Please say he's getting a buff.

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  • KlLLKlLL Member Posts: 100 ★★

    He is definitely not the shiny champ. But he is far from requiring a buff.

    watch this video of a r3 rhulk and say that again
    https://youtu.be/KA0CSyiPHtI
  • fitenitefitenite Member Posts: 47
    If Rulk did get a buff I was thinking it could be something like when he exceeds his 10 heat charges, he gets overcharged with heat and as he stands close to his opponents, it applies incinerate debuffs on them, like Bishop. And the more overcharged he gets, the quicker the debuffs stack, and when the debuffs stack up to 10, he gets a temporary unblockable and does extra damage like immortal abomination. This way he still stays on the simple side and gets the damage buff I feel he needs.
    I've seen his ranked up damage, and feel like he's at least 1 rank behind on damage, considering that's all he has to offer besides immunities. Like Warlock's basic damage isn't the best, but he also has alternate forms of damage like bleed, shock, and degen plus all his utilities/immunities
  • DemonzfyreDemonzfyre Member Posts: 22,286 ★★★★★
    KlLL said:

    Just tell us you've never used him before.

    He's only ever been used in those aw nodes where you needed his immunities but now he's even outdated in that. P.S you don't get a Kabam check for how hard you defend them.

    I can't trust anything from someone who can't properly use quotes on the forums. No wonder you have the opinions you have.
    i’ve seen you in multiple discussions glazing rhulk, op is rightfully upset. rhulk has no business being in the titan pool, he’s outdated and we should have gotten a mutant instead. 20k shards for this is a spit in the face.
    Hey look, another person who doesn't understand what the Titan crystal is. 🤷
  • DemonzfyreDemonzfyre Member Posts: 22,286 ★★★★★
    KlLL said:

    He is definitely not the shiny champ. But he is far from requiring a buff.

    watch this video of a r3 rhulk and say that again
    https://youtu.be/KA0CSyiPHtI
    We've found another herc stan who can't see past their crutch.
  • DemonzfyreDemonzfyre Member Posts: 22,286 ★★★★★
    fitenite said:

    If Rulk did get a buff I was thinking it could be something like when he exceeds his 10 heat charges, he gets overcharged with heat and as he stands close to his opponents, it applies incinerate debuffs on them, like Bishop. And the more overcharged he gets, the quicker the debuffs stack, and when the debuffs stack up to 10, he gets a temporary unblockable and does extra damage like immortal abomination. This way he still stays on the simple side and gets the damage buff I feel he needs.
    I've seen his ranked up damage, and feel like he's at least 1 rank behind on damage, considering that's all he has to offer besides immunities. Like Warlock's basic damage isn't the best, but he also has alternate forms of damage like bleed, shock, and degen plus all his utilities/immunities

    Nah, make the charges persistent. 2 carry over each fight and that's how many he starts with.
  • DemonzfyreDemonzfyre Member Posts: 22,286 ★★★★★
    Jack2634 said:

    to be fair, problem with red hulk is, he really need the 'good matchups' to get the job done. Without that, he is a dud with a desperately slow build-up. And even with all of them lining up perfectly, in comparison to other science powerhouses which is already a class with lots of titans, he still looks mediocre.

    So yeah, i don't think i want to see a science champion with lower damage output, less utilities and less usages in one of my titan pulls

    Rhulks good matchups-
    Champs with energy hits.
    Champs who have poison debuffs
    Champs who have incinerate debuffs
    Champs who deal incinerate damage
    Mystics
    Nodes which apply poison
    Nodes which apply incinerate

    He has plenty of "good matchups". You're using this as an excuse to hate on him while these other "powerhouses" also require their good matchups to be that powerhouse.

