Thoughts about Champions for 2025

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  • WednesdayLengthWednesdayLength Member Posts: 1,998 ★★★★
    altavista said:



    First off I believe we will get 1 Eidol champion every 4 months. This I think as it spreads them out over the course of the year. Why every 4 months is because 12 months divided by 3 Eidol champions thus one of them every 4 months. My Guess is the first Eidol champion will come either next month or in April. As for the other 2, one will come between May and August and the other will come between September and December.

    If I’m not confused about how the new Titan will work, I think the first Eidol champion will be in March.

    Of the six entering the Titan update in March, Dazzler is joining, and there will be one old champion. That leaves four more new champions.

    Gentle and Okoye from Jan take two, and then the last two spots being the two Feb champions.

    Although it’s possible to get one Eidol in Feb, and thus have the last two spots be Feb champion #2 and Mar champion #1, its not as clean a break to have a March champions immediately pullable from the Titan 1-2 weeks of the official release (as people may feel less inclined to buy the early release bundle).
    The titan is changing to include more newer characters
  • XlebXleb Member Posts: 488 ★★
    edited January 17

    Just checked something a moment ago. Kabam on their Twitter/X account posted the hexagons for each class back in 2024 on January 25. It's not a guarantee that they will post on the same date, but perhaps near the end of this month they will follow a similar pattern. I hope so, but as always wait and see, but glad to find the exact date for a reference.

    @KabamPinwheel can you add further insight sir?

    Either way, I think the roadmap is pretty much guaranteed to be livestream on January 31st, so it's going to be a big month for narrative.
  • BowTieJohnBowTieJohn Member Posts: 2,432 ★★★★
    I do hope so. Just as long as it is not "pre-recorded live". lol
  • WednesdayLengthWednesdayLength Member Posts: 1,998 ★★★★
    I don't think there's anything confirming lizard and hobgoblin for this year. Theyre possible for sure but not guaranteed.
  • BowTieJohnBowTieJohn Member Posts: 2,432 ★★★★

    I don't think there's anything confirming lizard and hobgoblin for this year. Theyre possible for sure but not guaranteed.

    Does Lizard being added to the background in the Oscorp lab not count as a guarantee? The reason I ask is they intentionally added him in the test tubes that lower and know like anything done by Kabam there is an intentional purpose.

    Curious @WednesdayLength of the two which do you think has the highest possibility of coming in this year and why?

    Thank you for adding to the discussion.
  • WednesdayLengthWednesdayLength Member Posts: 1,998 ★★★★

    I don't think there's anything confirming lizard and hobgoblin for this year. Theyre possible for sure but not guaranteed.

    Does Lizard being added to the background in the Oscorp lab not count as a guarantee? The reason I ask is they intentionally added him in the test tubes that lower and know like anything done by Kabam there is an intentional purpose.

    Curious @WednesdayLength of the two which do you think has the highest possibility of coming in this year and why?

    Thank you for adding to the discussion.
    Lizard in the oscorp background was last year and everyone assumed he would come last year. I'm not saying it means nothing but I don't think that's proof of it happening this year.

    I think they're both possible given the hobgoblin was in summoners choice, there's just not enough evidence to prove when they're coming.
  • EdisonLawEdisonLaw Member Posts: 9,109 ★★★★★
    Buttehrs said:

    And what exactly makes you think lizard is this year? It's been 10 years and Hes still not in game. Don't get your hopes up.

    Maybe because April is a Spiderverse month and that there's a possibility he's coming?
  • BowTieJohnBowTieJohn Member Posts: 2,432 ★★★★
    EdisonLaw said:

    Buttehrs said:

    And what exactly makes you think lizard is this year? It's been 10 years and Hes still not in game. Don't get your hopes up.

    Maybe because April is a Spiderverse month and that there's a possibility he's coming?
    Agree and hoping so.
  • EdisonLawEdisonLaw Member Posts: 9,109 ★★★★★
    edited January 17
    altavista said:



    First off I believe we will get 1 Eidol champion every 4 months. This I think as it spreads them out over the course of the year. Why every 4 months is because 12 months divided by 3 Eidol champions thus one of them every 4 months. My Guess is the first Eidol champion will come either next month or in April. As for the other 2, one will come between May and August and the other will come between September and December.

    If I’m not confused about how the new Titan will work, I think the first Eidol champion will be in March.

    Of the six entering the Titan update in March, Dazzler is joining, and there will be one old champion. That leaves four more new champions.

    Gentle and Okoye from Jan take two, and then the last two spots being the two Feb champions.

    Although it’s possible to get one Eidol in Feb, and thus have the last two spots be Feb champion #2 and Mar champion #1, its not as clean a break to have a March champions immediately pullable from the Titan 1-2 weeks of the official release (as people may feel less inclined to buy the early release bundle).
    I don't think they are planning to put the eidol in the titan. Didn't they say that the Eidols will serve as the next Deathless type chase?
  • WednesdayLengthWednesdayLength Member Posts: 1,998 ★★★★
    EdisonLaw said:

    Buttehrs said:

    And what exactly makes you think lizard is this year? It's been 10 years and Hes still not in game. Don't get your hopes up.

    Maybe because April is a Spiderverse month and that there's a possibility he's coming?
    People always say this and it never happens lmao
  • WednesdayLengthWednesdayLength Member Posts: 1,998 ★★★★
    EdisonLaw said:

    altavista said:



    First off I believe we will get 1 Eidol champion every 4 months. This I think as it spreads them out over the course of the year. Why every 4 months is because 12 months divided by 3 Eidol champions thus one of them every 4 months. My Guess is the first Eidol champion will come either next month or in April. As for the other 2, one will come between May and August and the other will come between September and December.

    If I’m not confused about how the new Titan will work, I think the first Eidol champion will be in March.

    Of the six entering the Titan update in March, Dazzler is joining, and there will be one old champion. That leaves four more new champions.

    Gentle and Okoye from Jan take two, and then the last two spots being the two Feb champions.

    Although it’s possible to get one Eidol in Feb, and thus have the last two spots be Feb champion #2 and Mar champion #1, its not as clean a break to have a March champions immediately pullable from the Titan 1-2 weeks of the official release (as people may feel less inclined to buy the early release bundle).
    I don't think they are planning to put the eidol in the titan. Didn't they say that the Eidols will serve as the next Deathless type chase?
    They said there will be alternate ways of acquiring them but they'll still be in new champion slots not like the deathless
  • BowTieJohnBowTieJohn Member Posts: 2,432 ★★★★
    April 2024 - Prowler & Spider-Punk
    April 2023 - Shocker & Sandman
    April 2022 - Black Cat & Scorpion
    April 2021 - MROC Champions
    April 2020 - MROC Champions
    April 2019 - Annihilus & Human Torch
    April 2018 - Proxima Midnight & Corvus Glove
    April 2017 - Angela & King Groot
    April 2016 - Agent Venom & Red Hulk
    April 2015 - Ms. Marvel (Carol Danvers) & DD (original)

    As you can see since 2022 consisting we have gotten two spider-verse champions. I did look this up just so we can use evidence that is available and work from there. Enjoying this discussion as it stimulates thoughts of where we are moving in the contest and who may or may not come to the game.
  • ButtehrsButtehrs Member Posts: 6,540 ★★★★★

    April 2024 - Prowler & Spider-Punk
    April 2023 - Shocker & Sandman
    April 2022 - Black Cat & Scorpion
    April 2021 - MROC Champions
    April 2020 - MROC Champions
    April 2019 - Annihilus & Human Torch
    April 2018 - Proxima Midnight & Corvus Glove
    April 2017 - Angela & King Groot
    April 2016 - Agent Venom & Red Hulk
    April 2015 - Ms. Marvel (Carol Danvers) & DD (original)

    As you can see since 2022 consisting we have gotten two spider-verse champions. I did look this up just so we can use evidence that is available and work from there. Enjoying this discussion as it stimulates thoughts of where we are moving in the contest and who may or may not come to the game.

