Gahh why do so many people think difficulty automatically = good? Tough content can be well designed, but it can also be terribly designed. The difficulty is not what determines how good or bad something is, there’s a multitude of different factors responsible for that.
It’s this same logic that leads people to unironically think serpent is healthy for the game because he’s difficult lol.
Seems the like the overall theme of 9.2 is how to stop summoners doing damage. Do something in a specific order with these conditions or else you are doing zeros. No Striker - zero damage as you can't remove certain protection without it too many Buffs - zero damage if you don't throw striker at specific buff count.
Halfway through on completion. Scourge very tricky to manage but once you do, damage is pretty good. What I don’t like so far is unblockable and unstoppable nodes used once too often. 9.2.3 scourge path is very tough and would be good if it can be tuned down
I haven't been invited to the 9.2 beta, but just from the screenshots alone I can tell how much of a pain in the a** its going to be when it gets released. Scourge nodes have always been the most annoying to manage and read through for me, and the fact that playing through a story quest is becoming more and more of a chore is really concerning.
People now don't want any challenge, they just want ez reward 🤷 & a challenge is not fun for them.
Get stuck -> rankup counter -> clear content
scourge arent a challenge, they dont need a counter lol scourge u can do with groot, the nodes arent "hard" the nodes are boring and obnoxious to understand and long to read for an unmemorable quest in the end. theres 0 ranking requirement for 90% of story content u can do everything with herc if u want u just have to read an article of list of nodes
So u don't need rankup So u can do with any champ So u just need to read the node & play with the nodes Isn't that a good thing then lol , u can do any fight with any champ ?? How is this boring 😄
"just read the node and play with the node" is exactly my point, reading them and understanding what needs to be done takes so long its tedious. im mid fight and so much is happening i already forgot how to remove scourge charges, let alone all the autoblock evade unstoppable unblockable its just not fun content anymore so much to read and nothing's memorable. act6 was difficult and actually interesting this is just slapping nodes hoping they work together
People now don't want any challenge, they just want ez reward 🤷 & a challenge is not fun for them.
Get stuck -> rankup counter -> clear content
scourge arent a challenge, they dont need a counter lol scourge u can do with groot, the nodes arent "hard" the nodes are boring and obnoxious to understand and long to read for an unmemorable quest in the end. theres 0 ranking requirement for 90% of story content u can do everything with herc if u want u just have to read an article of list of nodes
So u don't need rankup So u can do with any champ So u just need to read the node & play with the nodes Isn't that a good thing then lol , u can do any fight with any champ ?? How is this boring 😄
"just read the node and play with the node" is exactly my point, reading them and understanding what needs to be done takes so long its tedious. im mid fight and so much is happening i already forgot how to remove scourge charges, let alone all the autoblock evade unstoppable unblockable its just not fun content anymore so much to read and nothing's memorable. act6 was difficult and actually interesting this is just slapping nodes hoping they work together
Now hold on, the first few chapters of Act 6 were absolutely just slapping nodes together and hoping they work together. If not that, then they were node combos designed to have no counter and just kill you. It had every bs defender with every bs node they could muster. There’s a reason so many players simply have never completed Act 6, and it’s not just lackluster rewards. Every time someone tells me that Act 6 was interesting and fair I have to ask if they actually played it pre-nerf because even post-nerf it’s not exactly fun.
I’m slowly working through the beta myself. I don’t hate scourge nodes as much as others here do, although I definitely have some gripes with a few of them. I mostly just want smaller healthpools. 9.1 was a slog because the fights took so long even if they weren’t difficult, and 9.2 doesn’t seem to address this enough. You can make me work for my wins without making me trudge through them for 5-10 minutes. It makes me feel pressured to use my nukes to get things done reasonably fast instead of actually having fun with whatever champ I want.
People now don't want any challenge, they just want ez reward 🤷 & a challenge is not fun for them.
Get stuck -> rankup counter -> clear content
It's not about challenge it's about the nodes just being bad and the fact that ai is still horrible which makes the fights feel unnecessarily lengthy and annoying especially the rinthrah boss ai in the 1st quest that thing only has heavy spam coded in it the content isn't hard it's just feels like rather annoying and lengthy
I liked the scourge nodes. There's a great payoff. You can get rid of half the health of the opponent with just one scourge burst
Ive only done 2 so far and the 9.2 one with riot some of the specials like she hulks you couldn't even heavy punish . Idk how impractical/feasible the other ones are
People now don't want any challenge, they just want ez reward 🤷 & a challenge is not fun for them.
