Genuinely curious as to why there is a purchase limit in some of the stores?

JackTheSnackJackTheSnack Member Posts: 720 ★★★
edited October 28 in General Discussion
Genuinely curious as to why there is a weekly limit on 6 star shards, etc., especially in small amounts for paragon and valiant players. This especially doesn’t make sense right after the realm event where I have 130k battlegrounds tokens stacked up. I’m only able to open 3 6 stars a week per the battlegrounds store. It’ll take me 10 weeks to open all lol

On a positive note, even though I didn’t pull Kate, Galan, Arch, or Kingpin (four I’ve been searching out for years) I got all new champs I didn’t have.

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  • captain_rogerscaptain_rogers Member Posts: 9,797 ★★★★★
    ahmynuts said:

    Ansh_A said:

    The battleground store needs an update. I haven't always agreed with people who have said this before but after the number of tokens we got during the realm events, I have been struggling to find a way to usTh them and kept hitting the 150k cap despite buying t6 tokens.

    I agree it needs an update but it's absolutely absurd you're claiming that you are struggling to find a use for the tokens
    This season yeah. I don't have a problem but I'm forced to buy stuff I usually won't buy, so it's a problem Atleasthis season
  • JackTheSnackJackTheSnack Member Posts: 720 ★★★
    ahmynuts said:

    Ansh_A said:

    The battleground store needs an update. I haven't always agreed with people who have said this before but after the number of tokens we got during the realm events, I have been struggling to find a way to use them and kept hitting the 150k cap despite buying t6 tokens.

    I agree it needs an update but it's absolutely absurd you're claiming that you are struggling to find a use for the tokens
    I mean I don’t want to use them just to use them. I want to use them on stuff that I want🤣. I wouldn’t call that absurd. As a paragon player it’s not worth it for me to burn through 10k chips just for 1k 7 star shards. Plus, I can get 10k 6 star shards for just under 5k chips and get MORE 7 star shards from the dupes. But only being able to open 3 6 stars a week but having 130k chips is just a waiting game bc I’m not going to waste them on other stuff. Besides, I usually get my rank up materials from the glory store so I can get relic shards and 6 star shards (bc there’s very few I don’t have and don’t have duped - meaning it’s more shards for less chips) from the BGs store.
  • JackTheSnackJackTheSnack Member Posts: 720 ★★★

    ahmynuts said:

    Ansh_A said:

    The battleground store needs an update. I haven't always agreed with people who have said this before but after the number of tokens we got during the realm events, I have been struggling to find a way to usTh them and kept hitting the 150k cap despite buying t6 tokens.

    I agree it needs an update but it's absolutely absurd you're claiming that you are struggling to find a use for the tokens
    This season yeah. I don't have a problem but I'm forced to buy stuff I usually won't buy, so it's a problem Atleasthis season
    Wait. Why are you forced? Do they expire or?
  • JackTheSnackJackTheSnack Member Posts: 720 ★★★

    ahmynuts said:

    Ansh_A said:

    The battleground store needs an update. I haven't always agreed with people who have said this before but after the number of tokens we got during the realm events, I have been struggling to find a way to usTh them and kept hitting the 150k cap despite buying t6 tokens.

    I agree it needs an update but it's absolutely absurd you're claiming that you are struggling to find a use for the tokens
    This season yeah. I don't have a problem but I'm forced to buy stuff I usually won't buy, so it's a problem Atleasthis season
    Wait. Why are you forced? Do they expire or?
    They don’t reset do they? I swore they stayed there and you could hold onto them?
  • captain_rogerscaptain_rogers Member Posts: 9,797 ★★★★★

    ahmynuts said:

    Ansh_A said:

    The battleground store needs an update. I haven't always agreed with people who have said this before but after the number of tokens we got during the realm events, I have been struggling to find a way to usTh them and kept hitting the 150k cap despite buying t6 tokens.

    I agree it needs an update but it's absolutely absurd you're claiming that you are struggling to find a use for the tokens
    This season yeah. I don't have a problem but I'm forced to buy stuff I usually won't buy, so it's a problem Atleasthis season
    Wait. Why are you forced? Do they expire or?
    The limit is only 150k trophy tokens
  • Ansh_AAnsh_A Member Posts: 622 ★★★

    ahmynuts said:

    Ansh_A said:

    The battleground store needs an update. I haven't always agreed with people who have said this before but after the number of tokens we got during the realm events, I have been struggling to find a way to usTh them and kept hitting the 150k cap despite buying t6 tokens.