    3 years out of 10 ain't exactly a convincing argument. 3 consecutive might be but still, pushing it.
  • WednesdayLengthWednesdayLength Member Posts: 1,998 ★★★★
    EdisonLaw said:

    Buttehrs said:

    And what exactly makes you think lizard is this year? It's been 10 years and Hes still not in game. Don't get your hopes up.

    Maybe because April is a Spiderverse month and that there's a possibility he's coming?
    People always say this and it never happens lmao

    April 2024 - Prowler & Spider-Punk
    April 2023 - Shocker & Sandman
    April 2022 - Black Cat & Scorpion
    April 2021 - MROC Champions
    April 2020 - MROC Champions
    April 2019 - Annihilus & Human Torch
    April 2018 - Proxima Midnight & Corvus Glove
    April 2017 - Angela & King Groot
    April 2016 - Agent Venom & Red Hulk
    April 2015 - Ms. Marvel (Carol Danvers) & DD (original)

    As you can see since 2022 consisting we have gotten two spider-verse champions. I did look this up just so we can use evidence that is available and work from there. Enjoying this discussion as it stimulates thoughts of where we are moving in the contest and who may or may not come to the game.

    Sure in the last 3 years end gotten a spider verse event in April. That doesn't confirm lizard though
  • BowTieJohnBowTieJohn Member Posts: 2,432 ★★★★

    EdisonLaw said:

    Buttehrs said:

    And what exactly makes you think lizard is this year? It's been 10 years and Hes still not in game. Don't get your hopes up.

    Maybe because April is a Spiderverse month and that there's a possibility he's coming?
    People always say this and it never happens lmao

    April 2024 - Prowler & Spider-Punk
    April 2023 - Shocker & Sandman
    April 2022 - Black Cat & Scorpion
    April 2021 - MROC Champions
    April 2020 - MROC Champions
    April 2019 - Annihilus & Human Torch
    April 2018 - Proxima Midnight & Corvus Glove
    April 2017 - Angela & King Groot
    April 2016 - Agent Venom & Red Hulk
    April 2015 - Ms. Marvel (Carol Danvers) & DD (original)

    As you can see since 2022 consisting we have gotten two spider-verse champions. I did look this up just so we can use evidence that is available and work from there. Enjoying this discussion as it stimulates thoughts of where we are moving in the contest and who may or may not come to the game.

    Sure in the last 3 years end gotten a spider verse event in April. That doesn't confirm lizard though
    Well, I know three out 10 doesn't seem to say much, but it seems they have been doing this as a habit, but I understand how you see it. Something also to consider is Kabam does do things in consistent pattern such as us getting 1 champion in December which was an another pattern that has been recently some they do. Should also mention in 2016 there was one spider-verse champion.

    We wait and add to our discussion as pieces of evidence come to light.

    Curious anyone think Bastion is coming this year and could he possibly come with Jean Grey if she is the champion who meets the synergy that Gentle has, Psychotherapy(I think she fills the synergy).
  • BendyBendy Member Posts: 8,045 ★★★★★
    edited January 17
    Id love to see some more new comic faces get added like amaranth i finally now know who black tarantula is he now be cool to be added, as in marvel rivals lin lie as sword master or iron fist also can we get luna snow please.

    for 2025 i hope to see black tarantula as even though i voted shathra as i knew her from comic i now know him and hes cool and as he came second i think he should join
  • BowTieJohnBowTieJohn Member Posts: 2,432 ★★★★

    I do hope so. Just as long as it is not "pre-recorded live". lol

    Def not this time, back to "live" live now that everyone is back from break.


    Beyond that though, this is a really fun thread to read, love all the speculation, but I can say nothing more haha. Loose lips sink ships and all that ;)
    Let's just say I'm picking up what you are putting down. @KabamPinwheel ;)
  • peixemacacopeixemacaco Member Posts: 4,054 ★★★★★
    November=Hellcat
  • XlebXleb Member Posts: 488 ★★
    Okay, now my thoughts. Let's get started.

    Let's start with the fact that every half-year the Kabam try to maintain class completeness (just release 6 champions of different classes in a half-year) but sometimes it happened that only 1 class was missing for the half year.

    Based on recent leaks, we're supposed to have Joaquin Torres (Science) and Arnim Zola (Tech) coming out next month. Also, remember that Arnim Zola was teased in the 10th Anniversary trailer last month. Thus, in the first 2 months we already have 4 classes out of 6.
    Further, it was also mentioned in the leaks that Yelena Belova (Skill) is the May champion (I apologize for spreading leaks on the forum, but at the moment this is necessary to create a complete picture) and some month there will also be Jean Grey (who is also apparently a member of Gentle's "Psychotherapy" mystery synergy)
    We know that Ares will appear soon, but we don't know when and it is also likely that he is a participant in Count Nefaria's mystery synergy "Back from the Dead". Let's assume that Ares will actually have a Skill class, considering that he is literally the God of War. We also have someone with the mystery synergy Isophyne "get out of my dimension!!". Depending on how you look at this synergy, it could be a champion, which has its own dimension (for example Morgan Le Fay and Nightmare, who are both Mystic champs) or the one that Isophyne banishes from her dimension (BattleRealm), since the known participants of the synergy are very comical and annoying champions (Howard, Gwenpool and Spot), so I also consider the Impossible Man (Cosmic) and his name says it all or Slapstick (Science) to be similar annoying champions.
    Also from the trailer we have a hint of the appearance of Bastion and I am more than sure that it was not added for nothing, because Tyler knows a thing or two about hidden teasers (Of course I mean the same "OZT" in the language of the Elders in the codex of the Watcher. For those who don't know, OZT – Operation: Zero Tolerance, which has also already appeared in the game, for example as a Solo Objective in October 2022 on Omega Sentinel:


    For the last 2 years, June has been Tech villains vs. Mutants month. Let's say this year is no exception, in which case I'd guess Bastion will be released in June with someone who would really make a great pairing for him, Mystique or Jean Grey (if the second one doesn't end up in Sigil in one of the months) or be Armor.

    In May we have the movie Thunderbolts* coming out and we will get Yelena Belova according to the leak. I would definitely pair her with US Agent (John Walker), as he is one of the Thunderbolts in the movie and he would also be more likely to be a Science class. As a second I could take O'Grady (Science or Tech) as an option. (And purely logically it shouldn't be Eidol, since these are champions dedicated to the movie premiere and I don't remember Kabam releasing such champions with their Orig champs)

    April. Yes, there has already been a dispute about April being a spider-month only in recent years and yet we wait for the Lizard every April... In short, considering the class completeness, we should have Mystic and Cosmic released in the remaining two months, April and March. But we also take into account that we should, in theory, release Eidol in the first half of the year.
    And judging by its abilities, as presented in this month's event quest: "Precious Metal", it converts energy into solid light projections that can mimic the body and abilities the one whose form the projection takes. And she also loves metals and is able to control them (she infected vibranium with her "perfection" in order to be able to control it). And she also calls these projections with his toys and like a puppeteer pulls their strings, so it looks like Eidol the puppeteer, she also puts on a show and happily watches its participants suffer and craves audience sympathy, (and yes, this is not Mojo haha):









    Of course, one could assume that the love of metals is seen as a Tech Eidol, but I think that the transformation and manipulation of energy into light constructs is more like a Cosmic Eidol (in any case in this case I think it's either Cosmic or Tech Eidol) And this Eidol can only come out in March/April or June (in general, it can also fit into the Tech villains vs mutants month, if she is of the Tech class)

    Now let's turn to the December EQ "Violent Delights":

    I assumed back in December that these attacks were consistent from January to March. In January, there was an attack on Wakanda and their Vibranium. In February, there was an attack on New Manhattan and, surprisingly, judging by the February champion leaks, we'll have Joaquin Torres and Arnim Zola, who are totally New Manhattan/New York City. There is an attack on Asgard in March, judging by the attack on Odin's ravens. This is why (though not only because of this) I believe Ares will appear in March. Who can he go out with? If Eidol is a Cosmic class that doesn't come out in March AND at the same time there is no Mystic champion coming out in April/June (and I still remind you that I adhere to class completeness), then Mystic champion should come out with Ares and of course I will say – Morgan Le Fay.
    If Mystic does come out in one of the months following March in the first half of the year (or it will be the case when there is 1 class missing to class completeness), then with Ares I see Eidol (if he is Cosmic) or Cosmic Champion – I think it could be Moonstone or maybe Zeus or Athena (although she would probably also be a Skill class) BUT
    taking into account again possible hints about future events from the December EQ "Violent Delights", namely:

    DEFENDERS are atacking ASGARDIANS. I will assume that we are also talking about March. What Defenders could join Ares? Blue Marvel (Science), Wonder Man (Science), and I think Hellstrom (Mystic), at least they all have personal scores to settle with Ares.
    And the army of Spider-Men fight each other (obviously these are the events of April) if he also remains a spider month. In general, the context is similar to the events of 2022, when the army of Spider-men began to feud with each other over the burned Web of Fate and Destiny. And this month we have two Spider-Man villains, Shocker and Sandman. Perhaps the events of April will be somewhat similar to that Spider-Mans feud and then we get two spiderman villains, one of which, if Mystic is not the one with Ares, should be Mystic champ (even if Eidol is released in April instead of March) well, in general from the mystics and the spiderman villain i cant remember anyone except Demogoblin, although I don't think it will come out before Hobgoblin. And I hope that I will still see the Black Tarantula in April and I don't think that the Lizard will appear this year, yeah...

    Also, regarding Eidols, Eidols-puppeteer said one interesting thing, which traces the influence/abilities of Eidols, although maybe I'm driving myself crazy, lol:

    As far as I can tell, the Puppeteer Eidol is watching the chaos (calling it a scene). Isophyne is causing this chaos due to the ISO crystals effect on the champions, spreading anger and hate. Fear... There are two options: either it is meant in general about the fear that the Eidols sowed, or the third (or last Eidol) will spread fear himself, like Serpent

    And also, in September, when the Orochi animation was shown, at first I thought that Kabam was developing a Marrow. Seriously, her animation of pulling out spikes on her back definitely reminded me of Marrow's abilities.


    Overall, considering all of this, I think we'll get Puppeteer's Eidol in March or April (if it comes out in the first half of the year), and here's what my "blind" prediction for the first half of the year looks like:
    March: Ares (Skill) and Eidol (Cosmic) or Morgan Le Fay (Mystic) or Blue Marvel (Science), or Wonder man (Science) and I still don't think it will be Hellstrom.
    April: Black Tarantula(Skill)/Hobgoblin(Tech)/Lizard (Science) and Eidol (cosmic) or If it's a spider-man, it's Jessica Drew (Science)
    May: Yelena Belova (Skill) and Agent US (Science)
    June: Bastion (Tech) and Mystique/Jean Grey (Mutations)
    And based on this assumption, it looks like we won't have enough Mystic Champion classes to be complete, or maybe Kabam will surprise us and the completeness will be maintained, we'll see.
  • BowTieJohnBowTieJohn Member Posts: 2,432 ★★★★
    Xleb said:

    Okay, now my thoughts. Let's get started.

    Let's start with the fact that every half-year the Kabam try to maintain class completeness (just release 6 champions of different classes in a half-year) but sometimes it happened that only 1 class was missing for the half year.

    Based on recent leaks, we're supposed to have Joaquin Torres (Science) and Arnim Zola (Tech) coming out next month. Also, remember that Arnim Zola was teased in the 10th Anniversary trailer last month. Thus, in the first 2 months we already have 4 classes out of 6.
    Further, it was also mentioned in the leaks that Yelena Belova (Skill) is the May champion (I apologize for spreading leaks on the forum, but at the moment this is necessary to create a complete picture) and some month there will also be Jean Grey (who is also apparently a member of Gentle's "Psychotherapy" mystery synergy)
    We know that Ares will appear soon, but we don't know when and it is also likely that he is a participant in Count Nefaria's mystery synergy "Back from the Dead". Let's assume that Ares will actually have a Skill class, considering that he is literally the God of War. We also have someone with the mystery synergy Isophyne "get out of my dimension!!". Depending on how you look at this synergy, it could be a champion, which has its own dimension (for example Morgan Le Fay and Nightmare, who are both Mystic champs) or the one that Isophyne banishes from her dimension (BattleRealm), since the known participants of the synergy are very comical and annoying champions (Howard, Gwenpool and Spot), so I also consider the Impossible Man (Cosmic) and his name says it all or Slapstick (Science) to be similar annoying champions.
    Also from the trailer we have a hint of the appearance of Bastion and I am more than sure that it was not added for nothing, because Tyler knows a thing or two about hidden teasers (Of course I mean the same "OZT" in the language of the Elders in the codex of the Watcher. For those who don't know, OZT – Operation: Zero Tolerance, which has also already appeared in the game, for example as a Solo Objective in October 2022 on Omega Sentinel:


    For the last 2 years, June has been Tech villains vs. Mutants month. Let's say this year is no exception, in which case I'd guess Bastion will be released in June with someone who would really make a great pairing for him, Mystique or Jean Grey (if the second one doesn't end up in Sigil in one of the months) or be Armor.

    In May we have the movie Thunderbolts* coming out and we will get Yelena Belova according to the leak. I would definitely pair her with US Agent (John Walker), as he is one of the Thunderbolts in the movie and he would also be more likely to be a Science class. As a second I could take O'Grady (Science or Tech) as an option. (And purely logically it shouldn't be Eidol, since these are champions dedicated to the movie premiere and I don't remember Kabam releasing such champions with their Orig champs)

    April. Yes, there has already been a dispute about April being a spider-month only in recent years and yet we wait for the Lizard every April... In short, considering the class completeness, we should have Mystic and Cosmic released in the remaining two months, April and March. But we also take into account that we should, in theory, release Eidol in the first half of the year.
    And judging by its abilities, as presented in this month's event quest: "Precious Metal", it converts energy into solid light projections that can mimic the body and abilities the one whose form the projection takes. And she also loves metals and is able to control them (she infected vibranium with her "perfection" in order to be able to control it). And she also calls these projections with his toys and like a puppeteer pulls their strings, so it looks like Eidol the puppeteer, she also puts on a show and happily watches its participants suffer and craves audience sympathy, (and yes, this is not Mojo haha):









    Of course, one could assume that the love of metals is seen as a Tech Eidol, but I think that the transformation and manipulation of energy into light constructs is more like a Cosmic Eidol (in any case in this case I think it's either Cosmic or Tech Eidol) And this Eidol can only come out in March/April or June (in general, it can also fit into the Tech villains vs mutants month, if she is of the Tech class)

    Now let's turn to the December EQ "Violent Delights":

    I assumed back in December that these attacks were consistent from January to March. In January, there was an attack on Wakanda and their Vibranium. In February, there was an attack on New Manhattan and, surprisingly, judging by the February champion leaks, we'll have Joaquin Torres and Arnim Zola, who are totally New Manhattan/New York City. There is an attack on Asgard in March, judging by the attack on Odin's ravens. This is why (though not only because of this) I believe Ares will appear in March. Who can he go out with? If Eidol is a Cosmic class that doesn't come out in March AND at the same time there is no Mystic champion coming out in April/June (and I still remind you that I adhere to class completeness), then Mystic champion should come out with Ares and of course I will say – Morgan Le Fay.
    If Mystic does come out in one of the months following March in the first half of the year (or it will be the case when there is 1 class missing to class completeness), then with Ares I see Eidol (if he is Cosmic) or Cosmic Champion – I think it could be Moonstone or maybe Zeus or Athena (although she would probably also be a Skill class) BUT
    taking into account again possible hints about future events from the December EQ "Violent Delights", namely:

    DEFENDERS are atacking ASGARDIANS. I will assume that we are also talking about March. What Defenders could join Ares? Blue Marvel (Science), Wonder Man (Science), and I think Hellstrom (Mystic), at least they all have personal scores to settle with Ares.
    And the army of Spider-Men fight each other (obviously these are the events of April) if he also remains a spider month. In general, the context is similar to the events of 2022, when the army of Spider-men began to feud with each other over the burned Web of Fate and Destiny. And this month we have two Spider-Man villains, Shocker and Sandman. Perhaps the events of April will be somewhat similar to that Spider-Mans feud and then we get two spiderman villains, one of which, if Mystic is not the one with Ares, should be Mystic champ (even if Eidol is released in April instead of March) well, in general from the mystics and the spiderman villain i cant remember anyone except Demogoblin, although I don't think it will come out before Hobgoblin. And I hope that I will still see the Black Tarantula in April and I don't think that the Lizard will appear this year, yeah...