    Which science "powerhouse" excels in every single fight no matter defender?
  • captain_rogerscaptain_rogers Member Posts: 10,070 ★★★★★
    KlLL said:

    He is definitely not the shiny champ. But he is far from requiring a buff.

    watch this video of a r3 rhulk and say that again
    https://youtu.be/KA0CSyiPHtI
    Trappy literally said he is not bad enough to get a buff lmfaoo
  • KlLLKlLL Member Posts: 100 ★★
    edited December 19

    KlLL said:

    He is definitely not the shiny champ. But he is far from requiring a buff.

    watch this video of a r3 rhulk and say that again
    https://youtu.be/KA0CSyiPHtI
    We've found another herc stan who can't see past their crutch.
    btw are you going to resort to saying this everytime someone doesn’t agree with you? it’s such a dumb projection, outdated champions with barely any use, if any, should not be added into the titan crystal, ever.
  • Jack2634Jack2634 Member Posts: 948 ★★★
    edited December 19

    Jack2634 said:

    to be fair, problem with red hulk is, he really need the 'good matchups' to get the job done. Without that, he is a dud with a desperately slow build-up. And even with all of them lining up perfectly, in comparison to other science powerhouses which is already a class with lots of titans, he still looks mediocre.

    So yeah, i don't think i want to see a science champion with lower damage output, less utilities and less usages in one of my titan pulls

    Rhulks good matchups-
    Champs with energy hits.
    Champs who have poison debuffs
    Champs who have incinerate debuffs
    Champs who deal incinerate damage
    Mystics
    Nodes which apply poison
    Nodes which apply incinerate

    He has plenty of "good matchups". You're using this as an excuse to hate on him while these other "powerhouses" also require their good matchups to be that powerhouse.

    Which science "powerhouse" excels in every single fight no matter defender?
    thats my point. He is like a 6-7 in everything, he can be good at many things, but he isnt excel at anything. Why should i use a champ with 6-7 at everything when i can use the champ with only some 9-10 for that ?
    - Hulk does not have incinerate immune but he can stun lock, be faster than red hulk in short fight and longer fight. And incinerate node is hard af to find (sorry to path 9 players)
    - Titania, photon have more defensive value and more damage in shorter fights. The only case they will be bad is a debuff immune node which again, can't even find one for the last few years
    - spider-ham, scorp, nefaria. All of them are just better, both defensively and offensively.
    - cage and void have their unique usages.
    He is just....not suitable for what is going on in the game. If i need a poison immune i'd rather take hulk. If the node has hazard shift incinerate, onslaught murdered. In battlegrounds, i believe all of the above picks will do better than rulk in non-energy hit fights, with some of them outclass him even against his fav food - mystic.
  • DemonzfyreDemonzfyre Member Posts: 22,286 ★★★★★
    KlLL said:

    KlLL said:

    He is definitely not the shiny champ. But he is far from requiring a buff.

    watch this video of a r3 rhulk and say that again
    https://youtu.be/KA0CSyiPHtI
    We've found another herc stan who can't see past their crutch.
    btw are you going to resort to saying this everytime someone doesn’t agree with you? it’s such a dumb projection, outdated champions with barely any use, if any, should not be added into the titan crystal, ever.
    Yeah I will. People like you don't think outside the box. You think it's terrible to like a less popular champion. There are tons of us who have tons of rank ups of champs that aren't Hercules. Your basis on whether someone is good is big yellow numbers.

    There are more to champs that that. Stop using the word glaze every time you talk. We're arguing our points. Not drooling over a champ. Saying standard good things about something isn't glazing.
  • KlLLKlLL Member Posts: 100 ★★
    Jack2634 said:

    Jack2634 said:

    to be fair, problem with red hulk is, he really need the 'good matchups' to get the job done. Without that, he is a dud with a desperately slow build-up. And even with all of them lining up perfectly, in comparison to other science powerhouses which is already a class with lots of titans, he still looks mediocre.