    I agree it needs an update but it's absolutely absurd you're claiming that you are struggling to find a use for the tokens
    This season yeah. I don't have a problem but I'm forced to buy stuff I usually won't buy, so it's a problem Atleasthis season
    Wait. Why are you forced? Do they expire or?
    If you reached 5k tokens this bg then you will hit the 150k cap fast and there is no overflow. I had to keep buying stuff like 6* sig stones to make room for the milestone rewards.

    Not complaining, too much is always good but a refuced 7* shard fee will really help. It also doesnt help that i only fo 6* featured and this featured pool is horrible
  • JackTheSnackJackTheSnack Member Posts: 720 ★★★

    ahmynuts said:

    Ansh_A said:

    The battleground store needs an update. I haven't always agreed with people who have said this before but after the number of tokens we got during the realm events, I have been struggling to find a way to usTh them and kept hitting the 150k cap despite buying t6 tokens.

    I agree it needs an update but it's absolutely absurd you're claiming that you are struggling to find a use for the tokens
    This season yeah. I don't have a problem but I'm forced to buy stuff I usually won't buy, so it's a problem Atleasthis season
    Wait. Why are you forced? Do they expire or?
    The limit is only 150k trophy tokens
    Ah. I see. I’m at 130k but I could see where some people are probably well over that now. Even at 130 or 150 or wherever people are, it’s gonna take me forever to spend them bc I don’t want to just go buying stuff. Like you were saying, you shouldn’t be forced to spend them especially on stuff you don’t really want/need
  • JackTheSnackJackTheSnack Member Posts: 720 ★★★
    Ansh_A said:

    ahmynuts said:

    Ansh_A said:

    The battleground store needs an update. I haven't always agreed with people who have said this before but after the number of tokens we got during the realm events, I have been struggling to find a way to usTh them and kept hitting the 150k cap despite buying t6 tokens.

    I agree it needs an update but it's absolutely absurd you're claiming that you are struggling to find a use for the tokens
    This season yeah. I don't have a problem but I'm forced to buy stuff I usually won't buy, so it's a problem Atleasthis season
    Wait. Why are you forced? Do they expire or?
    If you reached 5k tokens this bg then you will hit the 150k cap fast and there is no overflow. I had to keep buying stuff like 6* sig stones to make room for the milestone rewards.

    Not complaining, too much is always good but a refuced 7* shard fee will really help. It also doesnt help that i only fo 6* featured and this featured pool is horrible
    I did. I already cleaned out a little today on some relic shards and 6 star shards to bring me down to 130k. I prob hit the 150k limit and since there’s no notification to spend them I probably wasted a lot.

    I completely agree. As paragon you can get a 6 star basic for under 5k BG tokens. That 6 star can lead almost just as many 7 star shards as you can buy in the store. The math definitely isn’t mathing there. At the current state I’d much rather buy 6 star shards, get new champs and dupes and sigs and 7 star shards all for slightly more. But only being able to buy 3 at a time and then having to wait a week with a new season approaching isn’t good.
  • Average_DesiAverage_Desi Member Posts: 679 ★★★
    You can buy the she hulk piece. You can sell it later for the same price
  • JackTheSnackJackTheSnack Member Posts: 720 ★★★

    You can buy the she hulk piece. You can sell it later for the same price

    I don’t want to do that bc I’m not going to get the piece from SOS. So there’s no point.

    Wym you can sell it? For gold? For BGs Tokens?
  • dr2wsdr2ws Member Posts: 486 ★★★
    Ansh_A said:

    The battleground store needs an update. I haven't always agreed with people who have said this before but after the number of tokens we got during the realm events, I have been struggling to find a way to use them and kept hitting the 150k cap despite buying t6 tokens.

    I’ve never had 80k before and it’s becoming a stretch to keep them and do nothing with them 😭
  • JackTheSnackJackTheSnack Member Posts: 720 ★★★

    You can buy the she hulk piece. You can sell it later for the same price

    I don’t want to do that bc I’m not going to get the piece from SOS. So there’s no point.

    Wym you can sell it? For gold? For BGs Tokens?
    For bg tokens. It costs 30k. Also this is the 6* rarity piece. If you don't redeem it for she hulk, you can sell it back for the same price. I did it when I was going to have tokens in overflow
    Smarrrrrt
  • GlassbackGlassback Member Posts: 677 ★★★
    edited October 29
    Having a cap on both the resource and the store is good, means it’s easy for them to add to the store without much work and no long processes around analysing if the economy of the game can be broken.

    To answer the title, it’s what happened to the loyalty store, it was an uncapped resource and people had tens of millions so they had to put absurd timers on the 7* and the price of the t6b and t3a is nonsense.