    Also, regarding Eidols, Eidols-puppeteer said one interesting thing, which traces the influence/abilities of Eidols, although maybe I'm driving myself crazy, lol:

    As far as I can tell, the Puppeteer Eidol is watching the chaos (calling it a scene). Isophyne is causing this chaos due to the ISO crystals effect on the champions, spreading anger and hate. Fear... There are two options: either it is meant in general about the fear that the Eidols sowed, or the third (or last Eidol) will spread fear himself, like Serpent

    And also, in September, when the Orochi animation was shown, at first I thought that Kabam was developing a Marrow. Seriously, her animation of pulling out spikes on her back definitely reminded me of Marrow's abilities.


    Overall, considering all of this, I think we'll get Puppeteer's Eidol in March or April (if it comes out in the first half of the year), and here's what my "blind" prediction for the first half of the year looks like:
    March: Ares (Skill) and Eidol (Cosmic) or Morgan Le Fay (Mystic) or Blue Marvel (Science), or Wonder man (Science) and I still don't think it will be Hellstrom.
    April: Black Tarantula(Skill)/Hobgoblin(Tech)/Lizard (Science) and Eidol (cosmic) or If it's a spider-man, it's Jessica Drew (Science)
    May: Yelena Belova (Skill) and Agent US (Science)
    June: Bastion (Tech) and Mystique/Jean Grey (Mutations)
    And based on this assumption, it looks like we won't have enough Mystic Champion classes to be complete, or maybe Kabam will surprise us and the completeness will be maintained, we'll see.

    Thank you for your thorough thoughts on the matter! I like even listing at the end the potential pairings.
  • WednesdayLengthWednesdayLength Member Posts: 1,998 ★★★★

    EdisonLaw said:

    Buttehrs said:

    And what exactly makes you think lizard is this year? It's been 10 years and Hes still not in game. Don't get your hopes up.

    Maybe because April is a Spiderverse month and that there's a possibility he's coming?
    People always say this and it never happens lmao

    April 2024 - Prowler & Spider-Punk
    April 2023 - Shocker & Sandman
    April 2022 - Black Cat & Scorpion
    April 2021 - MROC Champions
    April 2020 - MROC Champions
    April 2019 - Annihilus & Human Torch
    April 2018 - Proxima Midnight & Corvus Glove
    April 2017 - Angela & King Groot
    April 2016 - Agent Venom & Red Hulk
    April 2015 - Ms. Marvel (Carol Danvers) & DD (original)

    As you can see since 2022 consisting we have gotten two spider-verse champions. I did look this up just so we can use evidence that is available and work from there. Enjoying this discussion as it stimulates thoughts of where we are moving in the contest and who may or may not come to the game.

    Sure in the last 3 years end gotten a spider verse event in April. That doesn't confirm lizard though
    Well, I know three out 10 doesn't seem to say much, but it seems they have been doing this as a habit, but I understand how you see it. Something also to consider is Kabam does do things in consistent pattern such as us getting 1 champion in December which was an another pattern that has been recently some they do. Should also mention in 2016 there was one spider-verse champion.

    We wait and add to our discussion as pieces of evidence come to light.

    Curious anyone think Bastion is coming this year and could he possibly come with Jean Grey if she is the champion who meets the synergy that Gentle has, Psychotherapy(I think she fills the synergy).
    I'm not denying that there's gonna likely be a spider verse event in April, I'm saying lizard isn't guaranteed to be part of it.

    I doubt Jean will be a main champion release based on the leaked model. Bastion seems likely though
  • WednesdayLengthWednesdayLength Member Posts: 1,998 ★★★★
    Xleb said:

    Okay, now my thoughts. Let's get started.

    Let's start with the fact that every half-year the Kabam try to maintain class completeness (just release 6 champions of different classes in a half-year) but sometimes it happened that only 1 class was missing for the half year.

    Based on recent leaks, we're supposed to have Joaquin Torres (Science) and Arnim Zola (Tech) coming out next month. Also, remember that Arnim Zola was teased in the 10th Anniversary trailer last month. Thus, in the first 2 months we already have 4 classes out of 6.
    Further, it was also mentioned in the leaks that Yelena Belova (Skill) is the May champion (I apologize for spreading leaks on the forum, but at the moment this is necessary to create a complete picture) and some month there will also be Jean Grey (who is also apparently a member of Gentle's "Psychotherapy" mystery synergy)
    We know that Ares will appear soon, but we don't know when and it is also likely that he is a participant in Count Nefaria's mystery synergy "Back from the Dead". Let's assume that Ares will actually have a Skill class, considering that he is literally the God of War. We also have someone with the mystery synergy Isophyne "get out of my dimension!!". Depending on how you look at this synergy, it could be a champion, which has its own dimension (for example Morgan Le Fay and Nightmare, who are both Mystic champs) or the one that Isophyne banishes from her dimension (BattleRealm), since the known participants of the synergy are very comical and annoying champions (Howard, Gwenpool and Spot), so I also consider the Impossible Man (Cosmic) and his name says it all or Slapstick (Science) to be similar annoying champions.
    Also from the trailer we have a hint of the appearance of Bastion and I am more than sure that it was not added for nothing, because Tyler knows a thing or two about hidden teasers (Of course I mean the same "OZT" in the language of the Elders in the codex of the Watcher. For those who don't know, OZT – Operation: Zero Tolerance, which has also already appeared in the game, for example as a Solo Objective in October 2022 on Omega Sentinel:


    For the last 2 years, June has been Tech villains vs. Mutants month. Let's say this year is no exception, in which case I'd guess Bastion will be released in June with someone who would really make a great pairing for him, Mystique or Jean Grey (if the second one doesn't end up in Sigil in one of the months) or be Armor.

    In May we have the movie Thunderbolts* coming out and we will get Yelena Belova according to the leak. I would definitely pair her with US Agent (John Walker), as he is one of the Thunderbolts in the movie and he would also be more likely to be a Science class. As a second I could take O'Grady (Science or Tech) as an option. (And purely logically it shouldn't be Eidol, since these are champions dedicated to the movie premiere and I don't remember Kabam releasing such champions with their Orig champs)

    April. Yes, there has already been a dispute about April being a spider-month only in recent years and yet we wait for the Lizard every April... In short, considering the class completeness, we should have Mystic and Cosmic released in the remaining two months, April and March. But we also take into account that we should, in theory, release Eidol in the first half of the year.
    And judging by its abilities, as presented in this month's event quest: "Precious Metal", it converts energy into solid light projections that can mimic the body and abilities the one whose form the projection takes. And she also loves metals and is able to control them (she infected vibranium with her "perfection" in order to be able to control it). And she also calls these projections with his toys and like a puppeteer pulls their strings, so it looks like Eidol the puppeteer, she also puts on a show and happily watches its participants suffer and craves audience sympathy, (and yes, this is not Mojo haha):









    Of course, one could assume that the love of metals is seen as a Tech Eidol, but I think that the transformation and manipulation of energy into light constructs is more like a Cosmic Eidol (in any case in this case I think it's either Cosmic or Tech Eidol) And this Eidol can only come out in March/April or June (in general, it can also fit into the Tech villains vs mutants month, if she is of the Tech class)

    Now let's turn to the December EQ "Violent Delights":

