When do you think F2P will get a chance at Duping 7* Sinister?

Polygon · October 26

Think it'll be a while since if it happened this year or early next it might not be considered fair to those that whaled? We may be looking at whenever 7* AGs become a thing.

Hopefully its not too long, since his dupe is pretty huge for him especially at a high sig

dr2ws · October 27

His sigs kinda useless in battlegrounds because you’re not fighting multiple defenders with him.

However in Alliance War and Questing it’s nice to have.

As a battlegrounds player and Alliance War Player I am not too bothered about the sig, mainly because of that yummy degen damage.

BeastDad · October 27

dr2ws said:
His sigs kinda useless in battlegrounds because you’re not fighting multiple defenders with him.

However in Alliance War and Questing it’s nice to have.

As a battlegrounds player and Alliance War Player I am not too bothered about the sig, mainly because of that yummy degen damage.

He does gain 3 random buffs to start the fight though with his dupe. But like you said it’s relatively useless.

EdisonLaw · October 27

We might see 7* awakening gems in banquet

Terra · October 27

EdisonLaw said:
We might see 7* awakening gems in banquet

Doubt it.

Asher1_1 · October 27

Polygon said:
Think it'll be a while since if it happened this year or early next it might not be considered fair to those that whaled? We may be looking at whenever 7* AGs become a thing.

Hopefully its not too long, since his dupe is pretty huge for him especially at a high sig

It will be long - they will charge money for that

Asher1_1 · October 27

dr2ws said:
His sigs kinda useless in battlegrounds because you’re not fighting multiple defenders with him.

However in Alliance War and Questing it’s nice to have.

As a battlegrounds player and Alliance War Player I am not too bothered about the sig, mainly because of that yummy degen damage.

Useless ??have u faced a duped R3 yet 😂 2 mystic ,his power gain goes crazy sp1 degen u ,sp2 concussion a pain

spiderknight616 · October 27

Terra said:

EdisonLaw said:
We might see 7* awakening gems in banquet
Doubt it.

I think banquet is the first place we'll be seeing 7* AG and R4 material

Newman0067 · October 27

spiderknight616 said:

Terra said:

EdisonLaw said:
We might see 7* awakening gems in banquet
Doubt it.
I think banquet is the first place we'll be seeing 7* AG and R4 material

It's probably about time that they start to sprinkle t7b shards around. If they want to entice the whales but chucking in 2 - 5% fragments as a top reward in the GGCs and maybe a full one for some of the top spenders, I think it's about time. I like rank up gems like they've done before, but having the catalysts instead would be more meaningful.

captain_rogers · October 27

BeastDad said:

dr2ws said:
His sigs kinda useless in battlegrounds because you’re not fighting multiple defenders with him.

However in Alliance War and Questing it’s nice to have.

As a battlegrounds player and Alliance War Player I am not too bothered about the sig, mainly because of that yummy degen damage.
He does gain 3 random buffs to start the fight though with his dupe. But like you said it’s relatively useless.

But you don't get to decide it. Thenrandom effects won't make a big deal unless it's all the one which increases power rate (mystic I believe).

MizuriNicole · October 27

I already got the 7-star Sinister at Rank 2 and currently sitting on 47 tickets.
If there was an option to buy 2nd time it be nice....annoys seeing him at 24k PI in the buttom of the deck.

Asher1_1 · October 27

spiderknight616 said:

Terra said:

EdisonLaw said:
We might see 7* awakening gems in banquet
Doubt it.
I think banquet is the first place we'll be seeing 7* AG and R4 material

even if they introduce it - it will at the last milestone which is 36k+ units

Polygon · October 27

captain_rogers said:

BeastDad said:

dr2ws said:
His sigs kinda useless in battlegrounds because you’re not fighting multiple defenders with him.

However in Alliance War and Questing it’s nice to have.

As a battlegrounds player and Alliance War Player I am not too bothered about the sig, mainly because of that yummy degen damage.
He does gain 3 random buffs to start the fight though with his dupe. But like you said it’s relatively useless.
But you don't get to decide it. Thenrandom effects won't make a big deal unless it's all the one which increases power rate (mystic I believe).

I tried to put it in AI to do the calculation on tbe probability that you would get at least 1 mystic (meaning 1 or more). I probably did it wrong cause it said the probability was 42% which seems too high, but its been a while since i took combinatorial related math so I'll let @DNA3000 give a more accurate value

Ayden_noah1 · October 27

I'm hoping the chase champ will eventually make it to the titan or even better the basic cyrstal like BRB. Still waiting to awaken my CCM.

Awesomep12 · October 27

2049?

DNA3000 · October 28

Polygon said:

captain_rogers said:

BeastDad said:

dr2ws said:
His sigs kinda useless in battlegrounds because you’re not fighting multiple defenders with him.

However in Alliance War and Questing it’s nice to have.

As a battlegrounds player and Alliance War Player I am not too bothered about the sig, mainly because of that yummy degen damage.
He does gain 3 random buffs to start the fight though with his dupe. But like you said it’s relatively useless.
But you don't get to decide it. Thenrandom effects won't make a big deal unless it's all the one which increases power rate (mystic I believe).
I tried to put it in AI to do the calculation on tbe probability that you would get at least 1 mystic (meaning 1 or more). I probably did it wrong cause it said the probability was 42% which seems too high, but its been a while since i took combinatorial related math so I'll let @DNA3000 give a more accurate value

Assuming all six class buffs come up with equal chance, the odds of getting at least one mystic buff at the start of the fight is in fact 42.1%. Sounds high, but consider the odds of getting none. You’d have to miss the first one, and then the second one, and then the third one. Each has a 5/6 ~= 83% chance to miss. So missing the first one is 5/6. Missing the second one is (5/6)^2 = 25/36. Missing all three in a row is (5/6)^3 = 125/216 ~= 0.579. The odds of getting at least one is thus the inverse of that, or about 42.1%.

A sometimes confusing intuitive check (confusing, because it seems to employ thinking you’re taught *not* to do in statistics) is to ask how many buffs you’ll get on average. Since they are all independent buffs (presumably) the average number you’ll get in every fight is just 1/6 x 3 or 3/6 = 0.5, or one half of a buff. There are four possibilities: zero, one, two, or three. It is obvious that getting two or three are very low probability events. So *most* of the time you’ll get either zero or one. Since the average is half or one, the odds should split roughly evenly between those two possibilities. And since those two uncommon possibilities still exist and would pull the average upward, getting zero must be more than 50% likely, so that the combination of one, two, and three would pull the average back to one half.

So “intuitively” if you’re mathematically inclined, zero should happen a bit more than half the time, and thus the odds of getting one, two, or three should happen a bit less than half the time. One should happen somewhat less than half the time, and two and three should have progressively lower odds of happening.

You probably have to work with numbers a lot to build this sort of intuition, but it is helpful to double check otherwise abstract calculations. 42% “feels right” to me (and it is according to calculations).

When do you think F2P will get a chance at Duping 7* Sinister?

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