We need to address the Banquet Crystal token point reduction
Normax_X
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This post isn't about the rewards or ranked or any of that. I am only dicussing the token points that got changed last minute from 400 to 100. Over the past months, many players, myself included, have invested time and resources into getting tokens with the understanding that they would be exchanged for Banquet crystals and contribute to event points.
However, the sudden addition of a clause AFTER the fact that people farmed using real money in daily deals stating that tickets will now only count for 100 points rather than 400 of the expected points is unacceptable. This decision significantly undermines the transparency we expect from Kabam.
Many players made strategic decisions over months based on the original rules. Retroactively changing these rules feels exploitative and unfair. At minimum, the tickets’ original value be honored for this banquet event, as this was the implicit agreement when players acquired them.
They also said that they decided to allow us to get the superior banquet crystal rather than the intended lower banquet crystal, so we wouldv'e had two issues to deal with here had they not addressed this part early. Which again, did not state in the description that it would give us a lower than expected crystal prior to people spending.
Kabam needs to address this as it quite literally falls within unethical business practice by definition or to put it bluntly, its a scam.
However, the sudden addition of a clause AFTER the fact that people farmed using real money in daily deals stating that tickets will now only count for 100 points rather than 400 of the expected points is unacceptable. This decision significantly undermines the transparency we expect from Kabam.
Many players made strategic decisions over months based on the original rules. Retroactively changing these rules feels exploitative and unfair. At minimum, the tickets’ original value be honored for this banquet event, as this was the implicit agreement when players acquired them.
They also said that they decided to allow us to get the superior banquet crystal rather than the intended lower banquet crystal, so we wouldv'e had two issues to deal with here had they not addressed this part early. Which again, did not state in the description that it would give us a lower than expected crystal prior to people spending.
Kabam needs to address this as it quite literally falls within unethical business practice by definition or to put it bluntly, its a scam.
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Don't we usually only get the points for buying SBC with units?
Also, has it been confirmed that token SBCs will not give 400 points?
The tokens will get you crystals, the crystals will get you points. But the language has been clear since the first banquet - you get points for purchasing crystals, not for trading for them.
You only just found out the points earned yesterday so how on earth could they have "changed it at the last moment"?
Also, for someone not being affected whatsoever, "unethical business practices" and "scam" are strong terms.
Technically, you aren't purchasing SBCs with tokens since the tokens are just placeholders. They can't give us the crystals early since they aren't available until tomorrow. Those will be like the ones we get from milestones.
I can see a case for the tokens earned from purchases like daily offers. But since you are buying tokens and trading for a crystal, there's no way to transfer that "value" of which token was traded.
Essentially they would need 2 versions of the gifting crystals.
Granted, you got a lot of other stuff for that spend as well, but a significant motivator for folks who purchased Daily specials (for real world currency) was most certainly the Banquet tickets.
Is it arguable the Banquet tickets were simply *bonuses* dropped into the Dailies? Sure, but they could also be viewed as an inducement to buy more Dailies or as a concrete and integral part of the purchase.
My conclusion: It would be fair to have the crystals acquired via tokens count as purchased SBCs, but there’s no requirement to do so. It would also have been nice to know all of this explicitly a few months ago.
Dr. Zola
Not trying to be contrary—but I don’t believe this is as clear-cut a case as others do, and I’d like to think the game team isn’t in the business of punishing Summoners, whether they spend real world money on the game or not.
Dr. Zola
Because of that, the illusion of increasing points for tokens is just an illusion, it wouldn't actually help anyone
To accrue, for example, 50 Banquet tokens, a Summoner would likely spend between ~$2000-2500 (assuming some tokens were acquired via free tickets). That alone could buy a lot more than the mythical 12K unit target.
No matter what the devs *game economy* calculations might be, that’s a fair bit of cost itself to most people.
Dr. Zola
If they wanted to have a minimum spend vs the free ones, they should have had superior tokens in the money deals like the dailies vs normal tokens for the banquet & greater banquet crystals, the same way they have two types of sigil credits in the sigil store.
Give people all the information from the first day of the glorious games packages back in July was it and then let ppl decide if they were spending then or now for the same amount.