    I assumed back in December that these attacks were consistent from January to March. In January, there was an attack on Wakanda and their Vibranium. In February, there was an attack on New Manhattan and, surprisingly, judging by the February champion leaks, we'll have Joaquin Torres and Arnim Zola, who are totally New Manhattan/New York City. There is an attack on Asgard in March, judging by the attack on Odin's ravens. This is why (though not only because of this) I believe Ares will appear in March. Who can he go out with? If Eidol is a Cosmic class that doesn't come out in March AND at the same time there is no Mystic champion coming out in April/June (and I still remind you that I adhere to class completeness), then Mystic champion should come out with Ares and of course I will say – Morgan Le Fay.
    If Mystic does come out in one of the months following March in the first half of the year (or it will be the case when there is 1 class missing to class completeness), then with Ares I see Eidol (if he is Cosmic) or Cosmic Champion – I think it could be Moonstone or maybe Zeus or Athena (although she would probably also be a Skill class) BUT
    taking into account again possible hints about future events from the December EQ "Violent Delights", namely:

    DEFENDERS are atacking ASGARDIANS. I will assume that we are also talking about March. What Defenders could join Ares? Blue Marvel (Science), Wonder Man (Science), and I think Hellstrom (Mystic), at least they all have personal scores to settle with Ares.
    And the army of Spider-Men fight each other (obviously these are the events of April) if he also remains a spider month. In general, the context is similar to the events of 2022, when the army of Spider-men began to feud with each other over the burned Web of Fate and Destiny. And this month we have two Spider-Man villains, Shocker and Sandman. Perhaps the events of April will be somewhat similar to that Spider-Mans feud and then we get two spiderman villains, one of which, if Mystic is not the one with Ares, should be Mystic champ (even if Eidol is released in April instead of March) well, in general from the mystics and the spiderman villain i cant remember anyone except Demogoblin, although I don't think it will come out before Hobgoblin. And I hope that I will still see the Black Tarantula in April and I don't think that the Lizard will appear this year, yeah...

    Also, regarding Eidols, Eidols-puppeteer said one interesting thing, which traces the influence/abilities of Eidols, although maybe I'm driving myself crazy, lol:

    As far as I can tell, the Puppeteer Eidol is watching the chaos (calling it a scene). Isophyne is causing this chaos due to the ISO crystals effect on the champions, spreading anger and hate. Fear... There are two options: either it is meant in general about the fear that the Eidols sowed, or the third (or last Eidol) will spread fear himself, like Serpent

    And also, in September, when the Orochi animation was shown, at first I thought that Kabam was developing a Marrow. Seriously, her animation of pulling out spikes on her back definitely reminded me of Marrow's abilities.


    Overall, considering all of this, I think we'll get Puppeteer's Eidol in March or April (if it comes out in the first half of the year), and here's what my "blind" prediction for the first half of the year looks like:
    March: Ares (Skill) and Eidol (Cosmic) or Morgan Le Fay (Mystic) or Blue Marvel (Science), or Wonder man (Science) and I still don't think it will be Hellstrom.
    April: Black Tarantula(Skill)/Hobgoblin(Tech)/Lizard (Science) and Eidol (cosmic) or If it's a spider-man, it's Jessica Drew (Science)
    May: Yelena Belova (Skill) and Agent US (Science)
    June: Bastion (Tech) and Mystique/Jean Grey (Mutations)
    And based on this assumption, it looks like we won't have enough Mystic Champion classes to be complete, or maybe Kabam will surprise us and the completeness will be maintained, we'll see.

    I highly doubt Jean Grey would be a normal champion release based on her model, and no way we're getting mystique. We're also not getting black tarantula this year pretty much guaranteed. A lot of this feels sound though, I just think that the mutants we get are less likely to be huge name x men
  • XlebXleb Member Posts: 488 ★★
    edited January 18

    Xleb said:

    Okay, now my thoughts. Let's get started.

    Let's start with the fact that every half-year the Kabam try to maintain class completeness (just release 6 champions of different classes in a half-year) but sometimes it happened that only 1 class was missing for the half year.

    Based on recent leaks, we're supposed to have Joaquin Torres (Science) and Arnim Zola (Tech) coming out next month. Also, remember that Arnim Zola was teased in the 10th Anniversary trailer last month. Thus, in the first 2 months we already have 4 classes out of 6.
    Further, it was also mentioned in the leaks that Yelena Belova (Skill) is the May champion (I apologize for spreading leaks on the forum, but at the moment this is necessary to create a complete picture) and some month there will also be Jean Grey (who is also apparently a member of Gentle's "Psychotherapy" mystery synergy)
    We know that Ares will appear soon, but we don't know when and it is also likely that he is a participant in Count Nefaria's mystery synergy "Back from the Dead". Let's assume that Ares will actually have a Skill class, considering that he is literally the God of War. We also have someone with the mystery synergy Isophyne "get out of my dimension!!". Depending on how you look at this synergy, it could be a champion, which has its own dimension (for example Morgan Le Fay and Nightmare, who are both Mystic champs) or the one that Isophyne banishes from her dimension (BattleRealm), since the known participants of the synergy are very comical and annoying champions (Howard, Gwenpool and Spot), so I also consider the Impossible Man (Cosmic) and his name says it all or Slapstick (Science) to be similar annoying champions.
    Also from the trailer we have a hint of the appearance of Bastion and I am more than sure that it was not added for nothing, because Tyler knows a thing or two about hidden teasers (Of course I mean the same "OZT" in the language of the Elders in the codex of the Watcher. For those who don't know, OZT – Operation: Zero Tolerance, which has also already appeared in the game, for example as a Solo Objective in October 2022 on Omega Sentinel:


    For the last 2 years, June has been Tech villains vs. Mutants month. Let's say this year is no exception, in which case I'd guess Bastion will be released in June with someone who would really make a great pairing for him, Mystique or Jean Grey (if the second one doesn't end up in Sigil in one of the months) or be Armor.

    In May we have the movie Thunderbolts* coming out and we will get Yelena Belova according to the leak. I would definitely pair her with US Agent (John Walker), as he is one of the Thunderbolts in the movie and he would also be more likely to be a Science class. As a second I could take O'Grady (Science or Tech) as an option. (And purely logically it shouldn't be Eidol, since these are champions dedicated to the movie premiere and I don't remember Kabam releasing such champions with their Orig champs)

    April. Yes, there has already been a dispute about April being a spider-month only in recent years and yet we wait for the Lizard every April... In short, considering the class completeness, we should have Mystic and Cosmic released in the remaining two months, April and March. But we also take into account that we should, in theory, release Eidol in the first half of the year.
    And judging by its abilities, as presented in this month's event quest: "Precious Metal", it converts energy into solid light projections that can mimic the body and abilities the one whose form the projection takes. And she also loves metals and is able to control them (she infected vibranium with her "perfection" in order to be able to control it). And she also calls these projections with his toys and like a puppeteer pulls their strings, so it looks like Eidol the puppeteer, she also puts on a show and happily watches its participants suffer and craves audience sympathy, (and yes, this is not Mojo haha):









    Of course, one could assume that the love of metals is seen as a Tech Eidol, but I think that the transformation and manipulation of energy into light constructs is more like a Cosmic Eidol (in any case in this case I think it's either Cosmic or Tech Eidol) And this Eidol can only come out in March/April or June (in general, it can also fit into the Tech villains vs mutants month, if she is of the Tech class)

    Now let's turn to the December EQ "Violent Delights":

    I assumed back in December that these attacks were consistent from January to March. In January, there was an attack on Wakanda and their Vibranium. In February, there was an attack on New Manhattan and, surprisingly, judging by the February champion leaks, we'll have Joaquin Torres and Arnim Zola, who are totally New Manhattan/New York City. There is an attack on Asgard in March, judging by the attack on Odin's ravens. This is why (though not only because of this) I believe Ares will appear in March. Who can he go out with? If Eidol is a Cosmic class that doesn't come out in March AND at the same time there is no Mystic champion coming out in April/June (and I still remind you that I adhere to class completeness), then Mystic champion should come out with Ares and of course I will say – Morgan Le Fay.
    If Mystic does come out in one of the months following March in the first half of the year (or it will be the case when there is 1 class missing to class completeness), then with Ares I see Eidol (if he is Cosmic) or Cosmic Champion – I think it could be Moonstone or maybe Zeus or Athena (although she would probably also be a Skill class) BUT
    taking into account again possible hints about future events from the December EQ "Violent Delights", namely:

    DEFENDERS are atacking ASGARDIANS. I will assume that we are also talking about March. What Defenders could join Ares? Blue Marvel (Science), Wonder Man (Science), and I think Hellstrom (Mystic), at least they all have personal scores to settle with Ares.
    And the army of Spider-Men fight each other (obviously these are the events of April) if he also remains a spider month. In general, the context is similar to the events of 2022, when the army of Spider-men began to feud with each other over the burned Web of Fate and Destiny. And this month we have two Spider-Man villains, Shocker and Sandman. Perhaps the events of April will be somewhat similar to that Spider-Mans feud and then we get two spiderman villains, one of which, if Mystic is not the one with Ares, should be Mystic champ (even if Eidol is released in April instead of March) well, in general from the mystics and the spiderman villain i cant remember anyone except Demogoblin, although I don't think it will come out before Hobgoblin. And I hope that I will still see the Black Tarantula in April and I don't think that the Lizard will appear this year, yeah...

    Also, regarding Eidols, Eidols-puppeteer said one interesting thing, which traces the influence/abilities of Eidols, although maybe I'm driving myself crazy, lol:

    As far as I can tell, the Puppeteer Eidol is watching the chaos (calling it a scene). Isophyne is causing this chaos due to the ISO crystals effect on the champions, spreading anger and hate. Fear... There are two options: either it is meant in general about the fear that the Eidols sowed, or the third (or last Eidol) will spread fear himself, like Serpent

    And also, in September, when the Orochi animation was shown, at first I thought that Kabam was developing a Marrow. Seriously, her animation of pulling out spikes on her back definitely reminded me of Marrow's abilities.


    Overall, considering all of this, I think we'll get Puppeteer's Eidol in March or April (if it comes out in the first half of the year), and here's what my "blind" prediction for the first half of the year looks like:
    March: Ares (Skill) and Eidol (Cosmic) or Morgan Le Fay (Mystic) or Blue Marvel (Science), or Wonder man (Science) and I still don't think it will be Hellstrom.
    April: Black Tarantula(Skill)/Hobgoblin(Tech)/Lizard (Science) and Eidol (cosmic) or If it's a spider-man, it's Jessica Drew (Science)
    May: Yelena Belova (Skill) and Agent US (Science)
    June: Bastion (Tech) and Mystique/Jean Grey (Mutations)
    And based on this assumption, it looks like we won't have enough Mystic Champion classes to be complete, or maybe Kabam will surprise us and the completeness will be maintained, we'll see.

    I highly doubt Jean Grey would be a normal champion release based on her model, and no way we're getting mystique. We're also not getting black tarantula this year pretty much guaranteed. A lot of this feels sound though, I just think that the mutants we get are less likely to be huge name x men
    Maybe. Anyway, we'll probably have a map of all the classes for this year in about a week and there should be a Roadmap in livestream on January 31st, so it's not that far away.
  • BowTieJohnBowTieJohn Member Posts: 2,432 ★★★★

    EdisonLaw said:

    Buttehrs said:

    And what exactly makes you think lizard is this year? It's been 10 years and Hes still not in game. Don't get your hopes up.

    Maybe because April is a Spiderverse month and that there's a possibility he's coming?
    People always say this and it never happens lmao

    April 2024 - Prowler & Spider-Punk
    April 2023 - Shocker & Sandman
    April 2022 - Black Cat & Scorpion
    April 2021 - MROC Champions
    April 2020 - MROC Champions
    April 2019 - Annihilus & Human Torch
    April 2018 - Proxima Midnight & Corvus Glove
    April 2017 - Angela & King Groot
    April 2016 - Agent Venom & Red Hulk
    April 2015 - Ms. Marvel (Carol Danvers) & DD (original)

    As you can see since 2022 consisting we have gotten two spider-verse champions. I did look this up just so we can use evidence that is available and work from there. Enjoying this discussion as it stimulates thoughts of where we are moving in the contest and who may or may not come to the game.

    Sure in the last 3 years end gotten a spider verse event in April. That doesn't confirm lizard though
    Well, I know three out 10 doesn't seem to say much, but it seems they have been doing this as a habit, but I understand how you see it. Something also to consider is Kabam does do things in consistent pattern such as us getting 1 champion in December which was an another pattern that has been recently some they do. Should also mention in 2016 there was one spider-verse champion.

    We wait and add to our discussion as pieces of evidence come to light.

    Curious anyone think Bastion is coming this year and could he possibly come with Jean Grey if she is the champion who meets the synergy that Gentle has, Psychotherapy(I think she fills the synergy).
    I'm not denying that there's gonna likely be a spider verse event in April, I'm saying lizard isn't guaranteed to be part of it.

    I doubt Jean will be a main champion release based on the leaked model. Bastion seems likely though
    Understood and good point. I was thinking about that. The model is not the classic or even popular model of Jean Grey. Most people I'm guessing myself included think of either or both the Jean Grey from the older X-Men comics or the character design from the X-Men 90's cartoon and comics around that time.

    I'm enjoying these discussions we are having. It is beneficial as we think through the remainder of 2025.
  • BowTieJohnBowTieJohn Member Posts: 2,432 ★★★★
    Xleb said:

    Xleb said:

    Okay, now my thoughts. Let's get started.

    Let's start with the fact that every half-year the Kabam try to maintain class completeness (just release 6 champions of different classes in a half-year) but sometimes it happened that only 1 class was missing for the half year.

    Based on recent leaks, we're supposed to have Joaquin Torres (Science) and Arnim Zola (Tech) coming out next month. Also, remember that Arnim Zola was teased in the 10th Anniversary trailer last month. Thus, in the first 2 months we already have 4 classes out of 6.
    Further, it was also mentioned in the leaks that Yelena Belova (Skill) is the May champion (I apologize for spreading leaks on the forum, but at the moment this is necessary to create a complete picture) and some month there will also be Jean Grey (who is also apparently a member of Gentle's "Psychotherapy" mystery synergy)
    We know that Ares will appear soon, but we don't know when and it is also likely that he is a participant in Count Nefaria's mystery synergy "Back from the Dead". Let's assume that Ares will actually have a Skill class, considering that he is literally the God of War. We also have someone with the mystery synergy Isophyne "get out of my dimension!!". Depending on how you look at this synergy, it could be a champion, which has its own dimension (for example Morgan Le Fay and Nightmare, who are both Mystic champs) or the one that Isophyne banishes from her dimension (BattleRealm), since the known participants of the synergy are very comical and annoying champions (Howard, Gwenpool and Spot), so I also consider the Impossible Man (Cosmic) and his name says it all or Slapstick (Science) to be similar annoying champions.
    Also from the trailer we have a hint of the appearance of Bastion and I am more than sure that it was not added for nothing, because Tyler knows a thing or two about hidden teasers (Of course I mean the same "OZT" in the language of the Elders in the codex of the Watcher. For those who don't know, OZT – Operation: Zero Tolerance, which has also already appeared in the game, for example as a Solo Objective in October 2022 on Omega Sentinel:


    For the last 2 years, June has been Tech villains vs. Mutants month. Let's say this year is no exception, in which case I'd guess Bastion will be released in June with someone who would really make a great pairing for him, Mystique or Jean Grey (if the second one doesn't end up in Sigil in one of the months) or be Armor.