    So yeah, i don't think i want to see a science champion with lower damage output, less utilities and less usages in one of my titan pulls

    Rhulks good matchups-
    Champs with energy hits.
    Champs who have poison debuffs
    Champs who have incinerate debuffs
    Champs who deal incinerate damage
    Mystics
    Nodes which apply poison
    Nodes which apply incinerate

    He has plenty of "good matchups". You're using this as an excuse to hate on him while these other "powerhouses" also require their good matchups to be that powerhouse.

    Which science "powerhouse" excels in every single fight no matter defender?
    thats my point. He is like a 6-7 in everything, he can be good at many things, but he isnt excel at anything. Why should i use a champ with 6-7 at everything when i can use the champ with only some 9-10 for that ?
    - Hulk does not have incinerate immune but he can stun lock, be faster than red hulk in short fight and longer fight. And incinerate node is hard af to find (sorry to path 9 players)
    - Titania, photon have more defensive value and more damage in shorter fights. The only case they will be bad is a debuff immune node which again, can't even find one for the last few years
    - spider-ham, scorp, nefaria. All of them are just better, both defensively and offensively.
    - cage and void have their unique usages.
    He is just....not suitable for what is going on in the game. If i need a poison immune i'd rather take hulk. If the node has hazard shift incinerate, onslaught murdered. In battlegrounds, i believe all of the above picks will do better than rulk in non-energy hit fights, with some of them outclass him even against his fav food - mystic.
    this, times have changed. the game has changed, in 2024 we have extensively more advanced options for science champions, we have battlegrounds now (he absolutely cannot perform there), new content, etc. rhulk has no business being in the titan pool.
  • DemonzfyreDemonzfyre Member Posts: 22,286 ★★★★★
    Jack2634 said:

    Jack2634 said:

    to be fair, problem with red hulk is, he really need the 'good matchups' to get the job done. Without that, he is a dud with a desperately slow build-up. And even with all of them lining up perfectly, in comparison to other science powerhouses which is already a class with lots of titans, he still looks mediocre.

    So yeah, i don't think i want to see a science champion with lower damage output, less utilities and less usages in one of my titan pulls

    Rhulks good matchups-
    Champs with energy hits.
    Champs who have poison debuffs
    Champs who have incinerate debuffs
    Champs who deal incinerate damage
    Mystics
    Nodes which apply poison
    Nodes which apply incinerate

    He has plenty of "good matchups". You're using this as an excuse to hate on him while these other "powerhouses" also require their good matchups to be that powerhouse.

    Which science "powerhouse" excels in every single fight no matter defender?
    thats my point. He is like a 6-7 in everything, he can be good at many things, but he isnt excel at anything. Why should i use a champ with 6-7 at everything when i can use the champ with only some 9-10 for that ?
    - Hulk does not have incinerate immune but he can stun lock, be faster than red hulk in short fight and longer fight. And incinerate node is hard af to find (sorry to path 9 players)
    - Titania, photon have more defensive value and more damage in shorter fights. The only case they will be bad is a debuff immune node which again, can't even find one for the last few years
    - spider-ham, scorp, nefaria. All of them are just better, both defensively and offensively.
    - cage and void have their unique usages.
    He is just....not suitable for what is going on in the game. If i need a poison immune i'd rather take hulk. If the node has hazard shift incinerate, onslaught murdered. In battlegrounds, i believe all of the above picks will do better than rulk in non-energy hit fights, with some of them outclass him even against his fav food - mystic.
    So basically, you're saying your "powerhouses" have strengths and weaknesses.... 🤯🤯🤯. You literally proved my point. There isn't a champ that excels in every fight.
  • KlLLKlLL Member Posts: 100 ★★

    KlLL said:

    He is definitely not the shiny champ. But he is far from requiring a buff.

    watch this video of a r3 rhulk and say that again
    https://youtu.be/KA0CSyiPHtI
    We've found another herc stan who can't see past their crutch.