    Glory store just had t4a frags added, easy peasy. BG store will be simple when they come to update it. Might be worth spending some time pulling and ranking 5/6* relics in the meantime for a little boost to your roster. Those little percentage increments on the relics make a difference in battlegrounds imo.
  • PT_99PT_99 Member Posts: 4,642 ★★★★★
    As Valiant I'm only purchasing r3 materials from BG shop,
    Shards only when I'm 1k or something away
  • Graves_3Graves_3 Member Posts: 1,555 ★★★★★
    Are you all not purchasing t6cc, t3a and t6b? How are you having overflow issues if you are buying max amount of the above?
  • JackTheSnackJackTheSnack Member Posts: 720 ★★★
    Graves_3 said:

    Are you all not purchasing t6cc, t3a and t6b? How are you having overflow issues if you are buying max amount of the above?

    I use the glory store to purchase that. I want the 6 star shards for champs in hunting for and dupes for the 7 star shards from BGs
  • JackTheSnackJackTheSnack Member Posts: 720 ★★★
    Graves_3 said:

    Are you all not purchasing t6cc, t3a and t6b? How are you having overflow issues if you are buying max amount of the above?

    Nah. Few missing key 6 stars I want to pull bc I focus on getting most of my goats to r4 and r5 and then r2 and r3 my few 7 star goats
  • UsagicassidyUsagicassidy Member Posts: 1,443 ★★★★
    Which stores did Kabam say were getting updates very soon? I seem to recall them saying something a month or so ago but can't remember what or which stores.
  • DNA3000DNA3000 Member, Guardian Posts: 19,709 Guardian

    Genuinely curious as to why there is a weekly limit on 6 star shards, etc., especially in small amounts for paragon and valiant players. This especially doesn’t make sense right after the realm event where I have 130k battlegrounds tokens stacked up. I’m only able to open 3 6 stars a week per the battlegrounds store. It’ll take me 10 weeks to open all lol

    On a positive note, even though I didn’t pull Kate, Galan, Arch, or Kingpin (four I’ve been searching out for years) I got all new champs I didn’t have.

    The reason why there are purchase limits in general is because every purchase, whether it is from the cash store or the resource stores, is because there are two separate limiting factors for most purchases: the value proposition and economic impact guardrails.

    The value proposition is: how much value can we give you for the currency you're spending. Most of the time this is what ultimately encourages people to spend or not spend. More value will encourage more people to purchase.

    The economic impact guardrails are necessary because the game economy is typically balanced around a wide but not infinite range around the average player. For every resource there is an average amount the average player has to spend. Some players have more, some have less. Around that range it is possible to balance the game economy. But then there is the one percent of players with ten times more, and the 0.1% of players with a hundred times more, and the 0.001% of players with a thousand times more. You can't really balance the game around those people.

    The higher the value proposition, the greater the impact on the economy if you let people buy more of them, so these two things act in opposition. The better the value, the less of it you can let people buy. In extreme cases, you might make the proposition value really great, but then limit players to only one or a couple of them.

    Why a specific item might have an apparently ludicrously low limit is probably based on a number of factors: what the value proposition is for that item relative to the desired game economy balance, what's going on elsewhere in the game (often players will judge a single store purchase while the game economy designers always look at every purchase in terms of all of them combined), and the fact that store updates take significant time and resources to adjust to the overall game economy so they are often way better than they should be on the day they are changed, and decay over time until they become somewhat worse than intended towards the end of the update cycle.

    But surely the devs can just look at those and realize they are too low and just tweak them in a couple minutes, right?

    No, they can't. The moment a game economy designer decides to start down that dark path, forever will it dominate their destiny.
  • JackTheSnackJackTheSnack Member Posts: 720 ★★★

    Which stores did Kabam say were getting updates very soon? I seem to recall them saying something a month or so ago but can't remember what or which stores.

    Glory or loyalty I think
  • spiderknight616spiderknight616 Member Posts: 611 ★★★
    edited October 30

    Which stores did Kabam say were getting updates very soon? I seem to recall them saying something a month or so ago but can't remember what or which stores.

    Glory or loyalty I think
    Glory already got an update with the T4A and lower prices for other stuff
  • JackTheSnackJackTheSnack Member Posts: 720 ★★★

    Which stores did Kabam say were getting updates very soon? I seem to recall them saying something a month or so ago but can't remember what or which stores.

    Glory or loyalty I think
    Glory already got an update with the T4A and lower prices for other stuff
    I was responding to another comment asking which stores got an update
  • TerminatrixTerminatrix Member Posts: 2,999 ★★★★★
    Because something something something "ruin the economy of the game" something something something.......
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