    In May we have the movie Thunderbolts* coming out and we will get Yelena Belova according to the leak. I would definitely pair her with US Agent (John Walker), as he is one of the Thunderbolts in the movie and he would also be more likely to be a Science class. As a second I could take O'Grady (Science or Tech) as an option. (And purely logically it shouldn't be Eidol, since these are champions dedicated to the movie premiere and I don't remember Kabam releasing such champions with their Orig champs)

    April. Yes, there has already been a dispute about April being a spider-month only in recent years and yet we wait for the Lizard every April... In short, considering the class completeness, we should have Mystic and Cosmic released in the remaining two months, April and March. But we also take into account that we should, in theory, release Eidol in the first half of the year.
    And judging by its abilities, as presented in this month's event quest: "Precious Metal", it converts energy into solid light projections that can mimic the body and abilities the one whose form the projection takes. And she also loves metals and is able to control them (she infected vibranium with her "perfection" in order to be able to control it). And she also calls these projections with his toys and like a puppeteer pulls their strings, so it looks like Eidol the puppeteer, she also puts on a show and happily watches its participants suffer and craves audience sympathy, (and yes, this is not Mojo haha):









    Of course, one could assume that the love of metals is seen as a Tech Eidol, but I think that the transformation and manipulation of energy into light constructs is more like a Cosmic Eidol (in any case in this case I think it's either Cosmic or Tech Eidol) And this Eidol can only come out in March/April or June (in general, it can also fit into the Tech villains vs mutants month, if she is of the Tech class)

    Now let's turn to the December EQ "Violent Delights":

    I assumed back in December that these attacks were consistent from January to March. In January, there was an attack on Wakanda and their Vibranium. In February, there was an attack on New Manhattan and, surprisingly, judging by the February champion leaks, we'll have Joaquin Torres and Arnim Zola, who are totally New Manhattan/New York City. There is an attack on Asgard in March, judging by the attack on Odin's ravens. This is why (though not only because of this) I believe Ares will appear in March. Who can he go out with? If Eidol is a Cosmic class that doesn't come out in March AND at the same time there is no Mystic champion coming out in April/June (and I still remind you that I adhere to class completeness), then Mystic champion should come out with Ares and of course I will say – Morgan Le Fay.
    If Mystic does come out in one of the months following March in the first half of the year (or it will be the case when there is 1 class missing to class completeness), then with Ares I see Eidol (if he is Cosmic) or Cosmic Champion – I think it could be Moonstone or maybe Zeus or Athena (although she would probably also be a Skill class) BUT
    taking into account again possible hints about future events from the December EQ "Violent Delights", namely:

    DEFENDERS are atacking ASGARDIANS. I will assume that we are also talking about March. What Defenders could join Ares? Blue Marvel (Science), Wonder Man (Science), and I think Hellstrom (Mystic), at least they all have personal scores to settle with Ares.
    And the army of Spider-Men fight each other (obviously these are the events of April) if he also remains a spider month. In general, the context is similar to the events of 2022, when the army of Spider-men began to feud with each other over the burned Web of Fate and Destiny. And this month we have two Spider-Man villains, Shocker and Sandman. Perhaps the events of April will be somewhat similar to that Spider-Mans feud and then we get two spiderman villains, one of which, if Mystic is not the one with Ares, should be Mystic champ (even if Eidol is released in April instead of March) well, in general from the mystics and the spiderman villain i cant remember anyone except Demogoblin, although I don't think it will come out before Hobgoblin. And I hope that I will still see the Black Tarantula in April and I don't think that the Lizard will appear this year, yeah...

    Also, regarding Eidols, Eidols-puppeteer said one interesting thing, which traces the influence/abilities of Eidols, although maybe I'm driving myself crazy, lol:

    As far as I can tell, the Puppeteer Eidol is watching the chaos (calling it a scene). Isophyne is causing this chaos due to the ISO crystals effect on the champions, spreading anger and hate. Fear... There are two options: either it is meant in general about the fear that the Eidols sowed, or the third (or last Eidol) will spread fear himself, like Serpent

    And also, in September, when the Orochi animation was shown, at first I thought that Kabam was developing a Marrow. Seriously, her animation of pulling out spikes on her back definitely reminded me of Marrow's abilities.


    Overall, considering all of this, I think we'll get Puppeteer's Eidol in March or April (if it comes out in the first half of the year), and here's what my "blind" prediction for the first half of the year looks like:
    March: Ares (Skill) and Eidol (Cosmic) or Morgan Le Fay (Mystic) or Blue Marvel (Science), or Wonder man (Science) and I still don't think it will be Hellstrom.
    April: Black Tarantula(Skill)/Hobgoblin(Tech)/Lizard (Science) and Eidol (cosmic) or If it's a spider-man, it's Jessica Drew (Science)
    May: Yelena Belova (Skill) and Agent US (Science)
    June: Bastion (Tech) and Mystique/Jean Grey (Mutations)
    And based on this assumption, it looks like we won't have enough Mystic Champion classes to be complete, or maybe Kabam will surprise us and the completeness will be maintained, we'll see.

    I highly doubt Jean Grey would be a normal champion release based on her model, and no way we're getting mystique. We're also not getting black tarantula this year pretty much guaranteed. A lot of this feels sound though, I just think that the mutants we get are less likely to be huge name x men
    Maybe. Anyway, we'll probably have a map of all the classes for this year in about a week and there should be a Roadmap in livestream on January 31st, so it's not that far away.
    I do hope the livestream whenever the next one will be, does include the narrative road map. I'm excited to see the teasing of what is on the horizon for the contest.
  • ahmynutsahmynuts Member Posts: 7,955 ★★★★★
    Xleb said:

    Xleb said:

    Okay, now my thoughts. Let's get started.

    Let's start with the fact that every half-year the Kabam try to maintain class completeness (just release 6 champions of different classes in a half-year) but sometimes it happened that only 1 class was missing for the half year.

    Based on recent leaks, we're supposed to have Joaquin Torres (Science) and Arnim Zola (Tech) coming out next month. Also, remember that Arnim Zola was teased in the 10th Anniversary trailer last month. Thus, in the first 2 months we already have 4 classes out of 6.
    Further, it was also mentioned in the leaks that Yelena Belova (Skill) is the May champion (I apologize for spreading leaks on the forum, but at the moment this is necessary to create a complete picture) and some month there will also be Jean Grey (who is also apparently a member of Gentle's "Psychotherapy" mystery synergy)
    We know that Ares will appear soon, but we don't know when and it is also likely that he is a participant in Count Nefaria's mystery synergy "Back from the Dead". Let's assume that Ares will actually have a Skill class, considering that he is literally the God of War. We also have someone with the mystery synergy Isophyne "get out of my dimension!!". Depending on how you look at this synergy, it could be a champion, which has its own dimension (for example Morgan Le Fay and Nightmare, who are both Mystic champs) or the one that Isophyne banishes from her dimension (BattleRealm), since the known participants of the synergy are very comical and annoying champions (Howard, Gwenpool and Spot), so I also consider the Impossible Man (Cosmic) and his name says it all or Slapstick (Science) to be similar annoying champions.
    Also from the trailer we have a hint of the appearance of Bastion and I am more than sure that it was not added for nothing, because Tyler knows a thing or two about hidden teasers (Of course I mean the same "OZT" in the language of the Elders in the codex of the Watcher. For those who don't know, OZT – Operation: Zero Tolerance, which has also already appeared in the game, for example as a Solo Objective in October 2022 on Omega Sentinel:


    For the last 2 years, June has been Tech villains vs. Mutants month. Let's say this year is no exception, in which case I'd guess Bastion will be released in June with someone who would really make a great pairing for him, Mystique or Jean Grey (if the second one doesn't end up in Sigil in one of the months) or be Armor.