    KlLL said:

    KlLL said:

    He is definitely not the shiny champ. But he is far from requiring a buff.

    watch this video of a r3 rhulk and say that again
    https://youtu.be/KA0CSyiPHtI
    We've found another herc stan who can't see past their crutch.
    btw are you going to resort to saying this everytime someone doesn’t agree with you? it’s such a dumb projection, outdated champions with barely any use, if any, should not be added into the titan crystal, ever.
    Yeah I will. People like you don't think outside the box. You think it's terrible to like a less popular champion. There are tons of us who have tons of rank ups of champs that aren't Hercules. Your basis on whether someone is good is big yellow numbers.

    There are more to champs that that. Stop using the word glaze every time you talk. We're arguing our points. Not drooling over a champ. Saying standard good things about something isn't glazing.

    my basis on whether a champion is good is NOT big yellow numbers, it’s about utility, practicality, how well they can manage a fight, how quickly can they finish fights, can they perform in battlegrounds and are they worth investing in. rhulk does not fulfill any of those requirements in 2024 and will forever sit a r1 level 1 until he gets buffed.
  • captain_rogerscaptain_rogers Member Posts: 10,070 ★★★★★
    KlLL said:

    KlLL said:

    He is definitely not the shiny champ. But he is far from requiring a buff.

    watch this video of a r3 rhulk and say that again
    https://youtu.be/KA0CSyiPHtI
    Trappy literally said he is not bad enough to get a buff lmfaoo
    i hope you get him since you like him so much, people like you always act like this until you’re the one who gets him 😭. let’s see if the glazing lasts when you roll over a scream or nefaria or rintrah and it lands on rhulk. a r3 6 star og hulk does more damage than r3 7 star rhulk get real.
    I actually don't glaze to him and I hate him/don't wanna pull him from titan. I was just disagreeing to the statement that he needs a buff.

    Is 7* red hulk from titan a cry worthy pull? Yes.
    Does he need a buff? No.
  • KlLLKlLL Member Posts: 100 ★★

    KlLL said:

    KlLL said:

    He is definitely not the shiny champ. But he is far from requiring a buff.

    watch this video of a r3 rhulk and say that again
    https://youtu.be/KA0CSyiPHtI
    We've found another herc stan who can't see past their crutch.
    btw are you going to resort to saying this everytime someone doesn’t agree with you? it’s such a dumb projection, outdated champions with barely any use, if any, should not be added into the titan crystal, ever.
    Yeah I will. People like you don't think outside the box. You think it's terrible to like a less popular champion. There are tons of us who have tons of rank ups of champs that aren't Hercules. Your basis on whether someone is good is big yellow numbers.

    There are more to champs that that. Stop using the word glaze every time you talk. We're arguing our points. Not drooling over a champ. Saying standard good things about something isn't glazing.
    i’m not wasting my time taking rhulk to r3 so it takes me 3-5 minutes to finish simple fights in act 9. why am i taking him into alliance war while i have hundreds of quicker and better options, if i take him into bgs the timer will run out before i can finish the fight 9 times out of 10 and id throw the round. let it go bro.
  • Dirty_DozzDirty_Dozz Member Posts: 497 ★★★
    When are people going to understand the Titan crystals aren't "shiny amazing Champs"? They're literally just a 7* Featured crystal that requires different Shards.

    Was definitely a mistake on Kabams part, because now people think that they're supposed to be OP Champs. 7* Shards were hard to come by at first too, but no one argued "they're hard to get, so we shouldn't get a bad Champ from it". Y'all need to temper your expectations a bit.
  • DemonzfyreDemonzfyre Member Posts: 22,286 ★★★★★
    edited December 19

    When are people going to understand the Titan crystals aren't "shiny amazing Champs"? They're literally just a 7* Featured crystal that requires different Shards.

    Was definitely a mistake on Kabams part, because now people think that they're supposed to be OP Champs. 7* Shards were hard to come by at first too, but no one argued "they're hard to get, so we shouldn't get a bad Champ from it". Y'all need to temper your expectations a bit.

