronebreaker MEQ. I think I did the first act last month and just couldn’t bring myself to carry on. Totally agree the time required to complete compared to rewards just makes it a waste of time for me. The rewards don’t impact my account enough to entice to spend my time doing them. I’d like the dust but meh. I’ll auto fight the lower difficulties but that’s it for MEQ. I really hope Kabam quickly make them more engaging.

    Yeah,..weak outdated rewards,..easy but time consuming,..and who cares about more primordial dust,..hardly worth the time anymore.
  • Sunstar19Sunstar19 Member Posts: 194
    I still explore TB and Cavalier EQ every month. Like how each chapter has nodes to benefit specific classes. Agree rewards could be beefed up given the time and efforts needed. But most likely the difficulty would be increased too. Last thing I want is that monthly quest has too many nodes or big health pools making it a monthly chore. Assuming rewards are intact, reduction to 3 paths per Act may be a good balance
  • phillgreenphillgreen Member Posts: 4,106 ★★★★★
    It's an OK way to waste QE.
  • BabyGrootBabyGroot Member Posts: 174 ★★
    How many hours does it take to reach top milestones for all 3 arenas?
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