    In May we have the movie Thunderbolts* coming out and we will get Yelena Belova according to the leak. I would definitely pair her with US Agent (John Walker), as he is one of the Thunderbolts in the movie and he would also be more likely to be a Science class. As a second I could take O'Grady (Science or Tech) as an option. (And purely logically it shouldn't be Eidol, since these are champions dedicated to the movie premiere and I don't remember Kabam releasing such champions with their Orig champs)

    April. Yes, there has already been a dispute about April being a spider-month only in recent years and yet we wait for the Lizard every April... In short, considering the class completeness, we should have Mystic and Cosmic released in the remaining two months, April and March. But we also take into account that we should, in theory, release Eidol in the first half of the year.
    And judging by its abilities, as presented in this month's event quest: "Precious Metal", it converts energy into solid light projections that can mimic the body and abilities the one whose form the projection takes. And she also loves metals and is able to control them (she infected vibranium with her "perfection" in order to be able to control it). And she also calls these projections with his toys and like a puppeteer pulls their strings, so it looks like Eidol the puppeteer, she also puts on a show and happily watches its participants suffer and craves audience sympathy, (and yes, this is not Mojo haha):









    Of course, one could assume that the love of metals is seen as a Tech Eidol, but I think that the transformation and manipulation of energy into light constructs is more like a Cosmic Eidol (in any case in this case I think it's either Cosmic or Tech Eidol) And this Eidol can only come out in March/April or June (in general, it can also fit into the Tech villains vs mutants month, if she is of the Tech class)

    Now let's turn to the December EQ "Violent Delights":

    I assumed back in December that these attacks were consistent from January to March. In January, there was an attack on Wakanda and their Vibranium. In February, there was an attack on New Manhattan and, surprisingly, judging by the February champion leaks, we'll have Joaquin Torres and Arnim Zola, who are totally New Manhattan/New York City. There is an attack on Asgard in March, judging by the attack on Odin's ravens. This is why (though not only because of this) I believe Ares will appear in March. Who can he go out with? If Eidol is a Cosmic class that doesn't come out in March AND at the same time there is no Mystic champion coming out in April/June (and I still remind you that I adhere to class completeness), then Mystic champion should come out with Ares and of course I will say – Morgan Le Fay.
    If Mystic does come out in one of the months following March in the first half of the year (or it will be the case when there is 1 class missing to class completeness), then with Ares I see Eidol (if he is Cosmic) or Cosmic Champion – I think it could be Moonstone or maybe Zeus or Athena (although she would probably also be a Skill class) BUT
    taking into account again possible hints about future events from the December EQ "Violent Delights", namely:

    DEFENDERS are atacking ASGARDIANS. I will assume that we are also talking about March. What Defenders could join Ares? Blue Marvel (Science), Wonder Man (Science), and I think Hellstrom (Mystic), at least they all have personal scores to settle with Ares.
    And the army of Spider-Men fight each other (obviously these are the events of April) if he also remains a spider month. In general, the context is similar to the events of 2022, when the army of Spider-men began to feud with each other over the burned Web of Fate and Destiny. And this month we have two Spider-Man villains, Shocker and Sandman. Perhaps the events of April will be somewhat similar to that Spider-Mans feud and then we get two spiderman villains, one of which, if Mystic is not the one with Ares, should be Mystic champ (even if Eidol is released in April instead of March) well, in general from the mystics and the spiderman villain i cant remember anyone except Demogoblin, although I don't think it will come out before Hobgoblin. And I hope that I will still see the Black Tarantula in April and I don't think that the Lizard will appear this year, yeah...

    Also, regarding Eidols, Eidols-puppeteer said one interesting thing, which traces the influence/abilities of Eidols, although maybe I'm driving myself crazy, lol:

    As far as I can tell, the Puppeteer Eidol is watching the chaos (calling it a scene). Isophyne is causing this chaos due to the ISO crystals effect on the champions, spreading anger and hate. Fear... There are two options: either it is meant in general about the fear that the Eidols sowed, or the third (or last Eidol) will spread fear himself, like Serpent

    And also, in September, when the Orochi animation was shown, at first I thought that Kabam was developing a Marrow. Seriously, her animation of pulling out spikes on her back definitely reminded me of Marrow's abilities.


    Overall, considering all of this, I think we'll get Puppeteer's Eidol in March or April (if it comes out in the first half of the year), and here's what my "blind" prediction for the first half of the year looks like:
    March: Ares (Skill) and Eidol (Cosmic) or Morgan Le Fay (Mystic) or Blue Marvel (Science), or Wonder man (Science) and I still don't think it will be Hellstrom.
    April: Black Tarantula(Skill)/Hobgoblin(Tech)/Lizard (Science) and Eidol (cosmic) or If it's a spider-man, it's Jessica Drew (Science)
    May: Yelena Belova (Skill) and Agent US (Science)
    June: Bastion (Tech) and Mystique/Jean Grey (Mutations)
    And based on this assumption, it looks like we won't have enough Mystic Champion classes to be complete, or maybe Kabam will surprise us and the completeness will be maintained, we'll see.

    I highly doubt Jean Grey would be a normal champion release based on her model, and no way we're getting mystique. We're also not getting black tarantula this year pretty much guaranteed. A lot of this feels sound though, I just think that the mutants we get are less likely to be huge name x men
    Maybe. Anyway, we'll probably have a map of all the classes for this year in about a week and there should be a Roadmap in livestream on January 31st, so it's not that far away.
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  • WednesdayLengthWednesdayLength Member Posts: 1,998 ★★★★

    EdisonLaw said:

    Buttehrs said:

    And what exactly makes you think lizard is this year? It's been 10 years and Hes still not in game. Don't get your hopes up.

    Maybe because April is a Spiderverse month and that there's a possibility he's coming?
    People always say this and it never happens lmao

    April 2024 - Prowler & Spider-Punk
    April 2023 - Shocker & Sandman
    April 2022 - Black Cat & Scorpion
    April 2021 - MROC Champions
    April 2020 - MROC Champions
    April 2019 - Annihilus & Human Torch
    April 2018 - Proxima Midnight & Corvus Glove
    April 2017 - Angela & King Groot
    April 2016 - Agent Venom & Red Hulk
    April 2015 - Ms. Marvel (Carol Danvers) & DD (original)

    As you can see since 2022 consisting we have gotten two spider-verse champions. I did look this up just so we can use evidence that is available and work from there. Enjoying this discussion as it stimulates thoughts of where we are moving in the contest and who may or may not come to the game.

    Sure in the last 3 years end gotten a spider verse event in April. That doesn't confirm lizard though
    Well, I know three out 10 doesn't seem to say much, but it seems they have been doing this as a habit, but I understand how you see it. Something also to consider is Kabam does do things in consistent pattern such as us getting 1 champion in December which was an another pattern that has been recently some they do. Should also mention in 2016 there was one spider-verse champion.

    We wait and add to our discussion as pieces of evidence come to light.

    Curious anyone think Bastion is coming this year and could he possibly come with Jean Grey if she is the champion who meets the synergy that Gentle has, Psychotherapy(I think she fills the synergy).
    I'm not denying that there's gonna likely be a spider verse event in April, I'm saying lizard isn't guaranteed to be part of it.

    I doubt Jean will be a main champion release based on the leaked model. Bastion seems likely though
    Understood and good point. I was thinking about that. The model is not the classic or even popular model of Jean Grey. Most people I'm guessing myself included think of either or both the Jean Grey from the older X-Men comics or the character design from the X-Men 90's cartoon and comics around that time.

    I'm enjoying these discussions we are having. It is beneficial as we think through the remainder of 2025.
    It being the popular model isn't really relevant since the point is that the model we've seen is an update of the phoenix model.
  • BowTieJohnBowTieJohn Member Posts: 2,432 ★★★★
    Understood, but it would be nice to get a Jean Grey that matches Cyclops Blue Team. A little nostalgia from the X-Men 90's animated series.
  • UsagicassidyUsagicassidy Member Posts: 1,611 ★★★★
    edited January 20

    Thunderbolts* and Fantastic Four: First Steps are likely to get tie in events in May and July for their release dates.

    I don't think it's likely. This seems to not be a trend at all anymore.

    Spider Man Far From Home, Thor Love and Thunder, Wakanda Forever, Deadpool & Wolverine, and Guardians 3 all did not have any champions released along with them.

    In the past few years, from what I can recall, Photon was the only release that coincided with a (planned) release date, since she came out August '23 and The Marvels once was slated to come out in. July '23 before being moved to November. Cassie Lang also came out around Quantimania. Before that, it was Eternals in 2021.

    Same goes for people thinking there will be another Daredevil-related character in March, I wouldn't hold my breath. Out of EVERY single MCU show so far, only Falcon came out when his show came out.
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