    No, Titan crystals are how 7*'s get introduced into the basic pool. They're a way to target new 7* champs before heading to the basic. Kabam didn't mess up its that too many people can't understand the purpose and continue to tow this line that Titan crystals should only be for who they consider OP.
  • pseudosanepseudosane Member, Guardian Posts: 4,008 Guardian
    I dont understand the Red hulk hate. He may not be the top of the science class, but he is by far the easiest, has no complicated loops or cycles, no rigidity in his playstyle. Has decent immunities and utility. The video from Trappy looks at it from a narrow POV, but there are many other factors that go into a champs usage and popularity. I for one am extremely happy about my redhulk pull.
  • DharakDharak Member Posts: 49

    KlLL said:

    Just tell us you've never used him before.

    He's only ever been used in those aw nodes where you needed his immunities but now he's even outdated in that. P.S you don't get a Kabam check for how hard you defend them.

    I can't trust anything from someone who can't properly use quotes on the forums. No wonder you have the opinions you have.
    i’ve seen you in multiple discussions glazing rhulk, op is rightfully upset. rhulk has no business being in the titan pool, he’s outdated and we should have gotten a mutant instead. 20k shards for this is a spit in the face.
    Hey look, another person who doesn't understand what the Titan crystal is. 🤷
    And what you an expert on the titan crystal or somthing? get real you don't need to get all heated up just because everyone doesn't agree with your opinions much less being a fan of red hulk who has a buff like literally 6 years old which should get a major rework
  • PandingoPandingo Member Posts: 1,110 ★★★★
    Im here for rhulk
  • DharakDharak Member Posts: 49

    KlLL said:

    KlLL said:

    He is definitely not the shiny champ. But he is far from requiring a buff.

    watch this video of a r3 rhulk and say that again
    https://youtu.be/KA0CSyiPHtI
    Trappy literally said he is not bad enough to get a buff lmfaoo
    i hope you get him since you like him so much, people like you always act like this until you’re the one who gets him 😭. let’s see if the glazing lasts when you roll over a scream or nefaria or rintrah and it lands on rhulk. a r3 6 star og hulk does more damage than r3 7 star rhulk get real.
    I actually don't glaze to him and I hate him/don't wanna pull him from titan. I was just disagreeing to the statement that he needs a buff.

    Is 7* red hulk from titan a cry worthy pull? Yes.
    Does he need a buff? No.
    Is 7* red hulk from titan a cry worthy pull? HELL NO!
    Does he need a major buff? HELL YEAH HE DOES BIG TIME!!!
  • KlLLKlLL Member Posts: 100 ★★
    edited December 19

    When are people going to understand the Titan crystals aren't "shiny amazing Champs"? They're literally just a 7* Featured crystal that requires different Shards.

    Was definitely a mistake on Kabams part, because now people think that they're supposed to be OP Champs. 7* Shards were hard to come by at first too, but no one argued "they're hard to get, so we shouldn't get a bad Champ from it". Y'all need to temper your expectations a bit.

    No, Titan crystals are how 7*'s get introduced into the basic pool. They're a way to target new 7* champs before heading to the basic. Kabam didn't mess up its that too many people can't understand the purpose and continue to tow this line that Titan crystals should only be for who they consider OP.
    that is… not what we’re saying at all. it should not have champions in it that are borderline useless and/or outdated, every champion in a titan crystal should be useful in their own way or at the very least be fun to play. i shouldn’t be angry when i open a titan crystal after grinding towards one for months at a time.
  • DemonzfyreDemonzfyre Member Posts: 22,286 ★★★★★
    Dharak said:

    KlLL said:

    Just tell us you've never used him before.

    He's only ever been used in those aw nodes where you needed his immunities but now he's even outdated in that. P.S you don't get a Kabam check for how hard you defend them.