Get stuck -> rankup counter -> clear content
scourge arent a challenge, they dont need a counter lol scourge u can do with groot, the nodes arent "hard" the nodes are boring and obnoxious to understand and long to read for an unmemorable quest in the end. theres 0 ranking requirement for 90% of story content u can do everything with herc if u want u just have to read an article of list of nodes
So u don't need rankup So u can do with any champ So u just need to read the node & play with the nodes Isn't that a good thing then lol , u can do any fight with any champ ?? How is this boring 😄
"just read the node and play with the node" is exactly my point, reading them and understanding what needs to be done takes so long its tedious. im mid fight and so much is happening i already forgot how to remove scourge charges, let alone all the autoblock evade unstoppable unblockable its just not fun content anymore so much to read and nothing's memorable. act6 was difficult and actually interesting this is just slapping nodes hoping they work together
Avg fight time in 9.2 is 3-4 min u couldn't remember for 4 min 🤷 that's not the game fault
People now don't want any challenge, they just want ez reward 🤷 & a challenge is not fun for them.
Get stuck -> rankup counter -> clear content
It's not about challenge it's about the nodes just being bad and the fact that ai is still horrible which makes the fights feel unnecessarily lengthy and annoying especially the rinthrah boss ai in the 1st quest that thing only has heavy spam coded in it the content isn't hard it's just feels like rather annoying and lengthy
My biggest issue they spend 6 months making this stuff and they put zero thought into it 6 scourge paths, 6 protection path that you need striker and something to disable, and 6 random node comp paths. Total of 18 paths where 2/3 are basically the same. If it’s gonna take you forever to get the content out put some effort and thought stop being lazy story has gotten stupid boring cause each quest is just new champs slight tweaks to the nodes, and a new special boss to end the chapter
Yeah all the protection/ unblockable/ unstoppable stuff and then the nodes sometimes neutered the class bonus on the path along with puzzling choices as defenders was a bit overplayed.
People now don't want any challenge, they just want ez reward 🤷 & a challenge is not fun for them.
Get stuck -> rankup counter -> clear content
scourge arent a challenge, they dont need a counter lol scourge u can do with groot, the nodes arent "hard" the nodes are boring and obnoxious to understand and long to read for an unmemorable quest in the end. theres 0 ranking requirement for 90% of story content u can do everything with herc if u want u just have to read an article of list of nodes
So u don't need rankup So u can do with any champ So u just need to read the node & play with the nodes Isn't that a good thing then lol , u can do any fight with any champ ?? How is this boring 😄
"just read the node and play with the node" is exactly my point, reading them and understanding what needs to be done takes so long its tedious. im mid fight and so much is happening i already forgot how to remove scourge charges, let alone all the autoblock evade unstoppable unblockable its just not fun content anymore so much to read and nothing's memorable. act6 was difficult and actually interesting this is just slapping nodes hoping they work together
Avg fight time in 9.2 is 3-4 min u couldn't remember for 4 min 🤷 that's not the game fault
what does fight time have to do with having 6 nodes for scourge 😭doesnt matter if its 20 minutes long, im saying the second i go in and see everything happen with 10 timers im already confused and have to re-read the nodes, its pretty evident from people streaming act9 they have to open the nodes mid fight, its a lot to manage and its not fun is my point
There is a storm boss in 9.2.3. You cannot dex her specials and she gets unblockable with 10 prowess. Oh and bleed if you parry which gives her prowess.
There is a storm boss in 9.2.3. You cannot dex her specials and she gets unblockable with 10 prowess. Oh and bleed if you parry which gives her prowess.
So basically an OG iron man fight who can block unblockable specials and negate prowess.
There is a storm boss in 9.2.3. You cannot dex her specials and she gets unblockable with 10 prowess. Oh and bleed if you parry which gives her prowess.
So basically an OG iron man fight who can block unblockable specials and negate prowess.
Literally yeah but you have to maintain the prowess count since she has inflated ego (no damage if she don't have 3+ buffs) so it is a very fun fight with ironman managing prowess and invalidating them.
I liked the scourge nodes. There's a great payoff. You can get rid of half the health of the opponent with just one scourge burst
Really? I’ve only felt that once (Scourge node where specials into block eradicates; using Valkyrie lets you KO by the time you reach reach your SP2). Every other time, I let Scourge build up to 9-10 and eradicate, and maybe see only 10% of the health get removed. So most of the time my experience is that it is better to avoid the headache of Scourge abilities and just take down health with normal attacking, vs having to deal with the Scourge abilities for a measly eradicate payoff.
This has essentially been my problem with 9.2 … fights feel long and tedious, and the nodes that give the Attacker a benefit don’t feel significant enough to remove the tedium.
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It’s this same logic that leads people to unironically think serpent is healthy for the game because he’s difficult lol.
Do something in a specific order with these conditions or else you are doing zeros.
No Striker - zero damage as you can't remove certain protection without it
too many Buffs - zero damage if you don't throw striker at specific buff count.
most paths seems variations to above.
6 scourge paths, 6 protection path that you need striker and something to disable, and 6 random node comp paths. Total of 18 paths where 2/3 are basically the same. If it’s gonna take you forever to get the content out put some effort and thought stop being lazy story has gotten stupid boring cause each quest is just new champs slight tweaks to the nodes, and a new special boss to end the chapter
This has essentially been my problem with 9.2 … fights feel long and tedious, and the nodes that give the Attacker a benefit don’t feel significant enough to remove the tedium.