    I can't trust anything from someone who can't properly use quotes on the forums. No wonder you have the opinions you have.
    i’ve seen you in multiple discussions glazing rhulk, op is rightfully upset. rhulk has no business being in the titan pool, he’s outdated and we should have gotten a mutant instead. 20k shards for this is a spit in the face.
    Hey look, another person who doesn't understand what the Titan crystal is. 🤷
    And what you an expert on the titan crystal or somthing? get real you don't need to get all heated up just because everyone doesn't agree with your opinions much less being a fan of red hulk who has a buff like literally 6 years old which should get a major rework
    I'm an expert on the titan crystal in the sense I can read what Kabam told us the titan crystal is. There's reality, it's where I am and there's fantasy land, that's where you are. You've made the titan into something it's not and never intended to be. That definition lives your head alone.
  • KlLLKlLL Member Posts: 100 ★★
    edited December 19

    When are people going to understand the Titan crystals aren't "shiny amazing Champs"? They're literally just a 7* Featured crystal that requires different Shards.

    Was definitely a mistake on Kabams part, because now people think that they're supposed to be OP Champs. 7* Shards were hard to come by at first too, but no one argued "they're hard to get, so we shouldn't get a bad Champ from it". Y'all need to temper your expectations a bit.

    No, Titan crystals are how 7*'s get introduced into the basic pool. They're a way to target new 7* champs before heading to the basic. Kabam didn't mess up its that too many people can't understand the purpose and continue to tow this line that Titan crystals should only be for who they consider OP.
    now if a new champion is in it like silver sable was for example and they are bad, that’s okay because it’s still a new champion and is still kind of fun to play, sure, that comes with the chance you take by opening one, but why are we putting champions from 8-9 years ago that can’t keep up with the current game in it? just no.
  • DharakDharak Member Posts: 49

    Dharak said:

    KlLL said:

    Just tell us you've never used him before.

    He's only ever been used in those aw nodes where you needed his immunities but now he's even outdated in that. P.S you don't get a Kabam check for how hard you defend them.

    I can't trust anything from someone who can't properly use quotes on the forums. No wonder you have the opinions you have.
    i’ve seen you in multiple discussions glazing rhulk, op is rightfully upset. rhulk has no business being in the titan pool, he’s outdated and we should have gotten a mutant instead. 20k shards for this is a spit in the face.
    Hey look, another person who doesn't understand what the Titan crystal is. 🤷
    And what you an expert on the titan crystal or somthing? get real you don't need to get all heated up just because everyone doesn't agree with your opinions much less being a fan of red hulk who has a buff like literally 6 years old which should get a major rework
    I'm an expert on the titan crystal in the sense I can read what Kabam told us the titan crystal is. There's reality, it's where I am and there's fantasy land, that's where you are. You've made the titan into something it's not and never intended to be. That definition lives your head alone.
    Sure you are an expert on being oblivious as hell & the true reality of things is that red hulk needs a buff & it's both a
    fact & the truth as for the person who lives in the fantasy land now that would be non other then you who won't except reality at all & as for the titan crystal it has always been a treasure chest full of great shiny champs welcome back to the real world buddy.
  • Wicket329Wicket329 Member Posts: 3,428 ★★★★★
    There is truly no reason for this to be as aggro as it is.

    Red Hulk is very simple, has some useful utility in his immunities/psuedoimmunities, and can ramp up to decent damage. For some people, that’s what they’re looking for. For others, that’s not good enough.

    Red Hulk is a champ that thrives in certain places, such as path 9 in alliance war and various story paths, and is mediocre in others without supporting nodes/matchups, such as battlegrounds. If you are a player who focuses on BGs, Red Hulk most likely will not be making it into your deck.

    Personally, I am not hoping to pull him, the same as I was not hoping to pull several other 7* champions. I can hold that opinion and still recognize that he is enough for some people, and there’s nothing wrong with that. It’s a game premised on gambling, getting champs we aren’t thrilled with is part of the nature of the beast.
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